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I mean, there's nothing stopping you from having conflict RP with another faction other than your own limitations. You have some drama with another factions? send some dudes down to their business and cause trouble. Drive by and shoot at the building / windows, making escalations get more heated to initiate sit downs etc. Nobody is stopping you from doing this, other than y'all being wimps.

I get it, factions hate each other for their own reasons. There's no way, and there shouldn't be a way, to prevent people from having their opinions right? The problem is that we've taken the hate outside of the RP. Nowadays the extent of Conflicts in the RP is shitposting on rumours. The extent of Conflicts outside the RP is people making cop characters to bring down the factions they don't like, people applying for staff only to help out their factions, targeted muggings just for the pk etc. We have such a good opportunity to use whatever feelings we have for another faction in RP but with the state of the server right now, when it comes to RP, factions just pretend that the others don't exist most of the time, and when they are in the same room it's just retarded Non-coherence. All RP goes out the door as slurs and modern slang fly from one side to the other. I guess I just miss how the server used to be.

80% of the server has ESP and or spend all their money to get unpkd and unbanned

Fish rp.... Murder inc 3.0 gonna end up being a faction under the thumb of the regime. Members will be threatened oocly and handed ingame money to stay loyal to this thing of Lucchese. The start of the push for the 3rd alliance. Popov, This, Irish. #RPisFine #ThereIsNoMegaAlliance #ThereIsNoRegime #CantWaitToMugAndESP!

-1 hasn't given me any beer money this week.

Never thought i'd agree with you. People treat this like a pvp server not a RP server then use hacks when its time to PVP but somehow never get caught cheating. Hand Spasms go crazy

Name of Faction: The Wright Crime Family Number of Members (Minimum of 5): 20 Type Of Faction (Family, Triad, Street Gang, etc): Crime Family Ethnic Background (ex: Italian, Greek, African American, Irish, etc): English, (British) Name of Character running the faction: Daniel Fernsby Your Discord # (ex: gamer#4210): ___alex____#0638 Your SteamID: 76561198829389343 Your Server playtime: 3weeks 2days 7hours (559 hours) Do you acknowledge and agree to all faction rules as detailed on the server rules page? (Yes/No): Yes Do you acknowledge that your faction discord will be owned by us? (Yes/No): Yes Provide an example of the unique Roleplay your faction will bring to the server/what type of roleplay we can expect from your faction (Images/Videos Preferred): We aim to be a higher class of faction. Bringing elegance and luxury to the city, tying in with our British heritage. As our main business, we would run a gentleman’s club/lounge. This would be considered a higher class establishment, where a strict dress code would be enforced to uphold our classy appearance. Once established, regular members will have the opportunity to purchase a VIP membership to the club where once a member, they will have the opportunity to enter into exclusive giveaways, enter private auctions for exclusive items, eat and drink for free for life, attend private parties, participate in a gentleman's boxing league and much more. We intend to be more business focused, rather than on bloodshed. We aim to have a well established private society, with an illegal racket running in the background. We also plan to have a tailoring shop as an addition onto the club. We aim to make buying clothing a new way of Rping. For example, if someone is to come in looking for a suit we would measure the individual and tailor the suit to them to ensure each item purchased feels personal to the buyer. This will apply for hats, shirts, jackets, and pants. VIP membership would also apply to the tailoring shop, bringing discounts and first dibs on newly stocked clothing items. For our members, we aim to offer a unique and refreshing roleplay experience. Don’t expect the typical stand in front of the door guard that everyone is tired of. We will offer immersive tasks and roleplay for our members to keep them engaged, even from the lowest rank. Provide examples or event ideas to promote activity within your faction and keep people interested. (Reference your unique RP from the question above): As stated above, we plan to hold private auctions for our "High Roller VIPS". The auctions would start at a much lower price than buying price so there will be a real incentive for people to participate. For faction members we aim to hold weekly "block parties" where faction members and guests can come to mingle. Appreciation and awards will be handed out to top performers of the week. We also want to give new people who come to the faction a more enjoyable time. No more sitting on a door for five years. We aim to have different positions for new members. For example errand runners, bodyguards, drivers, and bartending. One of our biggest goals is to keep new members interested instead of staring into the street senselessly. We plan to have open bar nights where drinks and food are free for anyone. To further iterate on our faction being heavily business based, we intend to build relations with other factions, but in the scenario that someone tries impeding on our business we wont hesitate to show face. Organization Backstory (Min. of 250+ Words & any images): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LA-v8vhceDd7glelu3bKljk8_Z80g2Qk3ZwEkOK7mrs/edit?usp=sharing

if gun bags can carry one large gun, why shouldnt they be able to carry 3 pistols

