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I think we need to rethink how faction escalations work. Right now, faction RP feels stale, conflict is rare, and High Commands are frustrated. The larger factions that make up much of the player base rarely get action outside of racket events, which only happen every six months. All year it has only been shitty factions doing their meaningless civil wars. I believe a big reason for this is that escalations are treated as something that always lead to a war. Most factions dont want to go to war over minor disrespect, but they still want to be able to retaliate without risking being cooked for fail escalation. I think we need a middle ground between doing nothing and starting a war- My suggestion is to allow minor escalations with valid clips and approval from a regular admin, without requiring an active UA approved war. Examples could include property tagging or trashing, targeted muggings, and potentially firebombings, all with clear restrictions. Offenses can be: Verbal Disrespect, Physical Disrespect, Muggings, Threats, ect. With clips of said offenses admins can approve the next step of escalations. -Getting kicked out of a restaurant can cause that restaurant to get trashed. -Verbal disrespect depending on the severity can cause a group beat down. -Physical disrespect can cause a targeted mugging. -Failed sit downs can cause fire bombings that wont cost the faction millions of dollars, or raids that don’t cause PKs. Small beefs involving property taggings or trashings can move to failed sit downs that can lead to medium escalations (fire bomb, raiding, ect.) After these conflicts occur and play out whether ending in pending sit downs, or shoot outs leaving people hospitalized the factions are not to engage for a set amount of time. Retaliation windows can only be open for so long. To prevent abuse, these escalations should require evidence, have clearly defined limits, and be logged so staff can identify patterns and determine when a larger conflict is justified. This keeps staff involved without requiring UA to handle every minor dispute. The goal is: let factions have beef, let them respond to it, and let RP develop naturally. We need more opportunities for fun and engaging faction conflicts that do not need to result in war. I am sure there is holes in my thinking and ways people will abuse that need to be covered but I just think a change is needed and would be great to see for everyone<3

We NEED a flip off anim where we can flip people off. Both hands or just one hand. The RP would get boosted heavy. Flip off cops, flip off cars, flip off fellow wops. HELL flip off the mayor. FLIP EVERYONE OFF. It would be hilarious.

What the fuck was this PK???

Name of Character: Krop Nhoj Character ID: 154615 SteamID: STEAM_0:1:520437812 Your Discord ID#: findhelp. Date of PK: 10/16/2026 Reason for PK: Using a room I was given permission to use. Why should you be unPK'd? I believe I was wrongfully PK'd for using a room that I had permission to access, Before it all happened I was told in a conversation I had with some of the "higher members" it was "fishy/suspicious" that i knew what the code to the room I was using, When they themselves in there discord server gave me full access to the information of what building what room it was and the exact code for it, I was also told in that conversation that its also suspicious that I was doing "big drug deals" in the room when I only bought 5 bricks of C, I don't think there's truly a valid reason for this PK and I'd like a second opinion. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/nK1B1OJizmkqIWQf5?invite=cr-MSxuV0gsNzYwMTIxNjYw

looks like metagame i dont know though

W metagame

You forgot to mention you're "former staff on diverge"

I love meta game wow

I agree there needs to be some kind of middle ground, but in order for that to happen people need to rp properly. Most of the motives for conflicts I've seen have just been escalated ooc. 1) There needs to be a form where people rp properly, and don't just beef for no reason, or escalate out of proportion. Made guys walking out on a bill ≠ Target mugging and tagging. This would be a verbal dispute, which in most cases should end in a big grumble where the made guys cough up the money. AND THEN THE SITUATION ISNT BROUGHT UP AGAIN UNLESS A SIMILAR ISSUE IS REPEATED.(Problem here on both ends in this server. 1. the restaurant owners instead of pressing and starting a confrontation, let them walk out and harbor the interaction for later escalation instead of handling it in rp. 2. If party 1 interacts, The made guys initially in the wrong don't correct their actions by coughing up the money. Instead just walk off and ignore the interaction.) This is just one example, but could be applied to many others. -Implementing easier escalation promotes overlooking small rp and just escalating when not needed. 2) Metagaming is sadly something that needs to be considered. UAs place in escalation is for a reason, as people do just overreact, using a mix of the first problem as well as metagaming. Ex. Someone says something questionable, that under normal circumstances you would just correct and have a quick apology. BUT the person who made the comment has had interactions either ooc or on a different character with the person who was the subject of the offense. This makes the whole interaction even more escalated and out of proportions. -This is also something that is taken on whole faction levels. Prior leadership leaving the faction in poor standing, and instead of people larping and jumping at the fact to make a district or gain political power over another faction keep stomping the faction down due to prior interaction. (This can also be flipped, and factions who are in a very vulnerable position refuse help and rp just to stroke their own cocks. I won't name names.) 3) While letting admins handle it would create more flexibility, it would also just produce a lot more tickets which inevitably UA would need to handle. And then it would be even more frustrating if UA decided that the escalation wasn't just and the whole situation needed to be voided. Similar to PKs, admins make mistakes and thankfully that's easy as unpking. Voiding whole rp situations is way more difficult because those feelings don't just go away. -I do think however, UA needs to be a bit more lax on some of the escalations. If someone refuses a sitdown, the sitdown shouldn't be questioned. IRL if you were asked to a sitdown, even if the reason was shit you still went. And not showing up was a big deal, even if the reason was dumb. TLDR(foid babble summary) 1) Larp currently isn't proper enough for this to be implemented at the level you suggest. 2) Metagaming is a huge problem in this. (Big feelings ooc are hard to handle, but they should not be brought IC) 3) Finding a way for staff to handle this smoothly would be hell. It's a huge +1 from me, but seeing how UA would would make it all work would be very interesting. Feel free to reply to some concerns, I tried to put effort and attention into it but I'm at work, so I may have misspoke on some points.

