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Hello, you were PKd due to leaving the kirov bratva's whitelist which is ground for a PK. The two week rule you are quoting is in regards to the time limit the faction has to wrote orders on you. If they write orders within two weeks of you leaving they may kill you past two weeks of you leaving.

Name of Character: Wheatley Aperture SteamID: STEAM_0:1:217790399 Your Discord ID#: theweirdcore Date of PK: 5/24/ 1989|2025 Reason for PK: Leaving faction Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: I should be unpked due to how I conducted my self with leaving the faction. I changed my name which I know is IC info in the government pager, however a name change isn't a good enough reason to pk someone even with a warning behind it. People can change their name inside of a faction already. I didn't snitch at any point about the faction or any information of the faction. I didn't become a CI or join with the police after leaving. I changed my face and name after I left faction when I knew they wouldn't be any members on in city to witness me transitioning to the New York civilian faction. I didn't play or hop on the character for at least a good 3 weeks to a month, except when I changed my face and name when no member was on; just so I could fly under their radar to leave the faction quietly and peacefully. The way I died suggests some level of metagaming could be involved in my pk. They basically rushed me with their car and class 3 weaponry while I was buying oil from someone. Before that, I decided to join an oil faction once a good amount of time passed felt. This basically suggests and makes me think they didn't have any worthy IC info of me leaving the faction to set me active for those 3 weeks. I did have an ooc conversation questioning about leaving but that was way before I made any attempt to leave on my own means. I'm aware people had my name before I changed it and that could be the trail that lead them to figuring out who I was. Though on the other hand, I left the faction when they where not in city to witness me transitioning out of it. I basically have the character go ghost mode and didn't fly him in, so they couldn't get a lead to confirm it was me when I did leave the faction. It leaves me wonder how they found out, they basically where offline in city whenever I did something with the character. I also checked the rules of PK Guidelines and under the Family Member Kills at the very bottom of the section it states, "This 'left faction' reason is valid for 2 weeks after the individual leaves your organization. If you failed to notice or care before those two weeks expired then clearly this person was not important enough to warrant going after. (Exceptions made if they snitch, falls under a different pk reason) However note that the target not logging on does not affect your ability to place the hit in-game. So give the in-game order before the 2 week expiration, regardless if they log in or not and you will still be permitted to carry out the hit later down the line." In this paragraph, it clearly defines the rules about how pk validations work under 'left faction' reasons. "This 'left faction' reason is valid for 2 weeks after the individual leaves your organization." This line states that I have a two week pk validation on my head when I specifically leave the faction. I have left the faction over that time period. "(Exceptions made if they snitch, falls under a different pk reason)," I did not snitch or have any evidence of snitching with my character so this does not apply to me. "However note that the target not logging on does not affect your ability to place the hit in-game. So give the in-game order before the 2 week expiration," This clearly says that me logging in or not on the character does not affect the time limit of the hit acceptance, that two week validation is still ticking down. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: My Medal wasn't working at the time of the pk.

I haven't done the quiz yet. The reason i reposted this was because you closed my ticket due to me not responding in time

Appreciate you for sticking around

Here's the clip of the situation, lying doesn't help anyone.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Why I do commend you for accepting your fault above, I do want you to understand that item transfer of any kind is not permitted on this server. This is your first offense and that you admitted fault above is the reason I am going to lower the ban. However, any chars that were pk as a result of this offense will remained pk'd. Please read the rules and abide by them, I expect you should know them seeming you were staff not that long ago. The ban will be reduced to 3 days.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Cannon admitted to some wrong doing in his appeal, and I do agree that this was a systematical way of moving all of your stuff to new chars to benefit the new faction you were going to try to make. In order to ensure none of those items are transferred or used, your chars that were used will stay pk'd. This is your first offense of this type, and it seems to be rather large, please read the rules and abide by them. The ban will be reduced to 3 days.

I think this should be added, especially after seeing gun bags, and how they work.

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Powergame rule #2 Metagame Rule #11 Character Rule #6 Your characters should have no relation to one another and you obviously can't share or pass information from one character to another. The only reason you knew your friend was arrested and then switched to the alt was because you witnessed it / heard of it on one character (unless there was some sort of discord info metagame!) and despite being part of the initial situation that led to the arrest you attempted to intervene on a different character, you then hopped onto the cop character (only because of the knowledge you had from your 2 OTHER characters) to go ask around about the arrest and loiter. And yes I understand your second character "saw the arrest" but if you were aware the arrest was 'still happening' and intentionally switch character and B line it to the spot so you can then claim IC knowledge you are still using information from your other character, you're engaging with the roleplay in bad faith to make that switch to then obtain it as 'IC knowledge'. Being apart of the initial situation and attempting to involve yourself on a different character is explicitly restricted. Discharged on 3/26 (2 months ago) and you thought it was still active despite only loading it twice in the last 2 months, one of which was this situation. Given your immense playtime, your past bans and your experience I think you obviously know better, I think you're intentionally try to, in bad faith, interpret the rules in a way that somehow exonerates you from wrong doing, despite the clarity, and I think that all things considered the three days that 4lights gave you was incredibly generous. Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

As mentioned on this post, like i said, it's already on the todo list. Regardless ill mark this as accepted.

i agree, it seems like the direction the server development is heading too is integrating all of it onto a database and would make life easier - esp in the court and arresting side of things. It may come to the point using google docs become redundant and I am hopeful of that. Exciting times but we know it may take a long while - keep up the good work Devs!

