Leaderboard

Hey I just want to tell you to read my appeal again, I've said that I didn't have intention to RP at first but I met a guy from Supreme Team that's from Serbia and he explained to me everything what to do and what not to do and I've listened to him and started playing like every other person, and our friend Mare has the grudge against Kosher Nostra, my char isn't PKed by the Jews it was PKed by Cops because I didn't care about the char anymore I wanted it deleted so I could join Supreme. And we really do apologize and we can tell you that this stuff won't happen again.

Name of Character: Baron Nikolai Robert Freiherr von Ungern-Sternberg Character ID: didn't have the chance to check wills alive SteamID:76561199579974825 Your Discord ID:1163886299388858429 Date of PK: Monday June 15th 1990 Reason for PK: killed by a random guy on a rooftop will walking on the street under Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: the reason is rdm, I had no affiliation with the guy and killed for no apperant reason If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: here you go https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mUZUL7i8E_iG0gut6?invite=cr-MSxaMlUsMzIyMDc2MjU2&v=40

Misuse of the term failmug. A fail mug is that the circumstances surrounding what is needed to perform a valid mug must be met. If the conditions are not met then the initiation of the mug is fail and by nature a violation. However, sometimes people use the term 'Failmug' to refer to whenever a mug goes wrong and the muggers 'fails' their objective. (Mugging) It's like people confusing LTARP and LTAP. It's all terminology based.

no? Its basic logic animation gets interrupted boom body disappears

What dingus said, i'll just take the 30 years thank you very much and never talk to me again

I agree with Revamped. Sure, probation and parole may look appealing on paper, but at the end of the day you are making more players do more work for an outcome that may not be worth that time or effort. “Hello I’m in jail for 30 minutes, can I be released on parole after 10 minutes?” “Sure, but we have to schedule weekly checkups to make sure you’re doing good otherwise we’ll send you back to prison for maybe 40 minutes.” At that point just sit there for the full 30 minutes and get some lunch or dinner or take a shit. However, that isn’t to say that I’m against other sentencing alternatives in general. We are actually working on a Bill for exactly that. The difference is these alternatives will be considered and imposed by a judge (already their job!) and probably won’t have any lingering work to do afterwards. There are lots of technical and small details to consider, especially reworking the entire “reoffenders clause”, but that’s the general gist of it.

Hi This is actually your 8th overall LTARP offense, which is honestly impressive and how you ended up with only 3d on your ban, I don't know - lucky! Jennay is correct, you left to avoid the situation. You were baited by Detectives into turning up to a phony hit/gun deal, and upon realizing this you disconnected. This is blatantly Leaving To Avoid Roleplay. Furthermore, the rules state: that the "majority of the time common sense applies. Do not try to look for loopholes in the rules." - This is one of those cases. 15. Do not LTAP/LTARP. If you initiate an RP situation or are in an Admin sit you may be punished if you decide to leave the game/switch characters to avoid punishment/roleplay - as you can see LTARP is a much more general rule than you are trying to imply. Please read over the Server Rules properly before returning to the server. Have a good one.

Hi banning admin here- "I left BEFORE anything could have happened" You're admitting to leave to avoid something happening. That is LTARP which you know a lot about since you've been banned for it before. You where doing something illegal, you go to meet up with someone to do something illegal, you see the person that you're meeting is a detective so you disconnect to avoid any roleplay consequences. Good Luck.

what this command do is force the server to send a full update, your clothes are client side models idk what the alt e thing does, so idk what its doing to the client side models but looking at gamemodes\mafia_roleplay\plugins\bonemerge\cl_bonemerge.lua, it looks like PLUGIN:FullUpdate() is something that should be called after standing up also if you look at line 508, it's called every 60s, so maybe try redoing the bug, wait at least 60 seconds and see if it gets fixed what the fuck are you saying

Whoever edited this shit actually has brain damage.

Hilarious

Did you just AI reply to me

Mechanical standpoint it appears to be a end animation bug. It happens when a player is interrupted with sudden movement such as constant sitting down and getting up, car being removed, falling over hence why record 1 stop might stop it.

