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I think we need to rethink how faction escalations work. Right now, faction RP feels stale, conflict is rare, and High Commands are frustrated. The larger factions that make up much of the player base rarely get action outside of racket events, which only happen every six months. All year it has only been shitty factions doing their meaningless civil wars. I believe a big reason for this is that escalations are treated as something that always lead to a war. Most factions dont want to go to war over minor disrespect, but they still want to be able to retaliate without risking being cooked for fail escalation. I think we need a middle ground between doing nothing and starting a war- My suggestion is to allow minor escalations with valid clips and approval from a regular admin, without requiring an active UA approved war. Examples could include property tagging or trashing, targeted muggings, and potentially firebombings, all with clear restrictions. Offenses can be: Verbal Disrespect, Physical Disrespect, Muggings, Threats, ect. With clips of said offenses admins can approve the next step of escalations. -Getting kicked out of a restaurant can cause that restaurant to get trashed. -Verbal disrespect depending on the severity can cause a group beat down. -Physical disrespect can cause a targeted mugging. -Failed sit downs can cause fire bombings that wont cost the faction millions of dollars, or raids that don’t cause PKs. Small beefs involving property taggings or trashings can move to failed sit downs that can lead to medium escalations (fire bomb, raiding, ect.) After these conflicts occur and play out whether ending in pending sit downs, or shoot outs leaving people hospitalized the factions are not to engage for a set amount of time. Retaliation windows can only be open for so long. To prevent abuse, these escalations should require evidence, have clearly defined limits, and be logged so staff can identify patterns and determine when a larger conflict is justified. This keeps staff involved without requiring UA to handle every minor dispute. The goal is: let factions have beef, let them respond to it, and let RP develop naturally. We need more opportunities for fun and engaging faction conflicts that do not need to result in war. I am sure there is holes in my thinking and ways people will abuse that need to be covered but I just think a change is needed and would be great to see for everyone<3

We NEED a flip off anim where we can flip people off. Both hands or just one hand. The RP would get boosted heavy. Flip off cops, flip off cars, flip off fellow wops. HELL flip off the mayor. FLIP EVERYONE OFF. It would be hilarious.

What the fuck was this PK???

You forgot to mention you're "former staff on diverge"

Name of Character: Krop Nhoj Character ID: 154615 SteamID: STEAM_0:1:520437812 Your Discord ID#: findhelp. Date of PK: 10/16/2026 Reason for PK: Using a room I was given permission to use. Why should you be unPK'd? I believe I was wrongfully PK'd for using a room that I had permission to access, Before it all happened I was told in a conversation I had with some of the "higher members" it was "fishy/suspicious" that i knew what the code to the room I was using, When they themselves in there discord server gave me full access to the information of what building what room it was and the exact code for it, I was also told in that conversation that its also suspicious that I was doing "big drug deals" in the room when I only bought 5 bricks of C, I don't think there's truly a valid reason for this PK and I'd like a second opinion. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/nK1B1OJizmkqIWQf5?invite=cr-MSxuV0gsNzYwMTIxNjYw

looks like metagame i dont know though

W metagame

Nice meat gloves in your boyfriends car

@Toast I'm also a soon-to-be computer engineer, so we're still waiting for your fucking diploma or certificate of enrollment. You're nothing but a chronically online, Discord addicted fatass whose greatest academic achievement is spending 16 hours a day arguing with strangers on the internet. You run your mouth like you've got a PhD, yet the only thing you've mastered is being a terminally online, unemployed fucking embarrassment. Take a shower, touch some grass, and produce a single piece of evidence that you've accomplished anything outside of Discord, you absolute fucking clown.

next level of metagaming + activate your windows u fucking piece of shit

I love meta game wow

quit with the fucking mega alliance and fight bro there’s to much peace and i just wanna shoot smb

I didn't realize no one was making actual messages referring to the topic when I wrote that... now I js look like a retard

I agree there needs to be some kind of middle ground, but in order for that to happen people need to rp properly. Most of the motives for conflicts I've seen have just been escalated ooc. 1) There needs to be a form where people rp properly, and don't just beef for no reason, or escalate out of proportion. Made guys walking out on a bill ≠ Target mugging and tagging. This would be a verbal dispute, which in most cases should end in a big grumble where the made guys cough up the money. AND THEN THE SITUATION ISNT BROUGHT UP AGAIN UNLESS A SIMILAR ISSUE IS REPEATED.(Problem here on both ends in this server. 1. the restaurant owners instead of pressing and starting a confrontation, let them walk out and harbor the interaction for later escalation instead of handling it in rp. 2. If party 1 interacts, The made guys initially in the wrong don't correct their actions by coughing up the money. Instead just walk off and ignore the interaction.) This is just one example, but could be applied to many others. -Implementing easier escalation promotes overlooking small rp and just escalating when not needed. 2) Metagaming is sadly something that needs to be considered. UAs place in escalation is for a reason, as people do just overreact, using a mix of the first problem as well as metagaming. Ex. Someone says something questionable, that under normal circumstances you would just correct and have a quick apology. BUT the person who made the comment has had interactions either ooc or on a different character with the person who was the subject of the offense. This makes the whole interaction even more escalated and out of proportions. -This is also something that is taken on whole faction levels. Prior leadership leaving the faction in poor standing, and instead of people larping and jumping at the fact to make a district or gain political power over another faction keep stomping the faction down due to prior interaction. (This can also be flipped, and factions who are in a very vulnerable position refuse help and rp just to stroke their own cocks. I won't name names.) 3) While letting admins handle it would create more flexibility, it would also just produce a lot more tickets which inevitably UA would need to handle. And then it would be even more frustrating if UA decided that the escalation wasn't just and the whole situation needed to be voided. Similar to PKs, admins make mistakes and thankfully that's easy as unpking. Voiding whole rp situations is way more difficult because those feelings don't just go away. -I do think however, UA needs to be a bit more lax on some of the escalations. If someone refuses a sitdown, the sitdown shouldn't be questioned. IRL if you were asked to a sitdown, even if the reason was shit you still went. And not showing up was a big deal, even if the reason was dumb. TLDR(foid babble summary) 1) Larp currently isn't proper enough for this to be implemented at the level you suggest. 2) Metagaming is a huge problem in this. (Big feelings ooc are hard to handle, but they should not be brought IC) 3) Finding a way for staff to handle this smoothly would be hell. It's a huge +1 from me, but seeing how UA would would make it all work would be very interesting. Feel free to reply to some concerns, I tried to put effort and attention into it but I'm at work, so I may have misspoke on some points.

