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Hi, With things like this it is often a case-by-case. With this one, it would seem fair to me to say that the TM did not necessarily invite conflict in the first place. The conflict begins with the gun pointing, which was minor, but worth bringing up in RP. He does so, and I would imagine had the other player simply walked off, the situation would have ended at that. Instead the verbal disrespect and further conflict ensues which is then followed by physical melee'ing and an eventual shootout. This is somewhat commonplace in the server. I will mention though that the repeated forcing open of the door is not really acceptable behavior here. In many cases, that could be seen as RDM baiting. With the prior context though, which makes the initial intent of the TM clear in my eyes, it's not a massive game changer. This previously mentioned rule was brought up without mentioning the final line: However if someone continues to disrespect you, you may physically intimidate or hit them. (Fists, melee weapon) As continued disrespect could realistically start a fight. The user then has free choice on how to respond/retaliate. If they choose to flee you may not kill them. There have been a few other relevant rules thrown around in the thread so far, but I would point both involved players to these rules, also: (Disclaimer: Initiating arguments just to attack someone when they return your insults or taking any comment as an insult and immediately escalating to hitting them can be considered baiting as proper escalation / the spirit of the rule is not being followed) and Generally you shouldn't invite conflict then try to hide behind the rules when you're killed. This can also be considered baiting as described under killing rule 6. Intentionally instigating someone or goad them into breaking a rule. Both players invite conflict in different ways throughout this situation though, and overall it feels fairly balanced. Could the TM have done better? Yes, but the other player could also have simply apologized for pointing his gun, or walked into his property without comment. With all of this in mind, it seems like naturally occurring player conflict and I don't believe a ban was necessary for this, thus the ban will be lifted shortly. I'd recommend everyone involved scrubs up on the killing and escalation rules anyway, for good measure.

plz unban me

Name of Faction: Cartel de Caballero Number of Members (Minimum of 5): 42 Type Of Faction (Family, Triad, Street Gang, etc): Cartel Ethnic Background (ex: Italian, Greek, African American, Irish, etc): Cuban/Hispanic Name of Character running the faction: Carlos Caballero Your Discord # (ex: gamer#4210): vaffancul Your SteamID: 76561199153198440 Your Server playtime: 2mo 4w 2d Do you acknowledge and agree to all faction rules as detailed on the server rules page? (Yes/No): Yes Do you acknowledge that your faction discord will be owned by us? (Yes/No): Yes Provide an example of the unique Roleplay your faction will bring to the server/what type of roleplay we can expect from your faction (Images/Videos Preferred): We're aiming to heavily incorporate Hispanic culture into our RP by running several food trucks that sell traditional Cuban food. In the future, we plan to get our own Cuban cigars added which ties into our backstory as former tobacco smugglers. We also plan to eventually run a Cuban/Hispanic style restaurant. Most cartels uphold a reputation for their public acts of violence, where we are going to take it to a more hidden and professional place. Instead of dressing like some thugs, our guys will present themselves as serious, legitimate businessmen. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qQUfVFqBn32N0XOuniL-DmwURz9SmQsWEzpKL7C93g/edit?usp=sharing Provide examples or event ideas to promote activity within your faction and keep people interested. (Reference your unique RP from the question above): To keep people interested, we will host block party style fiestas where our (or other peoples) food trucks can be utilized. We plan on frequently hosting events on the weekend where we take many of our members to eat/party at other factions establishments, giving multiple factions opportunity to RP. Organization Backstory (Min. of 250+ Words & any images): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nQXTAeW0T0zrhx-Nmee8hDEQmhmYjxNHiOH4GhwKbQ8/edit?usp=sharing

Name of Character: Snibble/Tommy Brown Character ID: SteamID: 76561199576302526 Your Discord ID#: 754422012826353706 Date of PK: Death 17: 16:47 UTC - 16/06/2026 - Reason for PK: I was asked by a faction member to follow them and give them 90650$ for a big deal in-game.When i droped the money i was PK'd. Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: I think i should be unPK'd, because i did no harm to the faction never brought heat to the faction and never snitched on the faction. Pk rule violated: The person receiving the order must have the identity (f3) of whomever is giving the order. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: Unfortunately i do not have a clip therefore i can go by the rules - You were slained by 194728 [194728] The order must be given in-game by the Don or trusted High Command member of the family. The person receiving the order must have the identity (f3) of whomever is giving the order, they need to know who their boss is, they can't receive an order from someone they don't know. The person in question, has repeatedly done something to directly harm you, the family, or another member of the family. Unwarranted Harm in a financial (+10,000$) or repeated physical way, there has to be tangible damages, disrespecting someone once is not a reason to kill someone. This also means you cannot PK someone for mucking up JUST one time. Having continued issues or warnings about behaviour or disputes can cause escalation to a PK.

