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+1 He has been gone for more than a year; it is reasonable that he could have changed. With 16 RDM Offences he played on average 36 hours without RDMing, meaning that he likely played for weeks straight on the server without any offences and is simply prone to killing those who piss him off in one way or another but are not permissible under the rules. It is not unreasonable to draw that with the amount of RDM compared to his high playtime, Pappy has intended to play seriously but has often made mistakes, with those he killed likely not being RDMed in the sense that the killings were in actuality random, but those he killed out of annoyance or grievance but were incompatible to the rules. Pappy should be allowed to come on Diverge oncemore.

Hi, banning admin here! Let's go through this point by point together. Yes, you were not brought into a staff sit. Why? There was no reason too. I had taken the time to collect the evidence confirming what had happened. As you already explained here, it was someone you admitted to knowing OOCly that you gave a firearm too illegally. This was already confirmed during my investigation and would have just been reiterated during a sit. Yes, that is this clip here which was given during the initial report. In it, you approach who was identified as @ix_crazy_xi while consulting with other staff who recognized him. The reason it took two days, not three, is because with your history I knew this could turn into this, a permanent ban so I did my due diligence. During that time I uncovered quit a bit of unsavory evidence. First, it was in fact your other char (Alphonso "Neph" Varese) that gave his char (Bobo Salamon) the Skorpion as confirmed with these logs here. Second, I ensured I checked both that i had the correct name and char ID before checking if he had a valid class 3 license. Confirming the correct char here and firearms registry here. So, after confirming that you knew he was illegally carrying that gun and then calling off the RP after you knew it would get back your other char; that is the definition of metagame. Straight from our own rules page for rule abbreviations - "Metagame = Using Out of Character information In-Character" In this server it is common knowledge, practice, and enforced that anything over voice unless in a staff sit is always apart of RP and to be considered IC and can be acted upon as. In this clip you are not in a staff sit. You are clearly in RP in front of the Continental hotel. This again is by definition metagame. You would not be the one pressing charges, the DA's office would be. At that point it would be out of your hands as soon as an investigation is opened. You have been around long enough, played cop long enough you know this is not the situation. Also, is not power game. It is RP being brought about from IC interactions, not someone forcing you into RP by planting evidence or false reports. Quite frankly it is not an over reaction. It is the result of you knowing the rules and repeatedly breaking them countless times over and now facing consequences for them. You were already permabanned before in the past and was granted grace to return to the server. Even after your return, you have continued to RDM, promote others RDMing, and metagaming on multiple occasions. Here and here, is your list of notes. You will see on this list you have multiple counts of metagame. Those multiple counts of metagame start to look even worse when you look at your ban history which can be found here. You came back from your permaban and continued to metagame, get banned for it repeatedly and even RDM and get banned for it repeatedly. You have been given countless chances to show us you have learned from your mistakes and to become a valued member of this community yet have continuously failed to do so. Your actions have escalating consequences in this community and unfortunately you have now reached the highest level potential rehabilitation we can offer to players for the second time.

Hello, I was the one who removed your flags as well as the others. We received a few tickets regarding "several hijab guys running around prop minging". The first sit was regarding this video below, with you standing next to him, clearly not being vocal against the person's actions, so that was suspicion #1 that you guys were doing it together and encouraging each other to do it: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iYnL4A4Fi2slOfYHf/cdSr7InutZ4S?invite=cr-MSx2dHosMjUzNzg5ODAyLA So I took that one guy's flags away, then the very next sit, another guy claiming it's "some guys in hijab clothing prop abusing", then I'm sent the following clip which then made me investigate by looking up the specific prop used; resulting in me seeing you, him, and another hijab wearer spawning in the exact same prop. I then TP'd to where you spawned it in, and it was in the middle of the road by the LSD dealer / city hall. This put me in a position to make a choice: (1) Make a judgement call and take both their flags away to stop people from having their time on the server ruined and piss off 1 person, or (2) give the 1 person the benefit of the doubt and risk even more tickets coming in, making me look like I'm allowing people to do this and set a bad precedent. This was a judgement call for you specifically, but in my opinion I've seen the "only have 1 person break the rules until he's banned then the next person, then the next person, etc. etc. so we can troll for as long as possible" a LOT of times, and this was my way of getting ahead of it: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iYo0XRNAeLJ9RnvGP/4uC6VQFvNuuc?invite=cr-MSw3YXUsMTI5NDQyNTI4LA Now as for "not explaining anything to you" part; you're wearing hijab clothing. That tells me you are nowhere near new to the server. You know only super admins + can re-enable pet flags for someone who was blacklisted, making a sit to discuss it would be completely pointless and a waste of both our times as there were tickets covering my whole screen that needed to be addressed and time was of the essence to get them done. For whether or not you should get them back, that's much higher than my pay grade, and they'll decide that, but in the end I genuinely believe all of you had some hand in prop abusing as 3 people wearing the same outfits spawning the same prop of all props in different areas of the map didn't add up to something harmless, especially with prop abuse clips as bad as those. EDIT: The log and location of where you spawned in the metal gate prop:

