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fbi and rico was the most corrupt shit known to man, sure they may of had good takedowns but it was 100% always their specific targets as the victims.2 points
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This is the only thing that can be taken from this suggestion. PD doesn't need more buffs, if you're bothered by the balance of the game look to nerf the other end of the stick (i.e how easy it is to make money illegally and such). You got people putting hours upon hours on the server, contributing in RP and trying to get a spot. Police have the ability to, and some do, minge all of that away with very little repercussions. Police stop you for anything, they will get your ID, god forbid you were carrying anything you shouldn't be carrying or you don't want to be identified. At the very least you're looking at either time or having to dispute BS, at the worst say bye bye to all those hours cause this cop with 4 days playtime felt like stopping you. TL;DR Crim factions have way more to lose compared to PD faction as is, no need to tip the balance further.1 point
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I like the idea of RICO in theory but as others have stated, I don't think it really works in practice. The only way I can really see it working, without it being massively OP would be to have FBI (or just a branch of the PD) that are for creating task forces which attempt to get IC information to establish the hierarchy of the mob they're tasked to, so that the information can be used in court cases. Implementing an entire RICO system would kill the mafia RP. Do agree that factions have gotten really safe in terms of big crackdowns from PD. When I was running my faction, I always played in a 'actions have consequences' and would often RP that the police could wipe out the whole faction, even if they realistically couldn't. TLDR: More factions and PD need to RP.1 point
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE In all seriousness it makes 110% sense that a criminal organisation can tell it's supplier who will be handling drugs and who won't be. Having flags to order drugs that are able to be handed out via a UI only people with the capo flag have access to would be INCREDIBLE. Would also do NUMBERS for preventing racket abuse.1 point
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Generally being arrested is one's own fault like yeah UC's can be fatal tho but how much do you truly think that's happening I could understand that. I wasn't at it particularly long as Don but that shit did legitimately fucking suck. Lotta moving parts. More or less if you have yourself air gapped as far as the business and properties go legally it would be hard to attack them. Even more so if the on paper owner is a legit char kinda like how Lucchese does it putting their stuff on Vincent. That's an example of difficult to catch by RICO. A case like that might only go from middle down at best with how they're arranged and even then it would still be a LONG and tedious investigation.-1 points
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The affiliation isn't the crux of how it works. It's a game of follow the money. Pretty much if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt where the money is going and prove that it's dirty money then yeah. It's not a case of minge runs from cops 30 times and works at your store therefore life in prison. The bar is notoriously high to win it.-1 points
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Like I've said in other posts I do agree that it needs to be balanced and not rapey. They'd a misconception that they're short and easy investigations, they're not. It's not based off of simple association it's being able to prove definitively that a group is both committing crimes and running a legal front to launder funds. Association is a part of that but it's not loose association it needs to be proven that everyone involved is actually a part of the criminal activity. It's further than "they all wear the same color bandanas and hang out at the same bar" but more "they all either deal drugs, arrange drug deals, or collect money from drug deals all together".-1 points
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Every faction has pretty much one consolidated goal: hire as many fucking retarded people as possible to grind bricks for the Don. They do this with limited consequences. You work the door for half an hour without any rp, maybe even less than that, then you're an oil bitch for a week or two before you get into drugs. These factions hire and don't punish some of the most questionable individuals that get caught every 10 min doing shit. The staggering amount of people who operate with little to no operational security, die, and come back in a week is mind blowing. Before this gets mass downvoted hear me out please. This isn't just a "buff pd nerf crims" post. If thought out and implemented correctly it can bring an increase in faction rp quality, gives prenatal Tylenol victims something to do, and ideally it would give dons and high command more faction management tools. 