Hello, The VDM was not the reason behind your death, unfortunately that was its own different situation and should be handled as such. The instance for the alleged RDM as explained above was you being PK'd by the faction you were apart of, while i understand this might initially seem to be RDM i can assure you that it is not. This is simply just consequences for what your character IC. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hello, The responding staff has provided you with valid evidence that can be used in an instance such as this, joining factions are always at your own risk. If you get caught doing something such as aiding the cops with any information that you may know is probably cause for factions to give orders on your character. Please make sure you pay attention to the first prompt that appears when you first join a faction.

ive never seen so much effort for a 1day wowsa

Hi Tommy im the one who wrote the orders as it was brought to my attention that you as a felon had been arming whiteshirts who didn't have the proper licensing. Along with being arrested in your company suit multiple times after being told not to draw attention to yourself when wearing the company suit. When you joined the faction you accepted the risk of potentially being pked for violating Faction rules. The main reason you were deemed a liability was your willingness to arm whiteshirts who had been turned away for not having a gun license. When it comes to the Factions gun racket any potential liability gets dealt with asap as its the biggest legal source of income for the faction and anyone getting caught selling our firearms illegally can put the store at risk of being fined heavily or shutdown. Hope this clears things up for you and best of luck on your future endeavors.

Hello! Admin who set you active here, You were killed for bringing heat to Takahashi with multiple arrests, selling firearms without the proper licensure and being an overall liability. As criminal, since you ordered drugs you accept the risk of being pk'd by joining a criminal organization!

so can i get unbanned i just want to play and have fun?

Seems like you've been banned for 4 years. There was also ban evasion attempts at the time.

Hey @ayokool, I was the staff member that set you PK active. The true reason for your character's PK was that a hit was placed on you by the orders of Kosher Nostra command. The reasons behind the orders are speaking to cops and answering questions without a family lawyer present, which can leave room for suspicion of you being a snitch/informant. The second reason is calling the police on allied factions, for example, Bruno-Scarfo which can fall under breaking alliance rules or faction rules.

Hello, PKing Admin here. The reason behind your PK is that you were observed by one of your fellow faction members entering the Police Department and speaking with a detective regarding Kosher. The faction member reported this information to your faction’s High Command. After reviewing the situation, your faction leadership contacted Kosher and authorized them to carry out the PK based on the belief that you were acting as an informant to the Police Department. snitchin ass boy - Clipped Garry's Mod with Medal.tv

what this command do is force the server to send a full update, your clothes are client side models idk what the alt e thing does, so idk what its doing to the client side models but looking at gamemodes\mafia_roleplay\plugins\bonemerge\cl_bonemerge.lua, it looks like PLUGIN:FullUpdate() is something that should be called after standing up also if you look at line 508, it's called every 60s, so maybe try redoing the bug, wait at least 60 seconds and see if it gets fixed what the fuck are you saying

Whoever edited this shit actually has brain damage.

Did you just AI reply to me

maybe it was a addon issue with mine, I’m closing this post

he lost it all

That's just blatant corruption and not how warrants work at all. If you have a document with the listed charges and it's signed by a judge, you'd need a entirely new document with the new charge added otherwise it's illegal and abuse of the system lmao.

That's what the Boxing gloves do, I don't think it'd be a good idea since it would mostly be abused by minges or muggers to knock people out.

this is already a thing, you must have boxing gloves in order for it to work

Easiest way is to sit down and stand up. Especially quickly. Everything disappears but the player’s head.

This does not fix it. The bug still occurs. I always do this command when logging in for a sesh.

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

I just saw this and um bro the guy gave him no warning to stop what he was doing with the door also bottom shotta gambino what if he ended up killin andy what then?

