4Lights

After talking with the staff member involved, this was a mistake by the banning staff. Sometimes mistakes happen, people lie and I am truly sorry any inconvenience, this ban will be lifted shortly.

I always thought the ingame pager item had a lot of potential but is weighed down by a big factor, the pager being directly tied to character ID's, I think this inherently made a lot of people distrust the use of the pagers, there's potential to metagame(cops use the same char id for ssn), there's a perceived risk potential, anyone could do /copyid to find the person. With the ability to arrange meeting and the like through discord, this made the use of the pager largely irrelevant. Suggestions to improve: 1. Add assignable usernames: This will keep the pagers anonymous and will allow those in criminal RP to communicate and establish presence. I think many would likely be more willing to give their usernames to other factions. Has the potential for capos to arrange crew deals with each other or even as a more reliable way of selling clothing. ( Possibly add a cost for the username to avoid abuse. ) 2. Illegal Bulletins: With the ability to assign a username to a pager will allow advertisements to a specific person, or a potential 'company', copying the existing bulletin board system for use in the illegal market, could foster many transactions, with the perceived anonymity. IMO would drive many to the use of pagers. ( I think a conversation would need to be had for detective purposes, as it'd be very easy for detectives to copy paste all data from these bulletins on a daily basis, effectively renderings them pointless, as people will distrust them immediately mitigating any potential for adoptation. ) ( On a side note, it's possible you could allow messages to be sent and received on discord though this system, allowing everything to be full monitored and IC. Allowing for a potential for any IC conversation to be needing to be sent through this system. )

You admit that you did the crime and that you got killed? 'I robbed the bank but you can't get me because I didn't put the dollar sign on the bag'. When I said unrelated, it meant unrelated to the direct roleplay situation of you stealing and getting killed. You had respawned, you were outside the roleplay scene that had just ended, him and you talking there, would not interfere with any active roleplay scene, or interfere with anyone's immediate immersion in any roleplay scenes, which from my understanding is the intent of the rule. He was saying what he was going to do and if you didn't want him to press the PK, he just wanted the stuff back, is there some NLR concerns sure, but he did not act on anything, he did not attempt to roleplay anything. Which again, the offer, would likely be welcomed by the majority of the people not trying to skirt on a technicality. You then immediately transferred the shirt to a third party, indicating to me, that the shirt was worth more to you than the character. As I stated again, "may void the pk entirely" I did not feel that the "may" should be applied in this situation, I am not rewording any rule or inherently changing anything. I have stated my outlook and my reasoning for my decision. We are arguing in circles and I'd rather not continue to do so, as this boils down to me not believing a void should be applicable for this situation and you believing a void to be applicable. As previously stated a higher staff will rule on this and when they do, they will explain their reasoning to do so.

Hi PKIng staff here. You clearly admitted to the theft and the death in the sit. You stole in excess of $10,000 and died not 20 second after the initial theft, as I explained in the sit. The rule you are quoting " Key here being MAY void the PK, and under my discretion I did not believe someone going and trying to offer you a way out of the PK in return for the items back. Was a situation that would inherently void the PK situation. You seemingly knew exactly, that your actions would lead to a PK and did not dispute the actions themselves, only the technicality; which albeit has some fail-rp/NLR, I consider this more of in a minor nature, and would more or less be welcome by a lot of the people in a similar situation. There is always a difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, this circumstance I believe my discretion, to be correct. I do not believe you should be unpked, as you clearly knew the situation you put yourself in would lead you to a PK. This video, where he offers 'get pked or gimmie stuff back' happened after you had died, after you had respawned and was unrelated to the death/pk itself. I don't think the spirit of the rule is intended to punish those trying to offer a break to others, and would set a terrible precedent moving forward. Again, I apologise it sucks to lose a character, but we are at a disagreement here, hopefully a higher staff can take a closer look and make the appropriate decision.

