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Name of Character: Baron Nikolai Robert Freiherr von Ungern-Sternberg Character ID: didn't have the chance to check wills alive SteamID:76561199579974825 Your Discord ID:1163886299388858429 Date of PK: Monday June 15th 1990 Reason for PK: killed by a random guy on a rooftop will walking on the street under Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: the reason is rdm, I had no affiliation with the guy and killed for no apperant reason If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: here you go https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mUZUL7i8E_iG0gut6?invite=cr-MSxaMlUsMzIyMDc2MjU2&v=40

Hey I just want to tell you to read my appeal again, I've said that I didn't have intention to RP at first but I met a guy from Supreme Team that's from Serbia and he explained to me everything what to do and what not to do and I've listened to him and started playing like every other person, and our friend Mare has the grudge against Kosher Nostra, my char isn't PKed by the Jews it was PKed by Cops because I didn't care about the char anymore I wanted it deleted so I could join Supreme. And we really do apologize and we can tell you that this stuff won't happen again.

Name of Faction: Cartel de Caballero Number of Members (Minimum of 5): 42 Type Of Faction (Family, Triad, Street Gang, etc): Cartel Ethnic Background (ex: Italian, Greek, African American, Irish, etc): Cuban/Hispanic Name of Character running the faction: Carlos Caballero Your Discord # (ex: gamer#4210): vaffancul Your SteamID: 76561199153198440 Your Server playtime: 2mo 4w 2d Do you acknowledge and agree to all faction rules as detailed on the server rules page? (Yes/No): Yes Do you acknowledge that your faction discord will be owned by us? (Yes/No): Yes Provide an example of the unique Roleplay your faction will bring to the server/what type of roleplay we can expect from your faction (Images/Videos Preferred): We're aiming to heavily incorporate Hispanic culture into our RP by running several food trucks that sell traditional Cuban food. In the future, we plan to get our own Cuban cigars added which ties into our backstory as former tobacco smugglers. We also plan to eventually run a Cuban/Hispanic style restaurant. Most cartels uphold a reputation for their public acts of violence, where we are going to take it to a more hidden and professional place. Instead of dressing like some thugs, our guys will present themselves as serious, legitimate businessmen. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qQUfVFqBn32N0XOuniL-DmwURz9SmQsWEzpKL7C93g/edit?usp=sharing Provide examples or event ideas to promote activity within your faction and keep people interested. (Reference your unique RP from the question above): To keep people interested, we will host block party style fiestas where our (or other peoples) food trucks can be utilized. We plan on frequently hosting events on the weekend where we take many of our members to eat/party at other factions establishments, giving multiple factions opportunity to RP. Organization Backstory (Min. of 250+ Words & any images): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nQXTAeW0T0zrhx-Nmee8hDEQmhmYjxNHiOH4GhwKbQ8/edit?usp=sharing

Misuse of the term failmug. A fail mug is that the circumstances surrounding what is needed to perform a valid mug must be met. If the conditions are not met then the initiation of the mug is fail and by nature a violation. However, sometimes people use the term 'Failmug' to refer to whenever a mug goes wrong and the muggers 'fails' their objective. (Mugging) It's like people confusing LTARP and LTAP. It's all terminology based.

no? Its basic logic animation gets interrupted boom body disappears

What dingus said, i'll just take the 30 years thank you very much and never talk to me again

I agree with Revamped. Sure, probation and parole may look appealing on paper, but at the end of the day you are making more players do more work for an outcome that may not be worth that time or effort. “Hello I’m in jail for 30 minutes, can I be released on parole after 10 minutes?” “Sure, but we have to schedule weekly checkups to make sure you’re doing good otherwise we’ll send you back to prison for maybe 40 minutes.” At that point just sit there for the full 30 minutes and get some lunch or dinner or take a shit. However, that isn’t to say that I’m against other sentencing alternatives in general. We are actually working on a Bill for exactly that. The difference is these alternatives will be considered and imposed by a judge (already their job!) and probably won’t have any lingering work to do afterwards. There are lots of technical and small details to consider, especially reworking the entire “reoffenders clause”, but that’s the general gist of it.

Hi This is actually your 8th overall LTARP offense, which is honestly impressive and how you ended up with only 3d on your ban, I don't know - lucky! Jennay is correct, you left to avoid the situation. You were baited by Detectives into turning up to a phony hit/gun deal, and upon realizing this you disconnected. This is blatantly Leaving To Avoid Roleplay. Furthermore, the rules state: that the "majority of the time common sense applies. Do not try to look for loopholes in the rules." - This is one of those cases. 15. Do not LTAP/LTARP. If you initiate an RP situation or are in an Admin sit you may be punished if you decide to leave the game/switch characters to avoid punishment/roleplay - as you can see LTARP is a much more general rule than you are trying to imply. Please read over the Server Rules properly before returning to the server. Have a good one.