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

With all due respect, this is completely wrong. As I said, I was minding my own business and walking towards Little Italy through the alleyway. The guy next to me saw me coming out of there, pulled out his weapon and aimed it at me. After that, I interacted with him and he repeatedly insulted, disrespected, and threatened me. After that situation, if I had just turned around and walked away without responding, I would have looked like a BITCH so instead I tried to escalate the situation in accordance with the rules. I threw a punch, but when the other player continued to disrespect me without giving a fuck, as someone who had already escalated, I then retaliated/responded freely based on Rule 2 of the Killing Rules, since my escalation attempt had failed. I dont understand what I was expected to do in that situation. Am I supposed to just stand there accept insults and threat??, and walk away without reacting?????? I followed the escalation properly and responded within roleplay based on what was happening at the time. I never had any intention of RDM baiting someone. I was insulted and threatened in character (IC). Also i asked you on sit which of my actions you considered RDM bait, or I requested a second staff opinion because I didn’t agree with your judgment, but in both cases I didn’t receive any response. Without giving me a chance to report that the other player didn't comply NLR rules, you simply said “if you have an appeal, go make one” and just banned me.

for now, we gonna run it back up

Currently all suggestions about this were to make magical swep for boxing or whatever. My suggestion is fist fighting shouldn't hospitalize at all but fists should lower HP to 20 like baton and once youre at 20 health every punch you take makes you fallover for 5-20 seconds. This way fist fighting and boxing events won't be annoying as you have to walk from hospital to wherever each time and it makes more sense you'd get knocked out on street rather than end up at hospital each time.

Yall niggas interpretating this wrong 1 you arrest someone for multiple felony’s 2 you take him to cells and see he has a warrant 3 you execute the warrant he’s pending trail. 4 you tell the DAs office the new charges and his warrants charges 5 he gets bailed out without felony status becuase his charges didn’t include the new charges. this is a needed thing as we should be able to add charges to his pen faction status when executing a warrant @Canadian-bacondont listen to those retards dong has legit said this is needed

I get it, Mr. professional gambler, but not everyone has millions to throw around and walk out of the casino like it’s nothing Some people just want to enjoy their free time with small amounts of money. We used to have those tables before the map change, so I just wanted to give it a try and see if we could bring them back.

+1

Honestly this happens pretty often. After sitting down and getting back up, or after getting run over by a car, basically anytime you get knocked into a fallover state and then stand back up, your whole body turns invisible except for your head hitbox. After a little while it fixes itself, or you can type record 1; stop in console and it instantly fixes it. Long story short, the bug usually happens after a fallover or after sitting down and standing back up. Example: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mUKqaanZnZML-WMMN?invite=cr-MSwzYUcsMjcyODgyOTUw&v=12

Hi. I am the member of staff who dealt with this situation. There were 3 of you guys who Mass RDMed, a lot of tickets came in about RDM and after looking in the logs and checking all the kill/death logs, multiple people came back under the kills. After going to the location of some of the kills, you guys were by the park shooting people after moving away from Little Israel and one of the members of your group was micspamming cringe Erika and you were all laughing about it. All 3 of you conveniently had Kosher Nostra characters that were all PKed so it seems like you had a grudge against them. Regardless of you being misled by someone else, you guys have an extensive history of notes and bans about RDM and Metagame situations, I would advocate for this appeal to be denied and for you guys to remain banned. I do not believe that 2/3 weeks is long enough time served to really learn from your mistakes. STEAM_0:1:551887511 - POs for Metagaming & MRDM STEAM_0:1:942516962 - POs for Metagaming & MRDM STEAM_0:0:155431577 - POs for RDM

DAMN i didnt know any of that bro

My nigga Eugene keeps coming up with ideas over and over again MY GUY is a genius bro +1

WE want the roulette table to be brought BACK to the new casino.

Bro, Fail Mug is a completely different rule. The rule we're talking about here is FearRP violation, not Fail Mug. Fail Mug is a specific rule break, not simply failing while trying to mug someone. For example, mugging someone in a green zone or trying to mug someone while there are obvious witnesses around is against the rules and would be considered Fail Mug. In those situations, staff members can punish the player accordingly, including issuing a PK or even a ban depending on the circumstances and the player's actions. That said, the situation we talking about has nothing to do with Fail Mug. It's specifically about FearRP.

I was trying to explain the same thing. I hope you didnt get me wrong my friend @Kyle Waladang

+1 looks like a good guy

4 years for NITRP is wild

A 1 day ban is not the issue for me, and honestly whether it gets removed or not is not my main concern. What matters to me is that I have been playing on this server for a long time, and I do not want my record to be marked for something I believe is unfair. This is important to me because in the past my record has been a reason I could not become staff. For months I have been playing very carefully in case I might get another chance in the future, and I do not want to lose that opportunity over what I believe is a misunderstanding.