Nice meat gloves in your boyfriends car

nigga I'm 6'3 200lbs what do you expect Annen anlatmış galiba aramızda yaşananları, ben sus demiştim oysa ki şimdi bir daha sikmem gerekecek

I have a gun

Done this plenty, just not in game.

genuinely me as kinahan don

meta

i am not involved what so ever, but i would to think i know the rules to fearrp pretty well and off the top of my head theres a rule that states you cant attempt to put someone under fear rp from behind them, must be visible to them or some thing along those lines. evil muggers, shooting too fast, wheres the respectable 5 seconds?

I didn't realize no one was making actual messages referring to the topic when I wrote that... now I js look like a retard

We already have a Kai.

i think it would be very cool if we can escalate and war if someone rizzes up the don's wife / girlfriend or something yk would be pretty funny if ZQ comes back just to defend his women

There are like 2 comments here that have anything to do with the suggestion

It should be:

@Toast I'm also a soon-to-be computer engineer, so we're still waiting for your fucking diploma or certificate of enrollment. You're nothing but a chronically online, Discord addicted fatass whose greatest academic achievement is spending 16 hours a day arguing with strangers on the internet. You run your mouth like you've got a PhD, yet the only thing you've mastered is being a terminally online, unemployed fucking embarrassment. Take a shower, touch some grass, and produce a single piece of evidence that you've accomplished anything outside of Discord, you absolute fucking clown.

I actually like this idea. it'd add more to the RP Loop than just standing AFK Somewhere waiting to brainrot with shipments

get stabbed again fn

I forgot rambo was a bottomshotter. +1, metagame.

cassette/WL in game is Mafia II - The End

No one does real bum rp anymore

fuck you

next level of metagaming + activate your windows u fucking piece of shit

Pendred has already been quoted saying it's quite silly.

This would be fire asf

i wonder where he got this idea

please let me pay for extra stash/atm item storage space. just like how you can pay to put extra cash in a stash. Back in the day ik people would get their friend to make a new char, make atms and delete the char for extra atms. Idk if people still do this or if it’s still viable, but it would be nice to be able to pay for extra storage.

So I didn't lie? Thanks twin I've insinuated that you and your friends are operating as mugging chars, mass mugging I've provided what evidence I have if that's the case then homeboy would get his PK reversed if I'm wrong then I apologize in advance, so in that sense I have something to bring to the table here concerning this ticket. Anything else?

were not gonna talk about him getting told the guy was greenlighted in vc kinda metagame

stop making fun of jj or i will have to step in...

Ruain had good RP ideas that never got put to use so they died. O'Hara went under new leadership and died because of it (also changed to Belgorod for a short time then deleted) Callaghan Clan did the best out of all four but there was a lack of communication between everyone internally which led to their downfall. Kinahan had too many internal struggles and external struggles that they couldn't have kept up with. Also lets not forget Basarab died lmao Also all of the Irish factions went mainly independent so they didn't have much to rely on. O'Hara's got kicked out of the Diamond Syndicate, Callaghan and O'Hara alliance, Callaghan clan were allied with Kirov and O'Hara and briefly Diamond Syndicate for a short time before splitting off doing their own thing. Ruain I don't have too much knowledge on. And Kinahans well.... We all know what happened.... Yap fest over!

you may know me as the gabagool man, a nuisance to most. but i hope you can see me as a much deeper character than just the gabagool man, i am human with distinct thoughts and feeling, i have opinions like any other, i have eyes, and i see my previous ban apeal as unworthy of your eyes. i apologize deeply for my previous attempt, 6 months was plenty of time for me to mature and understand what i did was wrong and i should apologize with all my hard, and request a second chance, would you be so enclined as to unban me for alting, its a horrible thing i did. but i can promise my mental state and maturity has changed for the better in the past 6+ months. yours truly gabagooler.

I blame boink

velocity read the rules challenge (impossible edition) dude always commenting random nonsense like "as a former staff member" and just getting it wrong Hans, having 2 prior POs for mugging related reasons means he should've read the rules at least once. Hans could have just tied this woman for quite a while but instead opted into trying to pk her for something that's not pkable, something that's explicitly stated in the rules, especially with a history of breaking mugging rules. Surprisingly this wasn't a perma. Take your win.

1. The last time I decided it was time for my main character to relapse on herion I called the police. I was in the car dealer / pharmacy alleyway. The cops pulled up to my little campsite and arrested me for making a false call. I was trying to convince them my char was overdosing and I shot like 4 bags of herion. They complained the whole time and said “stop cop baiting and making false phone calls or I’m calling staff. “ No RP from cops. 2. One time I hired a white shirt to lockpick the meat market. He opened every door. A bunch of other white shirts came over and took the place over. Eventually it turned in to a shoot out with whatever kids were in the Bonanno WL. They said their property isn’t a homeless shelter. I completely disagree. John’s Deli. Make Homeless RP great again.

wym all the retards outside the meat market do it perfectly!

be the change you want to see

YES!

+1 way more realistic and makes sense for the role play the old female uniforms are just not good at all and doesn’t fit into the role play.

Those are assigned not earned thats why