+1 free bro everyone can change especially in 3 years, just needs to be watched or encouraged to be positive by the people around him in his fac or the friends he still has here. we've definitely given worse people more chances

As a cop main, and someone who used to as a detective, before the uniform policy change. It was overpowered. I think the detectives should continue wearing traffic uniform. The guy who made this forum post already retired from the NYPD and lost interest. Deny this anyway. Boom roasted made the right call to restrict detectives. This is MAFIA RP, not cop rp. We are already given larger privileges. Burns and the detectives can suck up and wear their traffic uniforms. If they wanna go PC, then have an operation ready. Ok!

Or counter point, learn like everyone else and roleplay?

Having your gun off safety and pointed at somebody with clear intent to use it is not an idle threat (especially after your friend dying) Do you think he took it off safety and pointed it because it looked cool? Or he was going to give us a strongly worded message on why that was wrong? Yeah come on don't be retarded, he was going to try and kill us lol.

They are my Serbian brothers, they have actually messaged me asking me about conflict their 3rd friend Mare said but I wasn't home at that time to respond, after I came home and I found out I called them on Discord and they explained everything that the 3rd guy that was in Kosher lied about a war or conflict idk and when he shoot they shoot too. I can assure you that they won't do such a thing again give them another chance if they do it which I am sure they won't don't ever give them a chance again appealing won't work for them anymore. +1

Look, just because he has a PO doesnt mean he is going to cheat again. He was banned for being in a cheating Discord, but that doesnt necessarily mean he was cheating on "Diverge". Personally, I don't really care what he did on other servers what matters is whether he actually cheated here.

+1 TM learns the identity of the person WHILE they're tied up, no interaction, no description, no nothing and goes straight up and kills the first person he sees. I would quite literally punish the person who killed Bao for RDM . Complete BS PK.

rich maybe awesome not much strong doubtful

Yeah like it doesnt fit at all but would be fun so I have no idea what to think

Aslong as you have robes I’ll make a character for it, a cult would be really funny