if u guys r gonna argue on my suggestion u could at least +1 it

nigga I'm 6'3 200lbs what do you expect Annen anlatmış galiba aramızda yaşananları, ben sus demiştim oysa ki şimdi bir daha sikmem gerekecek

@Akira how about going back and studying instead of being a dirty cockroach on the internet.

I have a gun

Done this plenty, just not in game.

fuck you

genuinely me as kinahan don

meta

i am not involved what so ever, but i would to think i know the rules to fearrp pretty well and off the top of my head theres a rule that states you cant attempt to put someone under fear rp from behind them, must be visible to them or some thing along those lines. evil muggers, shooting too fast, wheres the respectable 5 seconds?

you may know me as the gabagool man, a nuisance to most. but i hope you can see me as a much deeper character than just the gabagool man, i am human with distinct thoughts and feeling, i have opinions like any other, i have eyes, and i see my previous ban apeal as unworthy of your eyes. i apologize deeply for my previous attempt, 6 months was plenty of time for me to mature and understand what i did was wrong and i should apologize with all my hard, and request a second chance, would you be so enclined as to unban me for alting, its a horrible thing i did. but i can promise my mental state and maturity has changed for the better in the past 6+ months. yours truly gabagooler.

you got some big fuckin paws on you

as if UA ever accepts suggestions anyway bro

There are like 2 comments here that have anything to do with the suggestion

It should be:

I actually like this idea. it'd add more to the RP Loop than just standing AFK Somewhere waiting to brainrot with shipments

get stabbed again fn

This would be amazing

i wonder where he got this idea

So I didn't lie? Thanks twin I've insinuated that you and your friends are operating as mugging chars, mass mugging I've provided what evidence I have if that's the case then homeboy would get his PK reversed if I'm wrong then I apologize in advance, so in that sense I have something to bring to the table here concerning this ticket. Anything else?

were not gonna talk about him getting told the guy was greenlighted in vc kinda metagame

stop making fun of jj or i will have to step in...

Ruain had good RP ideas that never got put to use so they died. O'Hara went under new leadership and died because of it (also changed to Belgorod for a short time then deleted) Callaghan Clan did the best out of all four but there was a lack of communication between everyone internally which led to their downfall. Kinahan had too many internal struggles and external struggles that they couldn't have kept up with. Also lets not forget Basarab died lmao Also all of the Irish factions went mainly independent so they didn't have much to rely on. O'Hara's got kicked out of the Diamond Syndicate, Callaghan and O'Hara alliance, Callaghan clan were allied with Kirov and O'Hara and briefly Diamond Syndicate for a short time before splitting off doing their own thing. Ruain I don't have too much knowledge on. And Kinahans well.... We all know what happened.... Yap fest over!

Probably just poor management

I blame boink

+1 I remember running with these guys we struggled but we pushed through our high peak hours were during the night and illegal gambling events were fun with them from poker to dice games we did run into a hiccup of one of our guys going on a power trip and sold us out pk'd our guys because he wanted some wop faction to love him it was booty cheeks and I was more active until my perma ban now i am barely getting in the rhythm of things but with ive been back for the last 6 months and I happy to see we are not only going to be selling ecstasy but also larp with it by setting up pill pressing areas to supply x to our dealers I want to see this grow and I am happy to support them

niggas want homeless bum rp until you start shooting up heroin in their place of business

So basically I should strip my clothes scavenge for torn rags to wear and kill other bums for food that’s step 1

I honestly have to agree here, you really don't see any homelessness rp these days. I remember this one guy who used to hang around Little Italy. He was such a convincing bum that I think he may have genuinely been pulling from real-life experiences or something. It was really sad to watch. He would hang around the casino sometimes too, gambling all of his money away at the Lucchese tables. One day, he just disappeared. Some said the CIA kidnapped him, others said he killed himself. Nobody really knows. Ever since that day, I haven't seen such an accurately portrayed bum. His name was like sing or string or something.

Add rusty needles so if you piss off a player RPing as a homeless bum on the streets they might stab you with it

YES!

this is completely unrealistic @DopeAsRoe there will NEVER be a woman as a captain unless its one of them fake ones

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Bert I miss when you weren't suffering from the takahashi and genovese brain worm. Please get medical help

Those are assigned not earned thats why