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Gambling is bad for you.

Good luck to anyone trying to start up a new character

It isnt considered a Fail Mug. It's just not a smart thing to do. If you try to put someone under FearRP while they're already holding a gun in their hand (even with the safety), FearRP doesn't apply to them. That means they can attempt to defend themselves without the risk of being PK'd. However, if they manage to kill the muggers, the muggers will be PK'd. So while it's definitely a risky and unwise mug attempt, BUT it isn't a Fail Mug. Short answer to the question in the topic is No. If someone tries to apply FearRP on you while you already have a gun in your hand and attempts to mug you, you are allowed to defend yourself without the risk of being PK’d. However, if you manage to kill the attackers while doing so, they will be PK’d.

I never denied any of the points you made. The issue is that, according to the RP rules, the fact that the guy's intentions may have been obvious doesn't change anything. He had the right to make the first move, and you can't kill someone based on what you think they're about to do. For you to legally kill someone, they need to give you a reason by becoming an Active threat. The fact that he would most likely have tried to kill you doesn't give you the right to kill him before he actually attempts anything.

The rules are public access are y'all illiterate?

Just read the pk mug rules it explains lt pretty well. But basically to answer your question no if you have your gun out on safety or in general before the person tries to initiate the mug it's considered a fail mug. However if you are already at gun point you risk yourself being pked as you're attempting to break the fearrp by fighting back. Also if they look away or stop pointing their guns at you, you can fight back without fear of being pked.

I swear someone needs to create a simplified how to not get your shit ganked Guide

Having your gun off safety and pointed at somebody with clear intent to use it is not an idle threat (especially after your friend dying) Do you think he took it off safety and pointed it because it looked cool? Or he was going to give us a strongly worded message on why that was wrong? Yeah come on don't be retarded, he was going to try and kill us lol.

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I understand all that. The point is that, in a situation like that, the guy you killed had the right to make the first move. Just because he was holding a gun with the safety on doesn't automatically mean he was going to try to kill both of you. You never gave him a chance to escalate the situation or do anything at all. You killed him because your friend had just killed his friend, and you assumed he was about to shoot both of you. The problem is that you can't know that for sure. At the moment you killed him, he was an Idle threat, not an Active threat. That's exactly why multiple staff members ruled it as RDM.

Shooting somebody who had their gun aimed at an ally is NOT RDM, regardless of what Tim did or did not do. Your associates got floored!, I apologize! But he shouldn't be aiming firearms at people if they don't want to be shot.

Weapon aimed from the POV of the only guy matador shot https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mU8pSb4fKoI0CpY7l

Bro, he was just explaining the same thing I already said. Tim Burr got unbanned because the staff member who banned him didn't realize he had already been noted by Monaclu for the exact same incident. You didn't get unbanned because it was RDM and you had prior offenses for RDM. You keep messing with people, take this as a lesson!! and stop annoying everyone. bro!!!!! Good luck with your appeal though. I need you back, its boring as hell without your stupid ass around +1

I was seen using a dance animation before opening fire? You don't even have the right guy, that was Tim doing that, not me.

(I bet he didn’t make the support ticket)

Hello banning staff here, After reviewing the footage, I believe the ban on Matador was justified. The appeal claims the shooting was done in defense of an ally. However, the footage shows that the players who were shot had not escalated the situation to a level that justified lethal force. While there was a verbal confrontation and firearms were visible, neither player was actively threatening Matador or Tim Burr at the moment shots were fired. No punches were thrown, no weapons were aimed, and no shots had been fired. Additionally, Matador is seen taking his weapon off safety while using a dance animation before opening fire. Whether intentional or not, this concealed the animation from nearby players and allowed him to get the jump on the individuals he ultimately shot. As for Tim Burr, his ban was removed after I realized I had relied on a note that was tied to this same incident. Since Tim Burr did not have prior offenses, there was no basis to maintain his ban. Matador, however, had a prior Slight RDM note, which was considered when determining punishment severity. Based on the footage, the lack of sufficient escalation from the players who were shot, and Matador's prior history, I stand by the original ruling.

This has been the only situation from yesterday, LOL.

Shy is the banning staff member. Different incident than the one I reviewed.

I've been told this is actually a *second* situation with you guys, so who knows. Apparently you all were on some fuck shit last night or something.

Nigga did get banned and then unbanned, where the hell is my unban

Well I can give part 1. User made ticket to report you two for RDM. Had the shortest clip ever, showed just like a gun on safety and a countdown, and someone got out and shot him. I told user "Hey lets make sure we're following escalation rules. i.e. when you threaten an individual with a gun you have to point it. Obviously you didnt shoot him, so not serious." Told other user "Let's make sure we're waiting till they point the gun to take a shot at them, and dont be dancing to prevent them from seeing you pull your gun" (It was tim burr) I was not made aware of the larger firefight or given any further information Later, Greenghost stated that he had a new clip and asked if it was "Handled". I said I wasn't aware of a longer, fuller clip, and that he should assess the situation himself with the new information and make a ruling. He did so, which led to your ban. P.S. "Why didnt my friend also get banned" Dry snitch ass nigga

They are my Serbian brothers, they have actually messaged me asking me about conflict their 3rd friend Mare said but I wasn't home at that time to respond, after I came home and I found out I called them on Discord and they explained everything that the 3rd guy that was in Kosher lied about a war or conflict idk and when he shoot they shoot too. I can assure you that they won't do such a thing again give them another chance if they do it which I am sure they won't don't ever give them a chance again appealing won't work for them anymore. +1

Hello, As you can see Yuki did very clear and extensive research trying to give you leeway before you were banned, the provided documentation is as clear as possible; There was no way you could "hear" your friend from that far a distance. Looking at the clips there is also no way to tell that he was your friend since he was in no clothing that could've made him easier to identify. Yuki was gracious enough to allow you to try to give a reasonable explanation but you were unable to give one. Being stated, the reasons for the ban are valid. If you don't want to be banned for violations of the rules its simple, just don't break the rules. If you cant do the time. Don't do the crime. Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Hello, As you can see Yuki did very clear and extensive research trying to give you leeway before you were banned, the provided documentation is as clear as possible; There was no way your friend could of heard you from where he was. Additionally being a white shirt would of made it impossible to tell it was him from afar. Yuki was gracious enough to allow you to try to give a reasonable explanation but you were unable to give one. Being stated, the reasons for the ban are valid. If you don't want to be banned for violations of the rules its simple, just don't break the rules. If you cant do the time. Don't do the crime. Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Your ban record is quite extensive and I don't feel comfortable with giving you another chance sans conditions. Please make a support ticket to discuss this further.