Omerta

Regardless of the zones painted on the OLD map, NPC placement supersedes the old zones painted on the mugging map. Plus, this is just to be considered in the other clusterfuck of mistakes these muggers won't own up to and what was blatantly disregarded and ignored without being looked at before the PK was issued. It's easy fro staff to PK a character that isn't theirs and be so blase about it but I know if it were them they'd scream failmug and point out the same things I did. You don't down your gun or turn away from someone you're trying to mug and you need to give clear instructions. That remains the foundation of my argument- I wasn't even under Fear RP. I just think the actual mugging being invalid should be *considered* as a potential factor. Meaning there's several issues here, which should have been considered BEFORE a PK was just forced on me in this stupid ass situation.

I have been urged to show the evidence that also might prove this as a complete failmug from the get-go due to NPC witnesses. That is not the foundation of my initial argument, but really just goes to show how poorly executed the initial mugging was. This could have gone down as a proper and legit mugging if it had been coordinated better and I had two guys on me and the one guy hadn't turned/dropped his gun and had given clear demands/commands to me. However, this whole thing may be invalid. Here are the arguments presented:

Good thing I pulled my gun out before the guy in front of me issued any commands. Plus, if they had been coordinated better and weren’t spazzing out, running all around like speds and shouting in Discord (just a guess but probably 100% correct) then they outnumbered us and could’ve put 2 armed men per person which would’ve put us under Fear RP anyways. I am not above taking a mugging on the chin but unfortunately everyone spazzes out and uses chaos to shoot first and get bodies dropped before asking questions later. State of play.

You didn’t make any demands of me. You turned away/pole down when I pulled my gun, which I waited for- just in case, and you made a command AFTER I had it pulled. Argue til you’re blue. I know the facts and that they were talking to Sonny and that I wasn’t involved. Only one dude on me wasn’t commanding me, 15-20 feet from everything. This PK is completely bogus. My failmug ticket was ignored, my video/perspective wasn’t taken into consideration, and my PK was issued before my ticket was closed. Unless an Admin asks for more information from me, which I doubt, I’ve stated my truths. I’ll wait for a response and pray for fairness.

So, you admit that I wasn’t the target and was just a witness. And the argument that you issued commands to me and never dropped your gun are outright lies. Grow up and learn to play in good faith rather than lying for a kill.

Guy on the guardrail watching. NPC watching. You’re on the sidewalk when you start to mug Sonny. I am across the street with another guy. One dude. He doesn’t say shit. Slips up so I’m able to pull my gun ON SAFETY which was my entire intention because I did not yet assess the situation. Even still, I’m an idle threat and wasn’t put under Fear RP nor given time to comply with any demands (demands that weren’t even given to me!) so it’s kind of funny how the issue is being so horribly conflated and details are being outright LIED about.

Yellow Zone does not nullify the fact that an NPC is watching. Not to mention ME, who was not yet under Fear RP. You may NOT mug in front of NPCs as they are considered witnesses in RP. You may not bypass this rule by attempting to 'pull them away under FearRP in front of an NPC. Do not target people using NPCs/ATMs/Stashes. This includes camping. AND Use this map as a general guide to understand where you can mug on the spot and where you can initiate a mug when no one is around to pull them into a secluded area / empty building. The goal of this image is to help reduce fail mugs. It is a good guideline to follow, all rules listed in this section will supersede the map and staff have the final say regarding what is or isn't fail mug in a sit. Yellow Zones do not supersede the presence of any witnesses or bystanders.

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n3wjdw5sAusYkKIgM?invite=cr-MSw2dHEsNTE1NzIzMjc1 Another perspective of the mugging. Showing I was not under Fear RP at the moment I was shot. Whether or not IT was legitimate originally was not the issue for me ICly. I had ONE guy wagging a gun in front of me and I waited for an opportunity to draw my gun on Safety, idle, to avoid a mug and assess the situation. If I am under Fear RP, I am going to fear for my life. The situation was chaotic so I waited for the guy in front of me to slip up and see if he was going to say anything. I found my opportunity to pull on Safety and he clearly decided to blow me away to send me to the hospital and get me out of the way of his mugging. Whether it was a legitimate mug, which I still don’t believe it was, I DEFINITELY was not part of it YET and somehow I was killed anyways. Rules should matter. Me and a guy 15-20 feet away having our own spat only vaguely related to that mugging. You can’t just shoot a guy who is witness to a mugging. You need to get him under Fear RP to mug us as a group or wait until there’s no witnesses.

Name of Character: Vincenzo Spataro Character ID: 148940 SteamID: Steam ID: 76561198094712101 Your Discord ID#: samurai.x Date of PK: 7/5/2026 Reason for PK: Shot During a Failmug/Mugging by Boosted Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: The demands were being issued to a guy behind me. Not me. Only one dude is near me and pulls a gun out and doesn't issue any demands to me. I wait for him to turn/lower his weapon before I pull mine out to avoid being mugged. At 16 second I pull out my gun. At 17 seconds they issue a command and promptly shoot me in the head to remove me from the scenario to continue mugging the other guy. Now, to the larger point- I made about 8 or 9 Failmug tickets with the clip below showing these facts attached, but nobody took that ticket before issuing the PK. I wasn't even pulled to a sit. The ONE guy who had a gun out near me did not issue a command until my gun was out. I am not Sonny. I am not a DeCavalcante. Plus, there's an NPC right next to where Sonny got mugged. I made a handful of Failmugging tickets and none were taken before the PK was issued. Nobody even looked at my clip. Nobody watched or reviewed our clips or information. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n3vEv4eb98EFMs5Qc?invite=cr-MSxZRUEsMjg2MzU4MDEw&v=35

Imagine joining the RP server and Roleplaying yourself instead of counting on the system to do it for you. The keyboard is *right there* bro.

+1

In real life I am fucking lame and in this City I am a cool kinda guy. Bad argument. Decent suggestion, though. +1 It’s completely retarded that more information isn’t available by looking at the item. Magazines are clearly labeled in small print right on the box. Stamped or embossed. Anyone who has handled a gun would be able to at least know what goes with what so long as they have no serious brain damage.

You fucking people, man.

This will never happen because the “legal RP” for the people who take that route is almost exclusively done in Pager from my experience. What a fucking nightmare.

I’d say a rebalance of the vehicles or whatever Canadian is touching on would be best. A blanket nerf would be a decent temporary fix for balancing, I guess, but really isn’t the most effective. People already sprint faster than your car’s acceleration at times and some other shit. I believe you’re spoiled by super fast cars and you likely don’t hit the pavement much daily with such a heavy handed stance.