RealLaCreatura

In the middle of a gunfight?

Hi, I'm one of the officers you shot. An arrest being made on you unlawfully (As in my clip; Do not arrest him we do not have probable cause.) is an IC issue! You should've made an IA report instead of shooting a cop! Me fumbling with my keyboard "*@ VCWP Pk*" and my superior officer telling me to clip it for a ticket, Doesn't invalidate the PK due to it being training for a new probie (Alfredo explained that I'd need it for a ticket), and a typo in my haste to make a (my very first) coroner's ticket! I had just got out of a gunfight with you and was rushing to make the ticket. I utilized reasonable force after you engaged me with your PM9 as in the clip, and you were PKed on the grounds of VCWP (Violent Confrontation With Police), because you hospitalized a police officer with a firearm, you then got gunned down by the other five officers, causing your death and subsequent PK. TLDR: You were actively involved in a VCWP and lost. Neither of these were OOC in nature, as stated in PK rules "Initiating a shootout or violent confrontation with Police can lead to a PK. Killing or attacking an Officer after initiating a violent confrontation leaves you PK active from officers for about 15 minutes. Generally we want people to not immediately go for the gun when dealing with Police, as a result if you escalate a situation to a shootout and lose you can be punished via PK as your character was killed. This does not apply if it is the Police that fired first or escalated to a shootout." Both clips utilized in this situation provided. You seemed to "Not care" about the PK, but have gone to the lengths of appealing and getting salty OOC! :C Best of luck on your appeal friend!~ [LOOC] Fagurt "Pantyhose" Wopkilar: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/neKSUtiNRQEJ5-si0?invite=cr-MSxIa24sMTQ1MDkzODgy (Deleted, Shows him engaging PD with his PM9 after an officer tells him to "Stop moving, and that he's being detained") [LOOC] Probationary Officer Erik Henderson: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/neK6FfzD0JOC00ug_?invite=cr-MSxjWW8sMjUwMzU5MTAz

Exactly. "I AM A BIG FUCKING MUGGING TARGET MUG ME MUG ME" isn't fun. Leaving rockefeller as a rockefeller just means someone might mug you. You also are missing out on money. If there was a REASON to be a citizen or anything but a criminal it'd be cool, but frankly theres no reason to waste your time on any of the current legal jobs. Pendred wanted to bring back the original system of ordering food and bringing it to your business, no reason to have a business that orders shipments when an NPC could do that.

Youre a nerd for cheating. Go outside.

Every business being owned by a criminal faction doesn't necessarily make sense to me but it's mafia rp, not cityrp, Cool ideas but doubtfully added.

While i advocate for more legal (and just shit to do in general) for diverge (because criminals are only criminals if theres citizens not committing crimes), rockefeller and BNS are prime examples of why shit like that doesn't work and likely won't be added by the big pen or canadian. The legal businesses all turn into alt chars people hop on when called (or when their friend asks them to get on).

Let me make a meme be right back.

SOP states "A reasonable attempt at arrest" afaik... Could use your baton or just taze them when they come up for air.

It is a PK. Any death while trying to escape is a PK. Drowning etc.

HE FUCKING GETS IT

Why are retards always the first ones to get PK'd out of a faction, just to go join PD? I know people like Drakarus come to mind, atleast for me. Who immediately ran to the forums multiple times because of his PK out of jews, Billy bob too after his PK out of colombos, Who else? Why do they immediately rush to PD?

once every other year

Remove the inactive factions please. I know for a fact wrights, Rudaj, and (MAYBE) a few others are inactive as fuck and don't deserve to stay when theres people waiting. All respect to the don

"Oliver kirk" was your identifier on a server, I SAW the ticket AND our mutual servers before you left. You are genuinely a LOLCOW and are forever going to be known as that shit bro

Imagine being mad someone called you by what you named your character. I don't know if you were with a faction but they dodged a bullet if you were.