Well with a bit more context, I don't believe you knowingly or immorally committed admin abuse. I do however believe at this time that you had insufficient evidence or reason to authorize the PK and were misinformed or misled by the member who ordered the HIT. Nothing personally against your competence or judgment. I just believe that you were misled and so you didn't have sufficient evidence to authorize. No big deal. I'll explain: I appreciate the response and opportunity to clarify, but I must respectfully and thoroughly dispute the validity of this PK. I was an original member of Sanzekai and, following that group’s disbandment, never joined, was never initiated into, nor invited by the faction Takahashi-Kai. After Sanzekai’s discord and faction closed, I was never added to or even contacted about the new group's discord, and thus have had zero communication with or knowledge of any new management, leadership, rules, or expectations. My only connection to Takahashi-Kai is an accidental technical placement—simply leftover from Sanzekai’s roster, not from any in-character recruitment or roleplay. The only possible way I can be in this faction is if Sanzekai's faction server file was recycled into an entirely new group (when it should have been demolished with Sanzekai's disband, starting a new faction from scratch). This, I believe to be a non-malicious server-side error that harmed my RP IC continuity. I have not been present for any meetings, have never visited the new faction’s locations, do not know their vendors or products, and have not been informed of any dues, obligations, or rules. It is impossible for me to be a “liability” to a group I have never even spoken to or been made aware of in any capacity. I have none of their info or "secrets". For further context, I once had a discord conversation during the closing stages of Sanzekai where new management brought up my inactivity, dues, and possible removal from the faction, as I was busy earning a doctorate in real life and couldn’t play much for a couple years. Rage and other high-ranking Sanzekai members told the new leaders that I was very busy IRL but was an original since spring 2021 and should be grandfathered in. They explicitly agreed to let me stay on the roster as an OG who only pops into town, with an understanding that I did not have the same tax requirements while inactive and that I was always welcomed back. I have only played 2 times briefly to reminisce and walk around town late at night for like 20-30 minutes since I noticed the map changed and I’m randomly in Takahashi-Kai, With Sanzekai gone and all those high-ranking members, including Rage, now gone as well, there is no fair IC continuity or expectation by which Takahashi could claim a legitimate PK reason against me. I do not know any current Takahashi management or have any connection to their operations. Another layer of complication is added where Diverge Networks does not have specific, detailed rules governing faction transitions or what happens when one faction dissolves and another takes over its infrastructure and member roster (consider this an opportunity to update/improve your server rules regarding faction disbands and transitions ). My search results online show various faction applications and one case where faction transfers caused technical "PK registration" issues, but no established protocol for member liability transfer from dissolved factions to successors. There are no rules requiring new leadership to honor previous agreements, notify members of faction changes, or establish how someone becomes officially "part of" a successor organization versus just being on an inherited roster. This regulatory gap actually strengthens my appeal argument because I cannot be held liable under faction rules I never agreed to, by leadership I never met, in an organization that I never officially joined due to the absence of proper succession protocols. Per the server rules, a valid PK must be based on “repeated… poor behaviour, misconduct, violation of your family rules or even blatant disrespect of made men in your organization… there has to be tangible damages, disrespecting someone once is not a reason to kill someone. This also means you cannot PK someone for mucking up JUST one time. Having continued issues or warnings about behaviour or disputes can cause escalation to a PK. (record the Warnings/encounters/transgressions need be (very important key evidence invalidating PK))” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). In my case, I have not received any warnings, and there is no documentation or record of repeated problematic behavior, damages, or disputes—because there have been none. My only absence was due to real-life reasons, openly discussed a year or so ago with previous leadership, and never addressed IC or OOC by anyone in Takahashi-Kai. I would like to see evidence (from he who ordered the hit) of old posts or records that indicate I was on their discord (Discord: .butface; I never was), or video/text/log evidence of warnings or attempt to rectify debt or liability (which should exist before the on-duty staff member approves a PK, so I expect they should be provided here in the report as the sole basis for evidence legitimizing the hit; there is none and that would be insufficient evidence at the very least making this a clear violation of DivergeNetworks PK rules and a mistrial). This guy is just a hater that I don’t know who was bored at 3am. Rules specify, “The order must be given in-game by the Don or trusted High Command member of the family… The person receiving the order must have the identity (f3) of whomever is giving the order, they need to know who their boss is, they can't receive an order from someone they don't know” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I had no in-game interaction, no opportunity for dialogue, no warning, and never even received a basic introduction from any current leadership. I was presented with no RP opportunity to amend, clarify, or officially leave, nor was I told of taxes or obligations—because I was never made aware or added to the new group’s infrastructure at all. How can I be held accountable for rules, policies, or debts I was never told about by a management team I neither know nor recognize? I am not theirs to “discipline” or PK. If taxes or participation truly mattered, the Don could and, per the rules, should have reached out IC to clarify, offer a way to pay or leave, or set expectations before even considering a PK (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). None of the classic, codified PK reasons—such as betrayal, snitching, repeated warnings, harm to the family, or disrupting RP continuity—apply in my case, nor are they documented. Instead, this action appears to be purely mechanical, rooted in auto-inheritance of Sanzekai records (server-side design/continuity error/non-optimal server file management), not in-character escalation, repeated damages, or any real dispute. The rules are clear that “a valid reason is required for all PK’s. A PK’s approval is entirely dependent on the reason given, if you give a weak reason such as ‘he disrespected me’ then your PK will not be approved” (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules). The policy is also clear about the “left faction” clause: it applies only if a made member actively leaves, is informed, and has a two-week window with a clear in-game reasoning and evidence; there must be RP continuity and sufficient cause (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I never received any communication IC or OOC offering a way to leave or clarify my position, and I did not even know that I was considered part of any “new” organization or was on any “list.” Additionally, the requirement is for “tangible damages, unwarranted harm in a financial (+10,000$) or repeated physical way,” not mere inactivity or tax owed when no opportunity to pay or even notification of dues was ever provided (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills). I was not actively participating, had no chance to respond, and the organization’s claim is based only on record-keeping rather than RP process. Bottom line: Punishing a character who did not join, was not inducted, never informed of expectations, and is accused of non-participation in a group he was never actually part of is fundamentally unfair—and strictly contrary to the letter and spirit of Diverge’s rules. There was no legitimate RP escalation, warning, or opportunity for me to amend or even understand any “liability.” If there is specific documentation of repeated harm or toxicity, please present it, as stipulated in the PK rules. Otherwise, this PK is baseless, rooted in poor faction and server management (no offense, not saying this angrily, only technically just as a responsible and fair business would run with standards and policies), purely technical inheritance, and not genuine character progression or IC realism. A bona fide PK must show documentation, RP engagement, clear reason, and an opportunity for the member to be involved in the resolution or removal, none of which were given here. I would actually like to request to see proof of liability, financial debt, or text,log, or video recorded evidence by the Don or high ranking members as an attempt to contact me and inform me of necessary work or debt IC. I think it's necessary evidence on the Don's part for PK and I know that it would not exist. I've only spent 45 minutes in town in the last year or so and was just about to try to start playing again and relearn the new locations and social networks/layouts of the server now that I have a little more stability and free-time IRL. If there is any actual record of warnings, damages, or in-character misconduct, They should be presented now, as your guidelines explicitly require. Otherwise, this PK is not valid under the codified Diverge Networks PK rules—specifically for family kills, liabilities, and faction transitions—and should respectfully be overturned. (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills; Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules.) This is why I respectfully request that the PK be overturned. If current management or the Don had any real concerns, they should have reached out IC with a clear chance for me to learn, pay, leave, or explain—just as would be expected in any well-run, fair RP environment. As it stands, this sets the wrong example for returning or inactive players and undermines faction and RP continuity on the server (Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: Family Member Kills; Permanent Kill Reasons & Rules: General PK Rules). This also encourages dropout from a user-design perspective: I wanted to start playing the character again but given the nature of having to relearn the new map and social networks, I'm not likely to start a new character on this server (especially on a 5 year old character with a decent item bank and especially when the PK was controversial; I don't even feel like my character died in RP, just basically got uninformedly minged by a player with a little bit of faction power who I did not even know; like that would lowkey be gay AF and such a lame, unwarranted, uninformed sendoff to Jimmy Hands' lore.). Also, if witnesses exist or the crime is too public, the staff may not consider it a valid or realistic RP scenario, and it could affect appeal reviews (PK rules open to interpretation puts me in the center of a public park with like 12 people standing around). While this is open to interpretation and not inherently invalidating. There weren't even any LEOS online and I was eating noodles IRL at 3am, about to log off and go to bed. there were only like 18 people online... like come onnn -_- you and I both see that. If I legitimately died from in game actions and was aware of a situation/beef that could possibly PK me.. like that's fun and fair RP. I would not complain, and I have endured many of those attempts/threats. This seems heavily disputable and kind of mingy and confusing for the one receiving the PK (me; you can see in the video i didn't even react angrily or verbally when I got PK'd just pure confusion). You should know why when you die or at least have some ideas. This just kinda feels like a slap in the face to OG characters who have supported the server and helped foster the community in the early days who wish to re-enter town and aren't doing anything to get PK'd. They couldn't have even like picked me up, talked to me, told me i was in trouble/to prepare for death like in a cool way so that I could at least clip Jimmy-Hands' demise in execution style. This was all done wrong. I would encourage and appreciate multiple staff members to hear my reasoning and judge for themselves, perhaps to cross examine and give fair trial.