Picture this: You're an officer of the NYPD. Half of the criminals you try to catch run at super speeds and you physically can't catch them. You can follow them in a car, but by the time you get out of the car they're gone. They always end up in the same place; the ocean. There, they're untouchable. Now, picture this: You're an officer of the NYPD. You have a criminal you're chasing on a felony charge, big case potential. He's running way too fast for you, you're going to lose him. BUT WAIT! You've just so happened to prep for this moment by purchasing an Adrenaline Shot from the NYPD locker for like $10,000! What a change of dynamic! It has the same exact effects of cocaine; except it's legal for police officers to carry and utilize! Now you don't have to decide between keeping a baggy of cocaine for yourself and risking it all for your cases, or letting most of your criminals get away! But I hear you. "Why not just tase them before they realize whats happening?" "Why not shoot them in the leg?" Tasers don't hit half the time, it's a challenge to land a shot. Every criminal who's on cocaine knows to keep their distance anyway. If you shoot someone in the leg, you're gonna get raped in court. "Load rubber rounds!" - That still means they get to shoot back at you and end up dead without risk of PK. Make it happen. Please. For the NYPD.

+1 badass

Wait until this guy plays CoD Realism is always a good thing, but never when its over the top. I think scaling the damage based on calibers would be too much.

Wouldn't him taking the firearm off of ix_crazy_xi then get both of them in more trouble for item transfer? Since both of Big sosa's chars would've touched the firearm, and that would then make ix_crazy_xi the middleman in that situation.

Again, I'm NOT in this video. I have a white player model. You can even hear that its Andrew and Julius... not me. Once again, I'm no where in this video. You didn't make a judgement call, you just saw a prop in the logs and didn't even bother to talk to me first. I spawned the prop in ON ACCIDENT. I was looking at what prop Julius was using to minge with and I clicked and instantly deleted it. Notice that the prop I spawned in, I spawned in only once and immediately deleted (not sure if logs check that). Idle curiosity isn't a malicious intent on my part. I think, it's a really shitty judgement call when you have clear video evidence on one specific party prop minging and decide to rope me in with them, even though I did nothing but wear the hijab given to me by my friend. Had no idea you couldn't reverse the blacklist- apologies that I'm not well versed in the rules. I wanted to ask why my flags were revoked and you refused to explain why you took then and linked a video of Julius prop minging. Point being, you've provided PLENTY of evidence that Julius (and Andrew) should have been investigated, but my only crime was clicking a button on my spawn menu while I was driving and then deleting the prop .5 seconds later. I didn't abuse my flags, I didn't kill anyone, all I did was wear a weird Arab suit given to me by a friend and sit in a car with my pal @Rho while he drove me around. I would have appreciated at least a staff sit or any form of communication and I could have explained all of this to you in-game. Instead, you jumped to conclusion and blacklisted me on pure speculation.

Sorry this took so long, to point out a few things here. There IS an inherent risk to trying to escape in the water. Typically we'd like to see the officers bringing the guy to shore, and making a reasonable attempt at arresting the guy, so as a mechanism to PK the guy, this is not intended, however if you are at fault for drowning it can and typically will be a PK. There was some debate over this, you were tazed in water and sank, you then say essentially you're complying, then you were cuffed under water and died. Me and some others were under the impression that you had no ability to swim up. it appears you CAN swim up when cuffed at the bottom like that, however you need to be looking straight up while he drags you and sometimes that doesn't behave properly. Given that this was not known and there was some ambiguousness to the death, potentially the dragging itself causing the PK death by suffocation. The PKing staff had offered to restart the RP with the suspect in cuffs. When this was refused by the officer, the character was PKed. After a conversation about this, we'd have much rather have had the RP restarted given the uncertainty of who's fault this death was and because of the refusal by the officer and the pressure from said officer to the staff for the PK, it comes off as PK hungry. We have deemed this PK to be invalid on these basis, the fault could have been the officers and that RP could have easily continued. Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