On one hand, leaving when you get 3000 pings is valid On the other hand, stop using your real name as a character and being a crybaby bitch.

how did he know...

Honestly could be smth you could buy property wise. I wouldn't be opposed

I didn't state the point clearly enough and mixed in my opinion with it, so you might have missed the point I was trying to suggest. Which is just 'clarify the rules for coups", Giving a small cushion for random players who are in every other manner said to have no stake in a faction is more or less just my opinion and frankly doesn't undermine the original point of clarification simply for nothing other than moderation and being able to do shit properly in order to prevent flubs/fuck ups due to a fella doing smth wrong., it's also not me saying "lalalala no lying lalala hugbox coup bad mafia bad NO roleplay!!!" of course, it's the mafia, people lie, people do XYZ, i'm not gonna act like people haven't snaked before and will snake again. But atleast a guideline of things should be fine, Unless I'm missing some sort of ancient forum post then theres really no guidelines except those listed previous. If Wars get their own spot, Coups should to, in just as much detail. since wars and coups happen alot. afaik clarifying the rules for something that can permanently shift the server, cannot be that controversial. Maybe it's the opinions I hold.

Coups are a thing that have been happening quite often recently in Diverge. While I have never been PK'd during a coup, it seems atleast to me intensely unfair for players who have no stake, nor a side in a coup, to be PK'd before being even given a chance to pick a side. I suggest a few things for coups Elaboration on the rules. The forums are very unclear on the matter, Coup rules, atleast in my opinion, need clarity and their own section in conflict escalation or the PK guidelines, as there are many situations where during a coup a player might break a rule and invalidate a PK in the same way one might muck up a mugging by doing something wrong or get banned. Thus invalidating effort and nearly getting themself killed/banned for nothing. Things like "Reasonable doubt that a player is a couper/loyalist" should be introduced during coups, Making coup rules clearer, Not to initiate a coup. but what happens during a coup since the only real 'rules' of a coup are as follows: "● You must have more than half of your faction's high command support to overthrow your current leader. ● Once you've made your move against your don the rest of the faction may choose a side, this can plunge the faction into civil war ● The civil war ends when one side concedes or is wiped out. ● These PKs still need pre-approval [Make a SUPPORT ticket in the main discord] (THIS one is incredibly vague/not feasible, as you can't really stop and make a ticket when people are actively hunting you, or while you are actively hunting someone.)" (ADDITION) Rank Anyone below the rank of made is made exempt from being PK'd until they have publicly picked a side with staff or their leadership (since this is the first action people typically take during a coup.) or have stayed totally neutral (exempting them from PKing, or being PK'd by their family), They're Associates and as such don't have a stake in faction leadership (Same rules as leaving the family in PK rules. ) and it'd be unfair to an associate of a faction to be PK'd out of a faction due to something they had no say, nor control over. ● If they have left the gang/family without approval from the leader, while holding the position of made man+ (or appropriate equivalent), they may be subject to a PK. Entry level associates who are not made or deeply committed to the organization may leave without harm as their position is low and they know very little. (Security, waiters, doormen, drivers, etc) <You will be asked to provide evidence of rank> This does not apply if they have partaken in felony criminal actions, drug manufacturing/murder/robbery/etc that are directly related to your faction. (However these actions must be verified). Generally under most don's orders. (ADDITION) Racket Racket should be closed during Coups, simply due to the connections that ICLY supply you not wanting to be involved, similar to wars, Etc. Coups are potentially largescale and or have massive backings, even by other factions, they should be supplying you instead of your racket. Simply for RP purposes if not for making it so coups are a last resort. Thank you for listening to my ted talk.

+1, I am also in this war. You should NOT be PK'd simply for logging in when you have no stake nor care in the coup. I hope they unPK you slime.

fair tbh.

he has priors on diverge with cheating. this makes twice twin... Idk, he had to be caught somehow in order to be banned, waiting 4 admin to say why they banned tthem

Just pay the toll.

+1 im totally not biased.