Hi banning admin here- "I left BEFORE anything could have happened" You're admitting to leave to avoid something happening. That is LTARP which you know a lot about since you've been banned for it before. You where doing something illegal, you go to meet up with someone to do something illegal, you see the person that you're meeting is a detective so you disconnect to avoid any roleplay consequences. Good Luck.

what this command do is force the server to send a full update, your clothes are client side models idk what the alt e thing does, so idk what its doing to the client side models but looking at gamemodes\mafia_roleplay\plugins\bonemerge\cl_bonemerge.lua, it looks like PLUGIN:FullUpdate() is something that should be called after standing up also if you look at line 508, it's called every 60s, so maybe try redoing the bug, wait at least 60 seconds and see if it gets fixed what the fuck are you saying

Whoever edited this shit actually has brain damage.

Hilarious

Did you just AI reply to me

Mechanical standpoint it appears to be a end animation bug. It happens when a player is interrupted with sudden movement such as constant sitting down and getting up, car being removed, falling over hence why record 1 stop might stop it.

+1 free bro everyone can change especially in 3 years, just needs to be watched or encouraged to be positive by the people around him in his fac or the friends he still has here. we've definitely given worse people more chances

As a cop main, and someone who used to as a detective, before the uniform policy change. It was overpowered. I think the detectives should continue wearing traffic uniform. The guy who made this forum post already retired from the NYPD and lost interest. Deny this anyway. Boom roasted made the right call to restrict detectives. This is MAFIA RP, not cop rp. We are already given larger privileges. Burns and the detectives can suck up and wear their traffic uniforms. If they wanna go PC, then have an operation ready. Ok!

Or counter point, learn like everyone else and roleplay?

Having your gun off safety and pointed at somebody with clear intent to use it is not an idle threat (especially after your friend dying) Do you think he took it off safety and pointed it because it looked cool? Or he was going to give us a strongly worded message on why that was wrong? Yeah come on don't be retarded, he was going to try and kill us lol.

They are my Serbian brothers, they have actually messaged me asking me about conflict their 3rd friend Mare said but I wasn't home at that time to respond, after I came home and I found out I called them on Discord and they explained everything that the 3rd guy that was in Kosher lied about a war or conflict idk and when he shoot they shoot too. I can assure you that they won't do such a thing again give them another chance if they do it which I am sure they won't don't ever give them a chance again appealing won't work for them anymore. +1

+1 I've known Sosa for around 3 years from various different communities, he was actually a big help during the start of my Diverge experience. I'm not going to sit he and act as if Sosa wasn't a minge as I was partially victim to his antics as I was a Bonanno during his time in De Leon, but if he has been this consistent with appeals I believe he should be given a second chance. I don't think the "pay the toll" catchphrase is a fair approach to this ban and I think he should be given another chance and if unbanned should be watched for a little. I also would like to note Anzati was insanely correct with the PVP over RP comment, De Leon a group that was full of minges but thankfully they've changed their ways as of recent, ix_crazy for example, he isn't perfect by all means but he is definitely more behaved compared to 2024 and I feel this might be the same situation for Rupert/Sosa.

Look, just because he has a PO doesnt mean he is going to cheat again. He was banned for being in a cheating Discord, but that doesnt necessarily mean he was cheating on "Diverge". Personally, I don't really care what he did on other servers what matters is whether he actually cheated here.

nigga quit the yap

Underboss here helped work on this for a while we are very optimistic for the future and put in a whole lot of work so this could work out right. the films were the hardest to make we didn't even really have a script or a idea of what film lol. jet had came up with a idea of those like "INSIDER" interviews with the old cartel members and decided to do one too, i did enjoy the making of this, and i hope if we do get into the city you guys will see the RP we bring to the table and some of the new and old school stuff were bringing back into our faction we also have more great ideas modeling and other short story's that weren't even included on the app to make it not patchy. either way i will plus one my own app LOL!