fair tbh.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

They were taken away by request, surely. And the state money isn’t free, either, even in small increments.

It's all fun and games until you have to actually run this thing and have active people deal with it and do it in an unbiased way without ooc influence. Ask why we don't do elections anymore.

he lost it all

It isnt considered a Fail Mug. It's just not a smart thing to do. If you try to put someone under FearRP while they're already holding a gun in their hand (even with the safety), FearRP doesn't apply to them. That means they can attempt to defend themselves without the risk of being PK'd. However, if they manage to kill the muggers, the muggers will be PK'd. So while it's definitely a risky and unwise mug attempt, BUT it isn't a Fail Mug. Short answer to the question in the topic is No. If someone tries to apply FearRP on you while you already have a gun in your hand and attempts to mug you, you are allowed to defend yourself without the risk of being PK’d. However, if you manage to kill the attackers while doing so, they will be PK’d.

The rules are public access are y'all illiterate?

Live laugh love the hand of paimon

+1

Fat fuck you 500 pounds nigga stfu yellow teeth weirdo

I'm skeptical of putting a +1 in for this since I've seen togna's previous rp, but the idea itself is really fucking cool. Would be insane if yall added cool content for flavor.

Bro got couped and charge backed. Make a donation ticket and cough it up lil bro. -1

I get what you saying, but what i dontt understand is this after i switched everything about myself, how did they even figure out i was the one who mugged them? it had been hours since the situation, and I was in a completely different fit with a whole different playermodel. On top of that, i never used voice chat at all so taking all that into account, i really dont get how they managed to identify me IC EDIT: You still had the grey/white hair male09 model, with a gas mask on and a black bandanna on. After this you were set PK active to Popov This exactly what I’m tryna get at when they saw me i had my mugging fit on just like you said, mask on and all. After that I switched up everything, like everything, stayed low, and then 3 hours later I get identified and PK’d while I’m basically a whole different person? The reason i opened a ticket and asked Shauningt about it was to figure out if there was still any way for them to identify or hunt me. Based on the response I got, that’s apparently not even possible Also I wanna add this too, we killed the guy like 10–15 minutes before the incident, everything was within the rules, but he still got it comp'd and breaks the NLR rules because he was afk??? he literally came out of admin sit AND with the same weapon he got comp’d for, broke the NLR rules and came back to PK me??

