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Name of Character: Chris two shits amato Character ID: 184236 SteamID: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Trapwalker/ Your Discord ID#: chris.443 Date of PK: 11/25/2025 Reason for PK: failmug. Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: My intentions were not to mug or partake in the mugging, i was merely just standing by and watching and observing. i was not trying to partake in the mugging as i was really just along for the ride and merely seeing what was going on. Again this is my first time playing the game so i don't know what was going on and really was just watching and witnessing. for i had worked real hard to make a grind and join my current faction and i feel i was falsely lead into this trap that now led to me being PKed.

Your form of roleplay is wearing a kfc bucket on your head calling people broke -1 id try fivem or something to teach you how to roleplay better and then maybe you can come back after a few months

I think realistically the lifeblood of restaurant RP isn't player characters being hungry - that maybe only applies to cops who come into the Blue Lobster for example as and when they need food. Most restaurant RP is players having arranged or impromptu dinners and meals with their families, crews, factions etc. Having accessible food vendors through the hotdog stands doesn't quell RP - if restaurants were the only source of good food then I'd argue it could do more harm than good, as people would spend more time in RP businesses during grinding gameplay loops when they probably aren't intending to RP. If I was trying to do a full table hosting roleplay and being constantly interrupted by players demanding food at the bar as quick as possible I'd find that frustrating. TL;DR - Removing or making hotdog vendors undesireable could push more non-RP to legal fronts

I wrote the orders on you. first off, you retired over OOC shit saying Gmod isnt for you anymore before we could even ask you what was going on. We never gave you approval to retire. You just left. Weeks go by, and you are saying you want to come back, which means you havent been paying into anything for the weeks you left. Then you flat out told our Head Enforcer that if we dont let you back in you will mug or kill HC to get what you want. You said this in the city to him IC and it was clipped. Which is why we moved forward with the PK. You accept the risks of death when you enter this thing. There is even a little notification you agree to when you join.

People hate it because you can lose items and suffer character destruction. People are punished for breaking the rules around mugging (which there are many) because each mug and the context behind it is generally nuanced. Using it to target people for pks (engaging with it in bad faith) using alt characters to mug avoiding all risk, only mugging and not roleplaying as a symptom of dark rp brain. Mugging is an integral part of criminal aspects of the server and even as controversial as it is or has been it remains a part of the game, but it has recognizably flawed attributes which are mediated and covered by rules. Engage with it properly and don't be surprised if you get banned for breaking a rule. Placing a bounty and incentivising people to mug someone where the explicit goal (incentive) is to get that person pked? (Circumventing roleplay and mass target mugging them in hopes they make a mistake and get penalized) The very nature and goal being to inflict harm and ruin the other persons roleplay. People will be understandably upset if they feel they were subject to unfair, ooc motivated, non rp driven targetting

-1 My Left Nut has more RP than you.

+1 niggahs mad that yall mugged a ADA for rp reasons ADA im your next suspect.

Can’t tell if you’re joking or retarded. Monaclu would be biased to the mega alliance more than his judge char lmfao. Which he wasn’t…. God the excuse of “we did a target mug for roleplay.” Yet how is helmet going to send out a mugging hit on someone for doing their job? Unless he was corrupt I could see the exception. There was a reason cops can’t get mugged anymore.

well well well.

It's funny cause we did this some time ago and everyone bitched and moaned and complained about how when the restos arent on or open it sucks and blah blah blah

mayb add debuffs 4 eating non cookable food, heart disease update

idk who this is, but they probably don't have a rig system set up, so they just ignore the bones. pretty unoptimized because you're constantly having to set the position of the model to follow the player instead of just parenting with EF_BONEMERGE

“The Cassanos have a history of killing people without logical IC evidence/reasoning” Who even are you you’re tweaking put the cup down

tldr its because we don’t have a 1 crim 1 legal char system. people don’t wanna risk the stuff they have had for a while so they use alts to not risk anything major.