+1 TM learns the identity of the person WHILE they're tied up, no interaction, no description, no nothing and goes straight up and kills the first person he sees. I would quite literally punish the person who killed Bao for RDM . Complete BS PK.

rich maybe awesome not much strong doubtful

Yeah like it doesnt fit at all but would be fun so I have no idea what to think

Aslong as you have robes I’ll make a character for it, a cult would be really funny

Well with a bit more context, I don't believe you knowingly or immorally committed admin abuse. I do however believe at this time that you had insufficient evidence or reason to authorize the PK and were misinformed or misled by the member who ordered the HIT. Nothing personally against your competence or judgment. I just believe that you were misled and so you didn't have sufficient evidence to authorize. No big deal. I'll explain: I appreciate the response and opportunity to clarify, but I must respectfully and thoroughly dispute the validity of this PK. I was an original member of Sanzekai and, following that group’s disbandment, never joined, was never initiated into, nor invited by the faction Takahashi-Kai. After Sanzekai’s discord and faction closed, I was never added to or even contacted about the new group's discord, and thus have had zero communication with or knowledge of any new management, leadership, rules, or expectations. My only connection to Takahashi-Kai is an accidental technical placement—simply leftover from Sanzekai’s roster, not from any in-character recruitment or roleplay. The only possible way I can be in this faction is if Sanzekai's faction server file was recycled into an entirely new group (when it should have been demolished with Sanzekai's disband, starting a new faction from scratch). This, I believe to be a non-malicious server-side error that harmed my RP IC continuity. I have not been present for any meetings, have never visited the new faction’s locations, do not know their vendors or products, and have not been informed of any dues, obligations, or rules. It is impossible for me to be a “liability” to a group I have never even spoken to or been made aware of in any capacity. I have none of their info or "secrets". For further context, I once had a discord conversation during the closing stages of Sanzekai where new management brought up my inactivity, dues, and possible removal from the faction, as I was busy earning a doctorate in real life and couldn’t play much for a couple years. Rage and other high-ranking Sanzekai members told the new leaders that I was very busy IRL but was an original since spring 2021 and should be grandfathered in. They explicitly agreed to let me stay on the roster as an OG who only pops into town, with an understanding that I did not have the same tax requirements while inactive and that I was always welcomed back. I have only played 2 times briefly to reminisce and walk around town late at night for like 20-30 minutes since I noticed the map changed and I’m randomly in Takahashi-Kai, With Sanzekai gone and all those high-ranking members, including Rage, now gone as well, there is no fair IC continuity or expectation by which Takahashi could claim a legitimate PK reason against me. I do not know any current Takahashi management or have any connection to their operations. Another layer of complication is added where Diverge Networks does not have specific, detailed rules governing faction transitions or what happens when one faction dissolves and another takes over its infrastructure and member roster (consider this an opportunity to update/improve your server rules regarding faction disbands and transitions ). My search results online show various faction applications and one case where faction transfers caused technical "PK registration" issues, but no established protocol for member liability transfer from dissolved factions to successors. There are no rules requiring new leadership to honor previous agreements, notify members of faction changes, or establish how someone becomes officially "part of" a successor organization versus just being on an inherited roster. This regulatory gap actually strengthens my appeal argument because I cannot be held liable under faction rules I never agreed to, by leadership I never met, in an organization that I never officially joined due to the absence of proper succession protocols. Per the server rules, a valid PK must be based on “repeated… poor behaviour, misconduct, violation of your family rules or even blatant disrespect of made men in your organization… there has to be tangible damages, disrespecting someone once is not a reason to kill someone. This also means you cannot PK someone for mucking up JUST one time. Having continued issues or warnings about behaviour or disputes can cause escalation to a PK. (record the Warnings/encounters/transgressions need be (very important key evidence invalidating PK))” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). In my case, I have not received any warnings, and there is no documentation or record of repeated problematic behavior, damages, or disputes—because there have been none. My only absence was due to real-life reasons, openly discussed a year or so ago with previous leadership, and never addressed IC or OOC by anyone in Takahashi-Kai. I would like to see evidence (from he who ordered the hit) of old posts or records that indicate I was on their discord (Discord: .butface; I never was), or video/text/log evidence of warnings or attempt to rectify debt or liability (which should exist before the on-duty staff member approves a PK, so I expect they should be provided here in the report as the sole basis for evidence legitimizing the hit; there is none and that would be insufficient evidence at the very least making this a clear violation of DivergeNetworks PK rules and a mistrial). This guy is just a hater that I don’t know who was bored at 3am. Rules specify, “The order must be given in-game by the Don or trusted High Command member of the family… The person receiving the order must have the identity (f3) of whomever is giving the order, they need to know who their boss is, they can't receive an order from someone they don't know” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I had no in-game interaction, no opportunity for dialogue, no warning, and never even received a basic introduction from any current leadership. I was presented with no RP opportunity to amend, clarify, or officially leave, nor was I told of taxes or obligations—because I was never made aware or added to the new group’s infrastructure at all. How can I be held accountable