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+1 solid suggestion, RDR1 being the example is what i like the most, it would be the best system to add into diverge one because of simplicity and two because i don't wanna play URL links, its boring and not worth buying in 50k. This is a great suggestion and definitely should be implemented into the city.

It would be a cool feature to have a actual "illegal" gambling racket yes you have blackjack in the casinos but in the sopranos and other mob media such as "gotti" or "goodfellas" you see backroom cardgames where they are actually playing cards. To have a actual table where you can actually play cards instead of just hitting 2 buttons, think of red dead 1's mechanics with poker. would make illegal gambling operations an actual problem for cops to deal with and it would be cool to have backroom games where players can actually participate in the card game instead of using a URL to simulate the experience. I have seen addon's such as what I'm describing on the workshop which could work with diverges current add-on list. Any questions to how this could actually be used or any disagreements you have let me know in the reply's and i can go further in detail on the suggestion

So two things in response to this. You were both banned as you were both involved in the situation. Just as you were involved in metagaming a mugging like 30m earlier. Where you received a metagame note (I should really extend this for the continued metagame you admitted to) It's the same in my opinion as if you were walking around with someone actively breaking the rules and actively knowing they'd be breaking the rules. With you admitting to being in a VC with him I can't argue that you weren't spurring him on in the moment to do so. Especially with you yourself mentioning that you didn't like the exact business you then targeted. I'm sure you can see how this looks

Ardm is an IC issue RDM is what we punish but if it's ARDM it can be dealt with in many IC ways Have a good night

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+1 UNPK tupac and perma ban sidoolavich

aye, would be intresting to watch this one... but it was a good discussion with you gr1mmy... P.S so "attempted" rdm is ok? ;D

We'll see where it goes. Also the cop shooting you Is an IC issue. If however he killed you then it's an RDM which becomes a staff issue Him simply shooting you Is not rdm

an rdm is not an IC issue, a cop breaking the rule of not giving enough time to respond is also not an IC issue... the cop breaking protocol if thats what you mean, i agree with you... but RDM is also against the rules... thus, not ICly... (could ALSO be dealt with ICly but does not have to be... otherwise EVERY rdm can be dealt with ICly but not OOCly...) the car, he "fled"... you admitted it and admitted the UA used that wording too. are we honestly not allowed to get cover and HAVE to jump out at that spot getting run over 50 fucking times BEFORE i can shoot the cop who's already spam tazed me and arrested me? yea, its THAT spot... outside BL where everyone speed races that stretch lol since it was still within the 5 mins, a cop doing lethal force first can not lead to a PK if defending oneself. tupac also said he aint paying shit for this one lol

The cop shooting him was RDM But him returning and Rdming the cop who wasn't trying to arrest anyone and simply walking down the street at that time caused me to not warn either party as both were in the wrong. At the end of the day if a cop shoots you it's an IC Issue. But you can Actively Respond to it in an Active Situation On that note He cannot shoot from the drivers seat but if he got out of the car whilst being shot at or at the bottom of the road and THEN Returned fire. Wouldn't have been a PK. And on that topic walking up to three officers and Gunning one down isn't really "Valuing" One's life when there's two other armed officers next to him

Hey gr1mmy, first thing first, you be right and sorry on my behalf about it... but secondly, he cant exactly shoot from the driver seat can he? people be talking about hopping out the car to shoot but in all fairness these people probs shoot glocks in a firing range sideways and wonder why they cant hit shit but concrete... let alone cover since they be walking tanks on steroids whom bullets can not kill because milenial plot armour... the rule states it written down... he fled... its even in laws... to "flee" in a car is a felony resisting otherwise your words here of him "not flee'ing but leaving peacefully" would affect the laws too, would they not? ""When we'd finally come to a decision we noticed a member of UA Was available and also requested his input on the topic. Where 4Lights agreed with me that you'd Left the situation. Fled the area and that interaction was over."" you also said it yourself... "fled"... he didnt do it at 4 mins or 6 mins thus pushing the boundries... he done it within 2 mins... didnt die between then and now the situation of killing the cop, the cop didnt die, they was waiting around to see.... otherwise im allowed to do this too if i became a cop? you setting a bad standard for when another cop just shoots and hits a person "but its not rdm its just you "fled" but not really you left the situation despite bleeding on the dash of the car and still hurt from the bullet..." he was still hurt from the bullet... it didnt "undo" because he fled... this is a typical scene of so many accidental rdms and even a standard about the cop doing lethal action FIRST... the only disagreement is "ohh you fled so its ended" when in the rules it states you are allowed to return within 5 mins with a weapon.... it was not tupac's fault nor choice that the cop decided to shoot straight after an order and randomly hit people he did not intend to shoot... otherwise aint that also not giving enough time to obey an order? 5 seconds right? hell.... Aint that rdm or at the very least a reason to shoot the person within the timelimit? if not remove all our PO's for accidental crossfire please and while you're at it please remove felonies for evading police in cars since its not "flee'ing"... i like that standard actually... on all the games iv played, iv not seen as much flip-flopping of the rules to help out friends and the like as much as this...