Hi, I'm so glad you asked. There's a lot of nuance that goes into it, and I'll focus on the player perspective rather than the staff perspective for the most part. Generally speaking, muggers are not actual longstanding characters who gravitate towards intense actual real RP. For instance, take a streetboss. Would a streetboss mug someone? Some would, but most of them wont. Would a kapo? Some would, most wont. In these roles, theres an extreme necessity to maintain your character so you can keep RP going smoothly within your faction. You're important. Your loss is devastating. Even for people who are associates who are high earners, and do a lot of restaraunt RP and RP with other factions, the loss is devastating. What *typically* happens, is muggers are people who dont care if they are pked at all. Like, when was the last time ever in the last 3 years, have you seen a mugger appeal getting pked? You haven't. Typically, they just dont give half a shit. And you might say, "Well, they know that they are cooked." But so do the people who break fear RP. It's cut and dry. Open and shut. Same with dons orders. But they all try to claw their way, bend the rules trying to get unpked. The only group that tends not to actually even care enough to appeal are people who mainly mug. Because the work that goes into re-obtaining your wealth is literally getting a pistol and a friend. For non muggers, its rebuilding, running drugs for weeks, doing actual RP to re-establish themselves in the community, oftentimes theres a rank restriction for upper faction members. It's very out of balance. Now, is that to say all muggers are like this? Obviously not. You have plenty of actual, real players who really RP a lot who do muggings. Take for instance, the colombos. Very dedicated players, very good RP. Some of them still mug. I've seen higher ranking colombos mug, to send a message. To gain something. It's relevant to their RP, they're not just "me want suit, me rob 12 people." When they're not mugging, which is often, they're doing actual roleplay and embellishing themselves into the community. Shout out colombos Also, to consider, even in instances in which someone isn't a mugging character , i.e. they've been around for a month and havent touched mugging at all, and then decide to mug, there's still a massive perceived power imbalance. Who do muggers target? People with the nicest suits. Oftentimes, its characters that are months and months, if not years old. The risk for the mugger is seen as much smaller. Now, from a staff perspective, that doesn't matter at all. But to the community, it matters a lot. From the staff perspective, our job is to try and balance the community perspective with the fairness of the rules. So we assess a lot of things when we decide whether or not someone who is mugging a lot is actually doing stuff that would justify them mugging so much. Are they roleplaying? Are they well established? We'll watch them, keep an eye on them. If all they do when they're not mugging is minge and be a retard and not actually put any real effort into roleplaying, then obviously its an extreme problem. Because you tip the scale to "Worthless" in terms of cultivating a really nice roleplay environment. Obviously, people mugging is fine. I actually encourage mugging. I think it keeps things generally fun for players, and adds actual risk. Same with police existing. Obviously, you need risk from other criminals and police otherwise this game is just cookie clicker. Pick up drugs, sell, rinse repeat until you can get a really cool suit and walk around town. That's boring. Nobody wants to admit it, but the police and hostile criminal RP is incredibly important to the experience of the player. But, in your case, you were more of the "Worthless" category.

It usually depends on who you mug and how I've personally mugged a few people and I don't think anyone hates me for it lol? It's usually hated when all you do is mug or make it your "personality" in the server, mugging someone once in a blue moon is fine but just doing it multiple times a week, is to me absurd

Your Character or Steam Name: a_fuzzy_jacket Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): 76561198055522178 Your Discord ID#: article_of_clothing Reason for ban: alt account perm ban Length of ban: perm Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): tried joining on other account after getting banned and got perma'ed, probably shouldn't have done that and I am sorry. Why should you be unbanned? had a lot of fun playing, honest mistake Additional Information (images, videos, etc):

Your Character or Steam Name: Matthew Lalop'a Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:0:510663854 Your Discord ID#: Jusapersonyk Reason for ban: Mugging Char | Ignoring mugging cooldown | NiTRP | Extensive, extensive PO Length of ban: Perm Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): I was permed for robbing the DA Patrick Kennedy from a bounty by 'Helmet' @FiresideCone34 (he was arrested and charged and put a bounty on mugging him for 100k) Matthew Lalop'a is not a mugging char and has extensive ties in supreme team - had to leave fact cause i def thought Patrick Kennedy was gonna PK me with that 164.5 year warrant and didn't wanna wait forever to join back, was released from no CC filed. Matthew lalop'a was also in the Kosher for a bit before he had to leave, Yes Matthew lalopa mugs but has on contracts and also follows the mugging rules. Didn't get a sit before the ban to explain how this isn't a NITRP issue or a mugging char issue. Just a contract fulfilled by me and @Alabster_ Matthew lalop'a is a enforcer that works contracts and settles beefs for mid/hc Why should you be unbanned? Didn't break cooldown if you look at the logs, Didn't mug anyone for 3 hours, Was banned before i could explain the reasoning on mugging him IC, Wasn't afforded the chance to defend myself. NITRP doesn't fit per contract with IC reasoning. Char is not a mugging char is deep in RP with contracts and enforcer RP Additional Information (images, videos, etc): can speak to Russian HC, Supreme HC.

Honestly, can someone rob joe mecli next

No im actually really biased towards the DAs office that fired me, because I have a judge char. Im also really biased against the mega alliance and am super commission main. Its definitely not that the seasoned admins and seniors have been watching these guys for a while now, and seeing them just roam around looking to mug people or minging around the city. Its not like they've mugged 9+ people in the past couple of weeks and add nothing to the server except mugging and being minges. You'll also notice we only banned 2 of the like 5 of them, so obviously the others weren't guilty of this. But im schrodingers bias, at any given moment im biased both for and against my mega alliance, both for and against the DAs office and both for and against the NYPD. As I stated in the court discord gen chat, its totally fine to mug the DA, and actually really funny to do so. If that was the problem, *all* of them would be banned. But its just not the problem. Its the mugging and minging and doing nothing else. Also shout out to @MrlogicNova for the hot take of "+1 I’ve been doing business with alabaster for some time on this char and my Colombo selling him guns I see him on that char frequently no chance he’s a mugging char." ah yes. He can't be a mugging char. I sell him guns. For his muggings and minging. And I see him on that char a lot. Granted, hes mugging and minging, but he is on that char.