for rules, policies, or debts I was never told about by a management team I neither know nor recognize? I am not theirs to “discipline” or PK. If taxes or participation truly mattered, the Don could and, per the rules, should have reached out IC to clarify, offer a way to pay or leave, or set expectations before even considering a PK (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). None of the classic, codified PK reasons—such as betrayal, snitching, repeated warnings, harm to the family, or disrupting RP continuity—apply in my case, nor are they documented. Instead, this action appears to be purely mechanical, rooted in auto-inheritance of Sanzekai records (server-side design/continuity error/non-optimal server file management), not in-character escalation, repeated damages, or any real dispute. The rules are clear that “a valid reason is required for all PK’s. A PK’s approval is entirely dependent on the reason given, if you give a weak reason such as ‘he disrespected me’ then your PK will not be approved” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules). The policy is also clear about the “left faction” clause: it applies only if a made member actively leaves, is informed, and has a two-week window with a clear in-game reasoning and evidence; there must be RP continuity and sufficient cause (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I never received any communication IC or OOC offering a way to leave or clarify my position, and I did not even know that I was considered part of any “new” organization or was on any “list.” Additionally, the requirement is for “tangible damages, unwarranted harm in a financial (+10,000$) or repeated physical way,” not mere inactivity or tax owed when no opportunity to pay or even notification of dues was ever provided (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I was not actively participating, had no chance to respond, and the organization’s claim is based only on record-keeping rather than RP process. Bottom line: Punishing a character who did not join, was not inducted, never informed of expectations, and is accused of non-participation in a group he was never actually part of is fundamentally unfair—and strictly contrary to the letter and spirit of Diverge’s rules. There was no legitimate RP escalation, warning, or opportunity for me to amend or even understand any “liability.” If there is specific documentation of repeated harm or toxicity, please present it, as stipulated in the PK rules. Otherwise, this PK is baseless, rooted in poor faction and server management (no offense, not saying this angrily, only technically just as a responsible and fair business would run with standards and policies), purely technical inheritance, and not genuine character progression or IC realism. A bona fide PK must show documentation, RP engagement, clear reason, and an opportunity for the member to be involved in the resolution or removal, none of which were given here. I would actually like to request to see proof of liability, financial debt, or text,log, or video recorded evidence by the Don or high ranking members as an attempt to contact me and inform me of necessary work or debt IC. I think it's necessary evidence on the Don's part for PK and I know that it would not exist. I've only spent 45 minutes in town in the last year or so and was just about to try to start playing again and relearn the new locations and social networks/layouts of the server now that I have a little more stability and free-time IRL. If there is any actual record of warnings, damages, or in-character misconduct, They should be presented now, as your guidelines explicitly require. Otherwise, this PK is not valid under the codified Diverge Networks PK rules—specifically for family kills, liabilities, and faction transitions—and should respectfully be overturned. (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills; Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules.) This is why I respectfully request that the PK be overturned. If current management or the Don had any real concerns, they should have reached out IC with a clear chance for me to learn, pay, leave, or explain—just as would be expected in any well-run, fair RP environment. As it stands, this sets the wrong example for returning or inactive players and undermines faction and RP continuity on the server (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills; Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules). This also encourages dropout from a user-design perspective: I wanted to start playing the character again but given the nature of having to relearn the new map and social networks, I'm not likely to start a new character on this server (especially on a 5 year old character with a decent item bank and especially when the PK was controversial; I don't even feel like my character died in RP, just basically got uninformedly minged by a player with a little bit of faction power who I did not even know; like that would lowkey be gay AF and such a lame, unwarranted, uninformed sendoff to Jimmy Hands' lore.). Also, if witnesses exist or the crime is too public, the staff may not consider it a valid or realistic RP scenario, and it could affect appeal reviews (PK rules open to interpretation puts me in the center of a public park with like 12 people standing around). While this is open to interpretation and not inherently invalidating. There weren't even any LEOS online and I was eating noodles IRL at 3am, about to log off and go to bed. there were only like 18 people online... like come onnn -_- you and I both see that. If I legitimately died from in game actions and was aware of a situation/beef that could possibly PK me.. like that's fun and fair RP. I would not complain, and I have endured many of those attempts/threats. This seems heavily disputable and kind of mingy and confusing for the one receiving the PK (me; you can see in the video i didn't even react angrily or verbally when I got PK'd just pure confusion). You should know why when you die or at least have some ideas. This just kinda feels like a slap in the face to OG characters who have supported the server and helped foster the community in the early days who wish to re-enter town and aren't doing anything to get PK'd. They couldn't have even like picked me up, talked to me, told me i was in trouble/to prepare for death like in a cool way so that I could at least clip Jimmy-Hands' demise in execution style. This was all done wrong. I would encourage and appreciate multiple staff members to hear my reasoning and judge for themselves, perhaps to cross examine and give fair trial.