Hello please do not flood this appeal with messages if you aren't involved in the appeal Aside from that here's the reason why you were Pked for this situation. Not only did you leave the situation but you also re-engaged and shot the officer with no context (Yes he attacked you prior but that situation had resolved when you successfully fled) On the topic of this specific PK I Wasn't sure if it was a PK Myself So i went and got the opinions of other staff. SuleG Ka1 Gustavo (Moderator) When we'd finally come to a decision we noticed a member of UA Was available and also requested his input on the topic. Where 4Lights agreed with me that you'd Left the situation. Fled the area and that interaction was over. You then went and Re-Engaged with them Rdming the cop before being killed by the other officer on the scene.

Just to remind staff that when I asked for a PK on my cop char it got rejected because Konrad Samuel hit someone with his baton 4 minutes ago and the guy just pulled out his gun didn't get to shot and he got mowed down and nothing happened.

Is it his problem that the cop didn't know who he was but still shot him? I don't see your point, he killed him within the 5 minutes.

if i shoot at a car thinking someone in it... but im wrong... and hit someone else.... who gets punished? lol he done it within 120 seconds too, so well within the 5 mins mark aint no bent cunt who RPs as paul blart above the rules. shook....

no?

you seriously defending a cop who shot at a car driver for what reason? shit i randomly shoot a car because i hear someone i want but i hit the wrong person? i'd get punished... bro you a cop main or something? ok with stupid shit from your lowers?

wallahi, he could have got out that car and shot back when he actually got shot, returning minutes later when the situation is gone and the cop didnt even know who he was to kill him was silly on his part. im not even involved in this, i just had to educate this fool. cop baiting has a price when u miss ur shots

The violent confrontation with police is its own rule aswell. Since the situation was more than over and u went and blicky'd that nigga i think its fair to say you initiated a new confrontation there. DONT YOU EVER DUMB REACT ME AGAIN PIPSQUEAK

6: You may kill in self defence or in defence of your partners/faction/property (Must have F3). When you've been attacked by an aggressor and survive (you did not aggravate or bait them to hit you) you may return with a weapon to kill them. +1 Brochacho

You may not kill someone or escalate a confrontation to murder just for verbal disrespect/argument. -However if someone continues to disrespect you, you may physically intimidate or hit them. (Fists, melee weapon) As continued disrespect could realistically start a fight. The user then has free choice on how to respond/retaliate. If they choose to flee you may not kill them. a. If the user is attacked they may flee and return later (5 minutes maximum) to exact revenge on the assailants as described under killing rule 6. b. If the user is subject to an active threat via knife or gunpoint they can choose to retaliate or instead leave peacefully. However they may not return later to attack them without sufficient reason as the previous situation had already ended. check letter A out you berk Shook. he fled, didnt resolve it peacefully did he? lol na i know what you gona say... he resolved it by shooting back from the driver side, but it was also somehow peaceful... >.>

How does me knowing he would do it make me guilty. Its his choice and i didnt make him do it. Yes we were in a VC and he said he would go in and do it.

brochacho, you dont get pk'd if the cop initiates the violent confrontation. The violent confrontation ended then two minutes later you went and shot the cop. ur retarded, you initiated a NEW violent confrontation. -1!!!!

Oh yes because i would want to help him powergame against a fac that pked me from when i first started playing like 6 or 5 months ago