-1 low effort

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

So the date and time on that log is incorrect, so what you posted has no bearing. Typically a crash will appear differently in server logs, however your logs show 'Disconnected by user', and then reconnecting 13 minutes later, after which the RP scene had ended, thus LTARP or Leaving to avoid role play. Further, you disconnected less that 30 seconds after being cuffed, If this was a legitimate crash, unfortunately, we do not have sufficient evidence to substantiate your claim. If this happens in future, please contact staff and/or the officer involved in the arrest directly and explain the situation, so that the officer/staff can resume the roleplay scene, once you are able to rejoin. I apologise, but unfortunately I will be denying this appeal.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

You and your friends admit the intent was to slide on him, the video does not play in your favour. You simply put a gun on safety and at the moment he ask for your ID- you shoot him. From your prior interactions, I believe this was your intent the entire time, which is the definition of cop and rdm baiting. I believe one day is more than a fair punishment in this context and you are lucky to have not gotten more. Just because you have an illegal firearm and you CAN kill police in circumstances that may lead to FELONY charges, doesn't mean you should be deliberately looking and going into those circumstances to do so. I apologise but you will have to wait the full-day.

Sydarin Matrix

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. The ban will be lifted from your account shortly. If it was deemed an invalid ban, it will also be removed from your record.

It is difficult to completely understand the context of what happened here, the clip being deleted is suspicious but doesn't prove any mal-intent. It would appear from what you said and what jacob said that this wouldn't be RDM under killing rule #5, as if an attempted mugging took place, and they walked back a few minutes later and got shot, it is quite reasonable that someone would be shot. You may kill in self defence or in defence of your partners/faction/property. When you've been attacked by an aggressor and survive (you did not aggravate or bait them to hit you) you may return with a weapon to kill them -If someone has committed an offense against you (Act of violence, mugging, etc) you may recognize them based on their voice, character descriptions and clothing for up to 30 minutes afterwards (Without having their F3). Players may change clothes or lay low during this time to avoid recognition.

Hi there PKing staff, I received a ticket for don's orders and dons orders were carried out. the reasons listed were breaking protocol, causing issues within the family, insulting allies and compromising security.

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+1 good guy, never had any issues or anything bad to say about him.

+1 this guy is real dedicated to running fun events and I think he'd make a great leader

+1 they seem to have a good base of players already

1. You were talking mad shit about Diverge. Cassanos moved to fivem and I suspect only reason you want to come back is because you think Cassano's are gonna be accepted. 2. You were banned for it, so I'm guessing your defense of 'it was not an alt-mugging character was inadequate', considering you were clearly using the char to settle another chars beef. 3. The timeline was literally when Hylix was about to do it's "first launch" and was in beta, and anyone with the 'beta' password ( you could get from their dicord ) could enter and was averaging about 50 people at peak times and I remember you specifically being a fervent supporter of hylix, going out of your way to say how much better it was going to be. " who doesn't contribute to the community or roleplay and just wants to inflict harm, for no other reason than being a spiteful dog" " And when they inevitably come crawling back, there will be not be another chance. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." ~ Pendred https://divergenetworks.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=6850 ( Good luck buddy. )

hylix is gonna be such a better server guys! I can't wait! You made a char explicitly for mugging, got them into an 'allied faction' and did so deliberately to settle OOC beef and to cause discontent while preaching how much better Hylix was going to be.

+1 morty

+1 he was cleaning up his act, got caught in an unfortunate circumstance to be banned again, he had recently become a lawyer and was taking the game a lot more serious than ever had. He just wants to come back to be part of the community and play with his friends again

Hello, I am the PKing admin, I answered a ticket and you had signed the plea deal which under server rules 45 years or longer is an automatic PK. I processed your PK as such. From what you described happening to me in the sit ( essentially killing a punch minge ) I did think the charges were high, however I did think that was primarily an IC issue and not something I could rule on OOCly, If you think it was stacked for the purposes to PK you, maybe a higher staff can take a look.

+1 definitely has the chops

Hi I was the one responsible for your PK, you were PK'ed after issuing orders for an individual, who then told the person who you wanted dead. They then proceeded to kill you at a later time, ( several hour later ), triggering an auto-pk. I cannot comment otherwise on the meta-game, but yes the two individual responsible were permanently banned for meta-game amongst other things, and yes the other diamond member's PK was revoked after they PKed them, for similar reasons.