fair tbh.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

It's all fun and games until you have to actually run this thing and have active people deal with it and do it in an unbiased way without ooc influence. Ask why we don't do elections anymore.

he lost it all

It isnt considered a Fail Mug. It's just not a smart thing to do. If you try to put someone under FearRP while they're already holding a gun in their hand (even with the safety), FearRP doesn't apply to them. That means they can attempt to defend themselves without the risk of being PK'd. However, if they manage to kill the muggers, the muggers will be PK'd. So while it's definitely a risky and unwise mug attempt, BUT it isn't a Fail Mug. Short answer to the question in the topic is No. If someone tries to apply FearRP on you while you already have a gun in your hand and attempts to mug you, you are allowed to defend yourself without the risk of being PK’d. However, if you manage to kill the attackers while doing so, they will be PK’d.

The rules are public access are y'all illiterate?

Live laugh love the hand of paimon

+1 I understand some of the negativity people place around you, but these interactions are far and in between. What I'd say to any skeptic is that nobody is perfect, and that this level of experience and hours should count towards something. Not only this but he is very accountable and genuinely cares about the experience of others in his care. In the end it should all count for something in my opinion.

-1 Massive Ego,Imagine with staff powers

+1

Fat fuck you 500 pounds nigga stfu yellow teeth weirdo

I'm skeptical of putting a +1 in for this since I've seen togna's previous rp, but the idea itself is really fucking cool. Would be insane if yall added cool content for flavor.

Hi. I am the member of staff who dealt with this PK. You mugged a Popov, the guy made a ticket asking about some info if it was legit or mugging chars. After confirming that it was a legit mug the guy asked about getting a revenge kill. I explained to him that he would need to ID the person that mugged him, when he walked past the Garrison he saw you. You still had the grey/white hair male09 model, with a gas mask on and a black bandanna on. After this you were set PK active to Popov and after hours of stalking the Garrison you were spotted and gunned down by one of the Popov people. https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/myeb0VdoJ4utiY3cP?invite=cr-MSx6aFosMTU4NjUzNjY3&v=39

Appreciate you taking the time to respond But I honestly dont remember ever talking while I didnt have my mask on, and no offense, but I’m like 99% sure I didnt make that kind of mistake If i actually did, then it is what it is, i only lost like 20k anyway, so its not a big deal for me What I really dont get is why the PK was still active hours later?? I just cant make sense of the logic behind that

This is actually unfair 3 hours have passed since the mugging as he said he recognized his voice are people supposed to use voice changers now?

-1 14 year old

Oil and legal stocks that get established, sure. But, drug prices? Hyper cringe. Immersion broken. Fuck you. Soft +1 for an Oil/stock ticker to be placed in several spots in the Southside as a vague idea tho

I should be able to wrap my opps dead skin and muscle tissue around a robot clone and control it with my NeuraLink

Did you know that we are playing a video game? The entire server has, long ago, been allowing teenagers to hold positions in all manner of high stress positions. Bosses of legitimate companies, police, criminal faction leaders, etc. My honest suggestion is to grow the fuck up and get over it. Kids also find it odd to hang out with grown ass men online and they aren’t necessarily wrong for feeling that way. RP is supposed to mean we only let enough bleed in to hold ourselves to a basic standard of decency when playing with younger people and we don’t do weird shit when kids are around and keep weird shit to a minimum because they could be around at anytime. Many adults have a hard time with this but we have to deal with it and cope so just get in line. That’s what being online and RPing on a game will always entail until you go join 18+ and 21+ RP servers which still aren’t perfect and are usually full of degenerates who replace real life with RP. So, pick your poison.

Shit up

It'd be kinda cool if instead of seeing what they were armed with weapon wise, or etc if all the body showed was Name: Cause of Death: Time of death: Then when killed a prop version of their weapon drops on the ground that acts like bullet casings, opening a while now level of RP when the cops come and collect it, possibly giving them the serial number, and then they can use a GSR kit to determine whether it was fired, it also wouldn't be bad to add more things that a hitman can look out for / RP with "You want So and So Dead?, I'll kill him and bring you his gun as proof." "I'll kill him and bring you his fingers as proof" etc. Might open the door to more RP, personally I think when chopping up a corpse you should also get hands, and have the ability to cut off fingers to send a message to people, this is Mafia RP After all