Im not tryna find a loophole at all This is my fifth time getting PK’d, and its the first time Im actually appealing one with all due respect, in my opinion this whole PK situation is straight up bullshit Y’all are the ones who need to admit you took the L on that mugging lol you camped in front of Garrison for more than 2 hours just to PK me I didnt lose anything on my character that I actually care about anyway. Like I said, it’s just that this whole situation ending in a PK doesnt make ANY sense to me, and Im here to stand on that bro like tf?

Yeah because you're friend was warned for something else doesn't mean that's why you were PKed

Cool dude, That is not the reason you were pked, have a good night!

Honestly all jokes aside i agree with this, please make EU Times Even better for us, NO PD, ONLY CRIME!!!

-1 14 year old

multiple personality disorder RP

Hello, While I'm not the banning member of staff I assisted in making the final verdict on your ban. Whilst an active threat is cause for killing someone, the individual in question pulled out their gun, then proceeded to put it on safety leading to you shooting him and his friends including one who didn't even have a gun in hand. Whilst I understand attempting to defend yourself, there's a difference between defence and opening fire on a group of people for the fun of it because someone put their gun on safety and called you scum. Here are the rules mentioned. In regards to how a user is allowed to react to verbal threats. There are two types of threats, an 'Active Threat' and a 'Idle threat'. Users may kill for an active threat but they may not kill for an idle a threat. The difference between the two is situational but will always pertain to if the person making the threats has a weapon in their hand. For example, someone pointing a gun at you and threatening to kill you. This is an Active threat. Someone saying they will kill/beat you in an argument or conversation. (Unarmed, weapon on safety etc) that is an idle threat. You are allowed to react to an Active threat in that moment (Not later when the situation is over). On that note, considering you escalated to violence in his situation you'd be the "Aggressor". You may kill in self defence or in defence of your partners/faction/property (Must have F3). When you've been attacked by an aggressor and survive (you did not aggravate or bait them to hit you) you may return with a weapon to kill them. Which means there was no reasonable level of threat in terms of shooting he group on their business.. Please read the rules, as when there is conflict there will be more staff keeping tabs on you, and more reports. So ensure you're taking the necessary steps to roleplay correctly, and make tickets on people breaking the rules so we can handle it.

Free The Sack

It'd be kinda cool if instead of seeing what they were armed with weapon wise, or etc if all the body showed was Name: Cause of Death: Time of death: Then when killed a prop version of their weapon drops on the ground that acts like bullet casings, opening a while now level of RP when the cops come and collect it, possibly giving them the serial number, and then they can use a GSR kit to determine whether it was fired, it also wouldn't be bad to add more things that a hitman can look out for / RP with "You want So and So Dead?, I'll kill him and bring you his gun as proof." "I'll kill him and bring you his fingers as proof" etc. Might open the door to more RP, personally I think when chopping up a corpse you should also get hands, and have the ability to cut off fingers to send a message to people, this is Mafia RP After all

Thank you for applying to the Diverge Networks staff team! It is my pleasure to inform you that your application has been accepted. Submit a ticket on our Discord for training and to get setup.

Make the ticket.

Your Character or Steam Name: Jason Jackson(name of character), Deadkiller (Steam Name) Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): https://steamcommunity.com/id/593703264/ Your Discord ID#: davemaio6454 Reason for ban: LTARP POx4 Length of ban: 2days Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): both Why should you be unbanned? First of all, the reason why i got banned was because i left the game when i met the detective (LTARP), cause i made an advert if anyone needed an mercenary (me) but i needed a weapon. Anyway the reason i should be unbanned its because i Left the server BEFORE anything could've happened in that moment. As it can be read in rules, it would've been LTARP if i quit the game While i was arrested or being tased, which it didnt happened. Additional Information (images, videos, etc): put in the comments

Bro you litterally just said what I said . Its a fail mug in the sense that the mugger is at risk of being pked and not the person being mugged.