Mega alliance’s have ruined the server. Until they are fixed not the bandaid that is “5 factions per alliance” which we know does nothing. Make wars just temporary PK we seen the last time a war happened player count did not drop by much if anything it prevented it. Have the winning side win either a Racket, property, cash (10-50) million all depending on how sided the war is the winning side only gets one. If another war happens I hope to god it’s not a copy of a racket event. Small wars could happen if once again the alliance stuff is fixed.

Hello! After an investigation was conducted, it was made clear there was heavy metagame involved here. The users guilty of such have been dealt with and your PK will be getting reversed. Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

Almost a month of opportunity and you chose this one crew deal. 12/29/2025 to 01/18/2026 (not 2006) to finally pay something in. There lies the issue. Pick something to fight for and show proof. It’s either we “didn’t give time” (which we did) or we are mad at your cop char (which we have also disproven.). Youre dead partner, that’s all she wrote.

Deleting the original video and chopping it down to 8 seconds is wild work. The good news is that I downloaded the original video because I know Sauerkraut was going to lie to the staff and play victim. The Full real video, meta game included

Hello, guy who wrote the orders here. When you became a prospect you were told about the bar tabs. You were fully aware and even paid one on 12/29/2025. When I had this conversation with you in the church, asking you what was going on, I never told you to wait until the deal. Even if I did, the amount you had for the deal would not have been enough for your 70k that you owe. I wrote the orders on this basis. I could give a fuck less about your cop character because, like Riddy said above, we have multiple guys in our faction with cop characters and their actions on those characters do not effect our relationship/our role play on their SoS characters. When we had the conversation, I offered you loa/retirement and you took neither. I also don’t recall you saying anything about paying after the deal. This just is what it is brother. Have hard feelings if you would like. For us, it’s just the role play.

This should absolutely get this thrown out. You tried to prevent allegations of metagame by removing audio from a PK clip? Clear metagame the situation is void.

Because we can because you refused to pay your taxes as stated you take that pledge when you join the faction as well as our own club by laws 70k is multiple weeks of not paying your tab.

Hey Randy So I was the staff member who set your character pk active. The reason why is because according to your faction leaders, you kept skipping paying the taxes you owed them, eventually leading to your death. When you join a criminal faction, you should be aware that your actions do have consequences and avoiding them is not the way to go. On top of that, the situation with your police character had nothing to do with this situation, as far as I saw it, as they never even mentioned your cop character, leading me to believe this pk does not result from OOC beef. However, if you do have evidence that´s the case, feel free to publish such evidence in this thread.

Crazy to say as we told you to make a loa stop being a hypocrite we have club by laws you didn’t follow them and now cry that we pked you over your cop char… you owed 70k and didn’t pay give or take the crew deal was gonna happen we asked for money you said you didn’t have it. Multiple times. As for bringing in pd relations I could care less for we have many members who have a Cop 2nd life so this statement is just invalid

I would like to note that when I initially reviewed the video, there was no audio available, and I have not viewed it again until now. After reviewing the comments, I rewatched the video and can now confirm that clear meta-gaming is present. This issue will be addressed separately with the individual involved in the PKing, in accordance with server rules.

Dude this is 100 % Metagame bro you can here them in the background in the clip in a VC and you can hear his push to talk and you can hear people join on his stream well he is live streaming the mug as well as a staff member in the clip as well in the VC like what lmao ?

-1 This guys a bozo with a weak appeal

Crazy work that you can hear them meta gaming at the end of the clip, Last I checked meta gaming was a bannable offense.

So the TM is clearly livestreaming his pk, seemingly to a member of staff - this is hugely concerning, no? Otherwise said member of staff is metagaming from his staff char.