cool guy from what ive read +1 let him back

+1 It was only once he realized that his other character was involved he left the situation; while that may have been OOC information, and it did act slightly for his own benefit, there is a longstanding de facto rule that police do not investigate their other characters and DAs don't prosecute their other characters. There was a conflict of interest in this situation which clearly made it inappropriate for the player to continue engaging in the RP situation, there is no reason that he should be punished as he was simply following the longstanding rule of not interacting with your other characters, which he also could have been punished for if he continued the investigation, which would also lead to him being banned because of his POs. Secondly, as Smokey points out, besides the conflict of interest principle that has been clearly laid out and enforced, if Chief Sosa continued this RP situation and arrested his Out-of-Character friend and took his firearm as would be proper and standard procedure in a case like this, he would be transferring the firearm from one of his characters to another via the arrest, and benefiting from giving the firearm to the evidence locker in exchange for in-game money. For these two clear and substantiated reasons, one of which draws upon long-standing rules that affect police and DA characters, thereby affecting him at the moment, and the second being that if he did not call off the RP interaction he would be committing a greater offense by transferring items to another one of his characters for his own benefit, I believe that this ban should be completely lifted and the note removed. @Aiden Why don't you retort instead of just calling me dumb?

+1 give him a chance seems like a good guy

Your Name: Osman Onion SteamID: STEAM_0:0:76487077 Staff Member involved: Falcon What flags were blacklisted from you?: Pet ABUSE Reason for blacklist (if given): PET Abuse Why should they be returned?: The staff member blacklisted my flags with this clip as the reason, https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iYnL4A4Fi2slOfYHf/oYPvTA2cnMoZ?invite=cr-MSx2dHosMjUzNzg5ODAyLA That would be a good reason to blacklist someone's flags, except the person in the video isn't me. I'd expect a staff member would put the bare minimum effort into identifying people- especially when issuing a permanent flag blacklist. <-- This is the guy in the video, AKA Julius. Ok, then this is my character. I'm clearly NOT black, nor do I have a sniper on my back. Other than that, maybe check logs and you'll see I only spawned that prop in once and it was while I was driving, on accident. I never prop abused.

What you did was retarded, but from what I've seen, you only ever do retarded behaviour when you were with Oakley again only from what I saw myself. Every time that dumbass was involved, you were doing mad retard behaviour. I don't see it often. I'd say if you got a second chance and you ruined it, then don't come back. From only what I've experienced you are chill and can be productive if not with the retards but I can't speak other those who seen your behaviour from their eyes too

Maybe for me. Sorry, but cops already have a huge advantage in game, but I would say yes if body armor was purchasable at the gun stores. If anything, they should be made slower most cops are overweight, no offense but that's what happens when you're sitting in a cop car or behind the desk eating McDonalds every day, nobody in America packs a healthy lunch.

+1 He is great, the notes on Prometheus network's are irrelevant; a permanent ban is inappropriate for a mistake made trying to legitimately carry out serious RP, despite this He is apologetic. Diverge is lucky he didn't use SKK-Drachengruppe powers to send space lazers to the server box.

Your Character or Steam Name: Suburb Aphiliated Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:69780698 Your Discord ID#: 666780178290311175 Reason for ban: Metagame | Po's Length of ban: Permanent Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute Why should you be unbanned? Once again I was not brought into a staff sit instead I just finished a drug deal after getting off of my cop char and then I was met with a ban screen. After a second of confusion I dm'd Byte and I asked what did I do was metagame. He then showed me this clip https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iX8bEwWKAsQ7E2a5C?invite=cr-MSxKZnosNzcyMjcyMTEs and im not even going to question why it took him almost 3 days to check logs. He further explained that the reason it was metagame was because I stopped an rp scenario of an arrest because the black man who is ix-crazy-xi eluded to me giving him the gun on a different char (that same char is pk'd and deleted) and if I had pursued an arrest then the gun would have come back to Alfonso Varese which would lead to a warrant on myself. That's saying if I even wanted to pursue a warrant to be begin with and throughout being a member of PD I rarely do unless the person in possession of the illegal firearm is going into court. Yes I do know ix-crazy OOC'ly as he is a friend of mine, but Byte assumed that I was enacting a legitimate firearms license check when in reality I did not want to pursue anything from the beginning. I was merely breaking balls since I knew he 100% did not have a license and neither could he afford it. The way that I insinuated that it was not a real stop was by giving the fake callout "black nigger with a gun" and then once he said "Do you want to see were I got it from" I played along and left him alone. If it had been a real rp scenario he would have just shot me or I would have immediately drawn my gun and pointed it at him as I do with multiple same case scenarios especially since he was masked up and actively brandishing the scorpion. Even if I had arrested him and pulled finger prints from the gun, I do not understand how I would be able to charge myself with the crime of possessing an illegal firearm because I think it would have been voided by conflict of interest and power game. Even if I'm found to be in the wrong the ban length being permanent for something so small and no one getting hurt is an over reaction and byte knows it. Especially since he didn't even bother immediately acting upon it once the ticket was made and instead waiting 3 days to look at logs. Additional Information (images, videos, etc): There is not much more for me to say other than the ban on ix-crazy was not necessary either.