The real question is who has the clip of this dude getting mugged Also why do you guys have “made man” in a street gang

Name of Character: Alexander Mitch SteamID: Date of PK: 22 November 1989 Reason for PK: thought they were people work at the garrison but they Mugged me Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: even if they gave me multiple warning but they shot me in 4 seconds If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: if anyone has a clip comment here

-1 this nigga made an alt char to mug askull and died

Cant wait to drop my f3 list in Rumour #NoRepercussions

ye i’ll be honest i don’t think this’ll force rp at all. while i get the sentiment, people are just gonna end up going to their own factions food vendor for something more filling.

I met Fuzzy on this server and we've come to be good friends. I would love to have him back in the server. I think he would be a solid person in the community if given another chance.

This guy is a good dude i had a lot of fun with this guy. He helped show me around the city when i was new and tryna figure out what was going on and was always friendly and always made people laugh and got along with them. i feel he deserves a second chance. id vouch for him. Hes a good part of this community for sure.

bbbbbBut Guuuuyyyyyysssss Llllllets keeeeep rumour ittttttss fine right?????????

nope, models are bone merged for the clothing system, they all have skeletons and bones, you can't un bone merge stuff OR add offsets

I think the flag option would be the best. People say stupid shit over rumour all the time because they think it's completely anonymous like staff can't see who is posting them. For example, last night I muted two people for saying "Askull is a lispy retard". Using OOC terms IC in a small group of people is one thing, but retards will use rumour to type stupid OOC shit to get attention from the majority of the server. If we had flags, this wouldn't be such an issue.

not hard to ignore em, quit being a sissy little bitch

-1 Author of this post flexes about having "sub 100k charID's" thus they're "not mugging chars" according to him, joins factions and mugs opposing faction only to be instantly get PK'd by faction he joined or people he mugged in group. Check his logs if you want. Why is the author even a moderator when he does dumb shit like mugging on disposable chars? I have also never seen roleplay from you guys. Who even is/what is Myers Crime Family? Who knows, Post is about 2.5 months old and author is a mingy moderator. You're lucky you have not lost staff roles and banned. in all seriousness I've not seen you or ANYONE for that matter, roleplay even once and you posted this 2.5 months ago. massive -1 just like the poster above me ^.

It's even funnier a third time

Welcome to having a 9-5

start mugging everyone you see in a alleyway and see how many people you can get banned for metagame

This behavior is unacceptable and appalling. I hope we catch the people doing this.

Last time I got mugged was Miami and I killed both them niggas then they bitched to the admins that I broke fear rp cuz they failed to kill me

Right now, rumour is 60% saying retarded shit without facing RP consequences, and 40% being used properly. I think there could be a few ways to go about changing this. 1 - Its removal entirely, and adding a system similar to the city board for creating an actual marketplace for criminals, and then enabling OOC. (The OOC part is optional) 2 - Adding a cooldown, to incentivize using it for its intended purpose, and enforcing misuse 3- Creating a flag for it, and whenever someone misuses it, they lose access for x amount of time based on the severity of the punishment. It'll also make the server seem more serious to newer players, not seeing a glorified ooc chat going off with stupid messages 24/7

Its literally not even normal white shirts half the time its players on their mains trying to grab new associates f3s

+1 If RP is the concern, he is a good RPer especially if he needs to enforce shit. IIRC he came back recently from a short break and I have RPd with him a few times since his return (yes guys.. Howard larps...) If the mug was valid and he hasnt broken the timelimit.. I dont see a reason why he should be banned let alone perma'd. If he's a main character, has quite a few valuables and is ranked/made in his faction - mugging should be fair game despite the frequency being alarming cos it's high risk high reward; not like it's a new character doing this. People haven't seen this man work the fryer in the KFNC store - he's got grandma's touch.

+1 i see all this kfc bucket shit this dude dont even own the kfc bucket or kfc suit even if he did dont blame him blame the people who allowed it to be added into the game.. this guy is our top enforcer and runs the off the grid security team all he does is rp

Hey there. You were PKed for 'raiding government property multiple times and boasting about it through advertisements'. I would reflect upon this behavior, but this PK seems valid. Further you have deleted the character making it unrecoverable. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

-1 I'd say that within 8 days of playing, devoting a whole 36 hours alongside your school and whatnot shows you're enjoying the server - which is great!!! However, I don't think that equips you with the knowledge or experience required to assist the staffing effort, and I think you'd need to be around a good few months to take in all of the niches and specifics of the server, its roleplay and its rules. Otherwise, the application is incomplete and I think you've misunderstood the last question - Would recommend you editing the app to amend those issues

Ok

If you post another appeal without following the format I will restrict your ability to post. Please read and comprehend how to post an appeal.

he went on an alt

nope

Would be nice just to add a "Repeat Offender" option that is 1 minute long, and no limit. That way you can add as many as you need. And to the naysayers who would suggest "What if they abuse it", I'd point out that you can literally already add every single charge possible to a guy.

-1 don’t remove rumor where will people call tullia fat in the next war??? have we really thought this through??