Hello, banning admin here. The reason your ban has been set to 7 days is due to your numerous prior punishments for similar rule violations. Given the repeated nature of these offenses, I believe a 7-day ban will provide you with a good time to review the server rules and ensure future compliance. Please take this time to familiarize yourself with the rules before returning.

Name of Character: Baron Nikolai Robert Freiherr von Ungern-Sternberg Character ID: didn't have the chance to check wills alive SteamID:76561199579974825 Your Discord ID:1163886299388858429 Date of PK: Monday June 15th 1990 Reason for PK: killed by a random guy on a rooftop will walking on the street under Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: the reason is rdm, I had no affiliation with the guy and killed for no apperant reason If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: here you go https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mUZUL7i8E_iG0gut6?invite=cr-MSxaMlUsMzIyMDc2MjU2&v=40

Your Character or Steam Name: Andy "Noir" Moris Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:439522528 Your Discord ID#: xsfqn Reason for ban: RDM Bait?? Length of ban: 1D Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute Why should you be unbanned?: Because it was not a RDM Bait. I was walking from Wright's pharmacy towards Little Italy when an unknown person noticed me and pointed a gun directly at my face. I asked him why he was pointing a gun at me and he replied "Nobody is putting up anything in your face man, "FUCK OFF" If he had answered respectfully, I would have said "my bad" and left the area. However, after being insulted and told to fuck off, I replied with "or what?" He then escalated the situation further by saying, "Or I'll fuck you up man, get outta here." I was roleplaying as a Black character living in the 1990s who had just been threatened and disrespected. If my goal was to RDM or bait someone into shooting me, I would have pulled out my gun immediately instead of following the Escalation Rules. After receiving a direct threat, I replied with "Try that shit" and attempted to throw a punch. As I started walking away, he said, "You missed, retarded." I turned back BECAUSE he INSULTED ME AGAIN. and i replied, "You don't even have the balls to fight like a real man, you fucking nerd." When I pushed his door, he pulled out his gun and SHOT me in the legs. Only after being shot i pull out my own weapon and return fire. I would also like to mention that the player returned to the scene immediately after dying. He came back, interacted with me and locked the door back (because door was left open when he died) and break the NLR Rules. If he denies this, the logs should show that the time of his death and the time he locked the door again are very close to each other. What I do not understand is, if the other player was uncomfortable with the situation or did not want to engage in that type of roleplay, why did he insult me, threaten me, and escalate the situation further? He could have continued the escalation without immediately resorting to gunfire. When I attempted to punch him, he had the option to fight back physically instead of shooting me. If he had chosen to continue the roleplay with a fist fight, I would have accepted that outcome and moved on. Instead of choosing any of those options, he decided to resolve the situation by trying to kill me. Does defending myself and returning fire after being shot really make this RDM bait? I only reacted to the options that were presented to me in character as the roleplay developed naturally. At no point was my goal to Bait someone into shooting me or create a reason to Kill another player. To summarize, he tried to kill me and failed. I defended myself and returned fire only after being shot. Around thirty minutes later, I was banned for RDM bait. I believe I followed all Escalation and Killing Rules correctly and simply reacted to the situation as it developed through roleplay. I want to ROLEPLAY, and ignoring a roleplay situation would make no sense when roleplay is the reason I am here. I am fully aware of the Killing Rules and Escalation Rules, and I have read them many times. I understand that, from an outside perspective, this situation may look like RDM bait, but that was never my intention. As I mentioned before, I was simply minding my own business when an unexpected roleplay situation happened. When I asked the staff member which part of the clip was considered RDM bait, I was told to make an appeal instead of receiving an explanation. I also requested a second opinion from another staff member because I believed the decision was incorrect, but my request was ignored. Additional Information (images, videos, etc): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mVDjrPAArgqAjN9c_?invite=cr-MSw3ZDcsMjcyODgyOTUw&v=54

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. The ban will be lifted from your account shortly. If it was deemed an invalid ban, it will also be removed from your record.

Hello, banning admin here. The reason I determined this to be RDM bait is that you had no legitimate RP-related reason to follow and repeatedly pester the other player in the manner that you did. Based on the situation, I concluded that you were attempting to provoke a reaction from them, which constitutes baiting an RP scenario into a negative outcome. As a result, your actions were deemed RDM bait and handled accordingly.