Well you were told you owed 70k you knew you owed 70k and just let it build. We told you if there was an issue make a LOA and we would grant it you didn’t and wanted to play with fire. gave you multiple chances to pay your back taxes and you failed to do so. Thanks also ps could care less for your pd char as your a lil fish.

why does the end of the clip have people talking in a vc as though they already know what happened?

Learn to rp than tryna play Cod. Everyone wants a conflict so they can use their ESP and shit

Guys can somebody start some allegations against me?

yo coco my bestie, remember the little spark you and yumeko had

I totally agree with that. At the end of the day the PK system is abused more often than not. Of course people won't want to lose the characters that they spent days and weeks grinding on, but the system makes it so people are deathly(literally) afraid of any conflict cause they can get got. It just leaves to the RP getting stagnant. At the end of the day, exactly what @Thomassaid. No PKs or Temporary PKs as long as wars last, the winners get a reward and after the war only the reward remains. There's literally no problem to "Arcade-ifying" the conflicts. People are already rich, everyone already has an equal opportunity to make wealth for the most part, it would be a perfect opportunity to make more money out of RP.

bleh blah I love the idea +1

People far too scared to lose all their shit in a PK war for conflict now.

I prefer the opposite method: 100% rp but keep no real valuables besides 1 or 2 suits and guns

The Fletcher Firm, truly was one of the greats.

It is no secret the more cars we have on the server the worse the server performs making it a very unenjoyable experience for all. People complain to staff about SOS. Staff complains about people complaining. Per Staff's suggestion to complain I am suggesting we create a system that only allows a specific number of cars on the based on active player count, slowly decreasing to 0 the closer the server gets to maximum population. Thanks.

First off, I agree with conflict on the server. It creates more RP with high commands, and get factions involved in strategy and teamwork. However, the last war was god awful when it came to actually participating in it. There was 0 clarification on the point system, both sides just camped majority of their individuals in properties, and there was no real loss to either side other than a small sum of money. Conflicts have been proven to be headaches, have little reward, and pointless since the RP now is so poor. Imo, getting rid of UA partaking in conflicts, reimplementing the PK last man standing war system, and removing these mega alliances would be the only way of fixing it.

I was told two days ago that I could make an LOA if I needed it, I explained the upcoming crew deal would help me settle my debts. A reasonable person would assume its okay to wait two days for money to come in, instead of PKing me and then taking all the drugs I would've paid them with anyways. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I was simply treated unfairly given I explained my circumstances. Nobody explicitly told me I owed 70k, but I clearly explained my real life circumstances and any person would expect to be given some wiggle room. Edit: I believe my unfair treatment to be potentially motivated by actions on my PD character separate from my SOS character.

Explanation here: This stunt was going on for a good 5 minutes before the beginning of this clip. About 2 minutes in I decided to join a call that had a staff member in it (the only staff member that was available to me during this time, which was around 4AM) and share my screen to see if it was a valid mug. I had no intention of PKing the guy, I went in to mug for items he had on his character, he didn't want to comply. He was being mugged on his own property so I wasn't completely sure if he was able to be PK'd because of it or what. I was riding solo this whole time, and only wanted confirmation from a staff member if what I was doing was allowed. Granted, it definitely wasn't the best idea to be sharing my screen at all and instead just explain to him the situation, this entire scenario seems pretty funky I'll admit that. And if it's against the rules to do what I did, then I'm willing to face punishment for my actions. All it was at the time was just me wanting confirmation from staff, that's all.

To prevent this exact situation from happening. The flooded comments about Metagame. The headache as a whole.