This is peak

this would be super useful to have instead of a discord channel I'm not high ranking whatsoever but I do forget to clock in for the first 20 min I'm on my cop char relatively often and now with this being where we get to check our payment it would be virtually impossible to forget to clock in anymore

Had to read this a few different times and think before coming back. -1 Sorry. Maybe if this replaced the already lackluster Russian faction.

-1

I am retarded. Please, help.

Honestly, fair. If there’s zero incentive then it’s just a labor of love. So if you don’t love it, leave it.

Note: It has already has been stated that an off duty function is added to the to do list, just wanted to add my two cents on a way to implement it that could be nice (might already be what was in mind). I really like the updates that have been done with the Police Computer and would like to have more options to remove some of the need of Discord, specifically with removing/replacing #clock-in-out. In the concepts attached, I have included: 1. An option to clock in and clock out from the police computer. 2. An option to display the recent history of clock in and clock outs (Date and time of each clock in and clock out, similar to the ATMs). The history tab can serve a purpose in proving activity to the Bureau of Internal Affairs if they suspect activity related infractions. In addition to "Clock Out" disabling the pay for officers, there could be another feature implemented that removes the "Cop Badge" as a wearable item from the Evidence NPC and instead when someone in PD clocks in through the computer, the Cop Badge will automatically be attached to their character - This way if someone has clocked in and is wearing plain clothes, it will be easier for staff to be made aware of people abusing the pay system, and for officers that want to spend time off duty there won't be any suspicion of them attempting to farm pay. Another benefit to this change with the Cop Badge would be the removal of needing "Off Duty" or "On Duty" in the description of officers, as the badge will indicate that instead. Edit: In regards to Supervisors and IA - There could also be an additional tab created for them to be able to check the clock in and clock out history of other officers in some sort of 'Employee Search'. Or alternatively, a new tab that is created that automatically displays all officers and how many days they haven't been clocked in for - with the least active people being at the top of the list, making it easier for Supervisors and IA to spot B-4 and A-2 Infractions.

This is fairly obvious. You took the gun out of your bank and within a minute, as the cassette shipment crate was counting down to 0. You shot the guy at 1 second. So your friend standing on the shipment could get it. A cassette store version of "Frank Sinatra - Luck be a Lady". You then left the server 2 minutes later. While you may not realize it, this is against he killing rules. If you had placed him under FEAR RP or handled the situation differently. This would not have been RDM ( Random Death Match ). But I think you were just being a little sneaky here. It is also considering LTAP ( Leaving to avoid punishment ), as you recently killed someone and disconnected under a damage cooldown. I realize you have no record up until this point, if you had admitted the infractions this would likely have been appeal or reduced. However, I find it hard to believe, even if it is true, that you could not 'remember'. So on these basis I will be denying your appeal. Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

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Eat better food

+1 would be so cool if there was something to walk up to similar to the PD computers

Well, again, my Alt Character Phil Leonardo has the f3 of the character arrested. Not to mention I was arrested and served my time. What is wrong with that? Rules state if you have the f3 you are considered "rolling with them" and can intervene. I also intervened while it still was happening As for my cop character, didnt realize I was discharged. I was still whitelisted so I assumed I was still in. But again, I never went into the cell, and I asked why the cops were outside the cell since two detectives who werent involved took over the case. What is suspicious about that? Under a "New Life" of my cop, me asking details isnt meta game. If I accused the arresting officers of something when I wasnt present, then that would be metagame. Also, I never got "upset". I never yelled, swore or challenged you in a disrespectful way. You never used your mic and typed everything out. I merely asked questions and you immediately told me to take it to the forums when I asked you questions. I ask questions to gain understanding. since like I said, the rules here aren't clear and Rule 11 is the only one that comes close to this, and given that I never did anything with any information, Nothing was used for anybody's benefit. I merely stood outside the cell waiting for him to be released. Is this really worth three days? It could have been explained to me and a warning would have sufficed and I would have apologized. If you stick with the three days, then fair enough. But at the very least there should be maybe an update to the rules regarding detailed explanations of what is character abuse or meta gaming. Since I read everything over and couldn't find anything. Maybe my circumstance is murky or grey, but Blatant rule breaking? I would respectfully disagree. Then again, im not an admin so what do I know

I would prefer using a punch time clock to clock in and out for PD instead of using a command.