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I cannot believe people metagame, insane! Ban all these powergamers.

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You have a huge number of notes and bans including 2 Powergame PO's - one of which was a ban less than 2 weeks ago.

alt e on something

for me going into third person with F4 a couple times fixes it

I was in a car with a few pals, and then my game froze so i turned off my computer, did other things for an hour, and came back. When i came back, my entire screen was upside down. Ragdolling with /fallover doesnt do anything.

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Hello Grimmy. ARDM is not an IC issue, the following is why; I've lived the example. I was given an attempted RDM note for punching somebody during 4th of july, for mic spamming in spawn. I didn't try to kill her whatsoever, but it happened regardless. ARDM IS an OOC issue. Attempting to kill somebody for no reason is minge behavior. That's why it's called ARDM. Randomly shooting at somebody as a cop, not as a result of poor training but as a result of your arrogance, is ARDM. Randomly stabbing somebody, randomly punching people, all of that is random and unreasonable. Thereby, it's attempted random deathmatch. As for the gunfight, I strongly disagree with this choice by UA; this is well within the designated-by-staff, designed-by-staff criteria of a five minute conflict. Two minutes. It is inconsequential to roleplay if he should survive this confrontation, but it is highly consequential to roleplay if he doesn't, because the point of this rule is to allow for retaliation after the unjust behavior of the police. Shooting back at police within a five minute time period, especially the ones that tried to kill you for no reason at all, can help the victim of the ARDM icly, and this kind of thing without ic consequence for the victim would be a great deterrent to the police randomly shooting at people. Especially, if somebody just drives off and is not(* or no longer a) threat. No. This is a retarded take. "6: You may kill in self defence or in defence of your partners/faction/property (Must have F3). When you've been attacked by an aggressor and survive (you did not aggravate or bait them to hit you) you may return with a weapon to kill them. ". This explicitly states, thereby it is fair to assume from an average person's perspective, with it explicitly written to be the case, that he may return fire later. The police invited this confrontation, it is unfair to become a sudden death trap because you started a problem for no reason.

we did this in the past i wasn't a fan of it personally the Rizzuto casino would've been cooler if it had in game mechanics

you will die

eat dirt chump

+1 using websites is gay and lame, i want to play in game. +5000 larp points +200 cool points +50 idea points

pokeronline + meeting in person + having a decent dupe pokeronline is arguably a better alternative than an in game mechanic.

+1 solid suggestion, RDR1 being the example is what i like the most, it would be the best system to add into diverge one because of simplicity and two because i don't wanna play URL links, its boring and not worth buying in 50k. This is a great suggestion and definitely should be implemented into the city.

It would be a cool feature to have a actual "illegal" gambling racket yes you have blackjack in the casinos but in the sopranos and other mob media such as "gotti" or "goodfellas" you see backroom cardgames where they are actually playing cards. To have a actual table where you can actually play cards instead of just hitting 2 buttons, think of red dead 1's mechanics with poker. would make illegal gambling operations an actual problem for cops to deal with and it would be cool to have backroom games where players can actually participate in the card game instead of using a URL to simulate the experience. I have seen addon's such as what I'm describing on the workshop which could work with diverges current add-on list. Any questions to how this could actually be used or any disagreements you have let me know in the reply's and i can go further in detail on the suggestion

So two things in response to this. You were both banned as you were both involved in the situation. Just as you were involved in metagaming a mugging like 30m earlier. Where you received a metagame note (I should really extend this for the continued metagame you admitted to) It's the same in my opinion as if you were walking around with someone actively breaking the rules and actively knowing they'd be breaking the rules. With you admitting to being in a VC with him I can't argue that you weren't spurring him on in the moment to do so. Especially with you yourself mentioning that you didn't like the exact business you then targeted. I'm sure you can see how this looks

Ardm is an IC issue RDM is what we punish but if it's ARDM it can be dealt with in many IC ways Have a good night

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+1 UNPK tupac and perma ban sidoolavich

aye, would be intresting to watch this one... but it was a good discussion with you gr1mmy... P.S so "attempted" rdm is ok? ;D

We'll see where it goes. Also the cop shooting you Is an IC issue. If however he killed you then it's an RDM which becomes a staff issue Him simply shooting you Is not rdm

an rdm is not an IC issue, a cop breaking the rule of not giving enough time to respond is also not an IC issue... the cop breaking protocol if thats what you mean, i agree with you... but RDM is also against the rules... thus, not ICly... (could ALSO be dealt with ICly but does not have to be... otherwise EVERY rdm can be dealt with ICly but not OOCly...) the car, he "fled"... you admitted it and admitted the UA used that wording too. are we honestly not allowed to get cover and HAVE to jump out at that spot getting run over 50 fucking times BEFORE i can shoot the cop who's already spam tazed me and arrested me? yea, its THAT spot... outside BL where everyone speed races that stretch lol since it was still within the 5 mins, a cop doing lethal force first can not lead to a PK if defending oneself. tupac also said he aint paying shit for this one lol

The cop shooting him was RDM But him returning and Rdming the cop who wasn't trying to arrest anyone and simply walking down the street at that time caused me to not warn either party as both were in the wrong. At the end of the day if a cop shoots you it's an IC Issue. But you can Actively Respond to it in an Active Situation On that note He cannot shoot from the drivers seat but if he got out of the car whilst being shot at or at the bottom of the road and THEN Returned fire. Wouldn't have been a PK. And on that topic walking up to three officers and Gunning one down isn't really "Valuing" One's life when there's two other armed officers next to him

Hey gr1mmy, first thing first, you be right and sorry on my behalf about it... but secondly, he cant exactly shoot from the driver seat can he? people be talking about hopping out the car to shoot but in all fairness these people probs shoot glocks in a firing range sideways and wonder why they cant hit shit but concrete... let alone cover since they be walking tanks on steroids whom bullets can not kill because milenial plot armour... the rule states it written down... he fled... its even in laws... to "flee" in a car is a felony resisting otherwise your words here of him "not flee'ing but leaving peacefully" would affect the laws too, would they not? ""When we'd finally come to a decision we noticed a member of UA Was available and also requested his input on the topic. Where 4Lights agreed with me that you'd Left the situation. Fled the area and that interaction was over."" you also said it yourself... "fled"... he didnt do it at 4 mins or 6 mins thus pushing the boundries... he done it within 2 mins... didnt die between then and now the situation of killing the cop, the cop didnt die, they was waiting around to see.... otherwise im allowed to do this too if i became a cop? you setting a bad standard for when another cop just shoots and hits a person "but its not rdm its just you "fled" but not really you left the situation despite bleeding on the dash of the car and still hurt from the bullet..." he was still hurt from the bullet... it didnt "undo" because he fled... this is a typical scene of so many accidental rdms and even a standard about the cop doing lethal action FIRST... the only disagreement is "ohh you fled so its ended" when in the rules it states you are allowed to return within 5 mins with a weapon.... it was not tupac's fault nor choice that the cop decided to shoot straight after an order and randomly hit people he did not intend to shoot... otherwise aint that also not giving enough time to obey an order? 5 seconds right? hell.... Aint that rdm or at the very least a reason to shoot the person within the timelimit? if not remove all our PO's for accidental crossfire please and while you're at it please remove felonies for evading police in cars since its not "flee'ing"... i like that standard actually... on all the games iv played, iv not seen as much flip-flopping of the rules to help out friends and the like as much as this...