The only time I was ever confronted was at church earlier this week, two days ago, where I told you guys that I was having a rough time and explained my OOC situation. I even asked for help on the discord to pedal drugs so that I could earn some money in order to pay my dues, to which I was told to wait until the crew deal. The crew deal that I was killed before ever getting a chance to participate in- in order to pay my dues. I was told to wait until the crew deal on discord, instead of doing rumors to sell my stuff, and I was killed anyways. I thought, because I was told to wait, and how the crew deal is literally later today, that I would be given a chance to earn some money to kick up. Instead I was killed, and the drugs that would've earned me my kickup was taken from me anyways. It is claimed I was confronted multiple times, this is false, only once, TWO days ago. Where I was told on discord to wait for the crew deal instead of going off on my own and making money. Conveniently I was kicked out of the discord and cannot prove I was told to wait. The only possible reason that I can fathom that you guys would up and kill me where you told me to WAIT to make money, which is why I was killed for not having money in time, is because of some kind of bias due to my conduct on my police char. When I asked for context on discord as to why I was killed, and approached people in game using LOOC, nobody said anything to me, or offered context. The only context being offered is "we told him too bad" when this is false. I have attached a screenshot of the DMs between me and the individual who carried out the PK, expressing discontent at my conduct on PD. It pains me to do this, considering Carl and I (I thought) were friends. He has up until this point ghosted me over a gmod PK, which is wild. Just yesterday, Carl was on my ass in a separate VC literally yesterday about writing affidavits against faction members, harping on me to "just claim conflict", I find it interesting the next day the very same guy PKs me for not having kickup when I was told to wait until the crew deal to make money, and was never given a chance to make it to the crew deal. Edit for clarification: They knew I was trying to make money, they told me to wait until the crew deal, they killed me before the crew deal. They ordered me into the situation they killed me over, this treatment is unfair and could only derive from one thing: some kind of OOC bias.

Why would they kill me before the crew deal, after they told me to wait for the crew deal, knowing the crew deal would be what made up for kickups? They told me to wait, and waiting is what got me killed. That logical hole is my problem here.

I was never confronted with the figure 70k, I was asked "whats going on brother?" during church. Nobody told me anything was due, there was no multiple attempts to warn me, and when you knew I was working to pay off whatever number I was owing, you killed me before I got the chance and made sure to take my cut before killing me, my cut that would've gone back to the club anyways. It went from "whats going on brother?", to ghosting in DMs, ignoring me in game, and insulting me on the forums. ("Thanks also ps could care less for your pd char as your a lil fish", "This guys a bozo with a weak appeal") All in the span of 48 hours or less. The change up is crazy, I was farmed for the PK the very second you thought you had the minimum requirement, when I was ordered into that situation.

I was sharing my screen showing that I was mugging someone (and making sure it was valid by a staff member). Nobody that was in the call was involved in the mugging. I lockpicked my way in, saw him, mugged him. If it's against the rules to simply show I was mugging someone and then getting confirmation that it's a valid mug/pk, then I'll take whatever punishment is deserved.

I was told to wait until the crew deal, that it would be better if I did instead of doing something by myself on discord by the same person as in the image above. And I asked for help sometime before that message. I acknowledge I had dues, I acknowledge it was a decent amount of money, I simply can't agree with how you guys handled it. When I was killed I was told they were doing early collection for the crew deal and that's what brought me aside in a lonely area, how am I supposed to make money by myself when I was told to wait until a crew deal that I was killed before it ever took place? Where else would that money have of gone other than back into the club? Bottom Line is: I was killed before I made it to an opportunity to make money that I was told to wait for. Regardless of the motivations behind it, its not particularly fair. Additionally, instead of the guy who killed me just explaining why in DMs, I was ghosted entirely and had to make this appeal to even find out why. When I asked for the discord of someone higher in the club than the guy who did it to try and find out why, I was ghosted as well. This cold-shoulder is indicative of some kind of distaste for me, and I simply cannot see why, other than disagreeing with my PK reason- which, in itself, makes no sense. And this behavior pre-dates my appeal.

Name of Character: Randy O'Connor Character ID: 67260 SteamID: STEAM_0:1:625580540 Your Discord ID#: 733701648983261284 Date of PK: 1/18/2026 Reason for PK: I was never told/do not know why Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: I believe as if I was given no leniency whatsoever, and was potentially targeted for actions on my PD character. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: I would rather keep this part private.

It's hated because people will fucking cry to their admin friends and complain if they lose anything of value or something they spent money on. Don't be too good at mugging; you might just get banned for not roleplaying. Fear Roleplay i guess.

If you have been blacklisted why don’t you change yourself and maybe recover your reputation?

Also, this is an IC issue so how would this be powergame admins? I can see both sides though

Do you have proof this guy planting shit, because it would be a perma if not for him

Why are you flaming my shit. I’m not this guy I just was copying wha he said and just asked questions. Yall gotta chill on me

The admins already know im not an alt. This is just my friend group and they know it. We all are in a steam family and all are IRL friends