1) Implement a system for faction high command to control who gets access to drugs and/or guns. If we're gonna invite a chance that a faction can take some significant damage from poor opsec, it's best that they get the ability to pick and choose who of their people can partake in the activities most vital and dangerous to their continued existence. The meat and potatoes of a RICO case is establishing that a criminal enterprise exists and a pattern of crimes from the past present and planned future crimes. In order for a RICO case to work, you'd have to have fucked up very severely as the bar to prove them is pretty high. Therefore if you're gonna mass hire muscle, best make sure there are tools to allow management to at least macro manage these guys. 2) Have bingus cook up the RICO act. Straightforward stuff. He'd have to weigh out the balance to ensure it's not powergame rape nonsense but still give it teeth. If you're gonna hire a fucking mong white shirt with a bat who selects hands instead of keys every time to then go represent your group in drug deals with potential lasting consequences, that's literally on those who hire. Rather than trying to run a zerg of brick grinders, rp with your new hires and thoroughly feel them out and train them. If the cops are so far up your ass that they're able to prove a RICO case against you that's literally a consequence of poor operational security. Bank sharing en masse? That's literally on your people. Murders in broad daylight? That's literally on your people. Your guys wearing your colors while felony maxxing in broad daylight (and probably doing it in your company car)? That's literally on your people. Having properties owned by a middleman to keep heat off the Don is good shit. Having businesses run by people not the Don is good shit. There are so many measures to take to prevent a RICO case that if it happens and totally dunks on your people it's not the fault of the police and courts for ripping your nuts off. 3) Da Fedz Ah yes I know what you're thinking: isn't this basically detectives+? Kind of but the difference would be that they explicitly would be limited in numbers (call it 5 for sake of balance) but given more legal powers to punish lazy or stupid factions. Being able to get records requests faster and easier, being able to expedite processes of seizure and suspension, and charges they bring coming with some significant fines and jail time for those on the other side of it. Will they be weaponized against disliked factions? No because it comes with the caveats: no former don characters, no characters over senior associate at all in any faction, preference for gov mains, and they aren't allowed to press city level charges only state (and possibly fed?) charges. The balance comes from their numbers. It forces the group to need to be on top of their shit and cull people who aren't doing their job. It would be meant for only the best of the best. The idea in my head is that there needs to be a legitimate threat to factions that aren't careful and enforcing careful operations. Having outside hit contracts, enforcing decorum, and being generally slick gives you nothing much to worry about. But opening yourself up for a colonoscopy should result in one being scheduled whether you want it or not. Thoughts?-1 points
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Two wrongs dont make a right on that one imo the standard should be raised on both sides of the equation and equally if one side is going to get buffed the other side needs something too. Like I had suggested, adding the ability for faction leadership to reign in who can access what would be huge. Faction leaders also already do have access to many tools needed to prevent the building of these cases like using middlemen (see Vinny Lucchese using Vincent Lucchese as the legal front man for his faction, that is exemplary work since Vincent doesn't do crimes but is still active) and keeping operational separation from himself and the lower rung doing crimes. Much qualms as I have with Lucchese as a faction, they are an example of good opsec. Of course there may be people in the factioon that break the opsec by bank sharing or using banks at all for storage but like individual catches are nowhere even remotely close enough to fully build a RICO case. These cases need you to do a long line of serious fuckups and not policing information (yapping to the lower people about sensitive shit). TL;DR there is SO MUCH you can do to prevent these crimes from working out. They only work out when you get really sloppy. If one lower level person is able to cause a significant enough level of damage to build this kind of case, you might need to look back at all the places leadership went wrong. Yeah I can imagine though that was a time in diverge I'm not so quick to want to return to. Keeping RICO exclusive to a very small group, having a very high bar as far as what you need to accomplish to make it work, and even maybe a requirement for UA approval before using the mechanisms could balance out those concerns. UA gets involved even in detective operations fairly often from what I've gathered and experienced. I wouldn't personally mind them being involved in when the lever is allowed to be pulled. Mind, even them granting the okay to go through with the execution does not automatically win the case either it still needs to go to court AND be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. With all the above in mind, I think we might be able to craft a new system with accountability and safety measures put in place to prevent abuse.-1 points