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Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. After reviewing the situation, there was another situation you were involved in where a fail mug had occurred. This is the mug attempt by harbor where you attempted a mug while someone was in a car. Under the mugging/FearRP rules, someone inside a vehicle can only be held under FearRP if the mugger is within 5 feet, has the weapon pointed at them, is ordering them out, and the vehicle is fully stopped, blocked, or immobilized. FearRP does not apply to someone in a moving vehicle. In this situation, the car did not stop at all during the clip, and you gunned the driver down. Because that standard was not properly met, it has been deemed as a fail mug. In the above situation, your actions were came after your friend open fired and the other side did try to fire back at your friend, thus making okay for you to return fire. However, I do think the situation did not follow proper escalation rules, so staff was in the right to get involved and issue punishment. This does not fully excuse your actions, so the appeal is accepted as a reduction rather than a full removal. The ban will be reduced to 3 days.

DAMN i didnt know any of that bro

Hi. I am the member of staff who dealt with this situation. There were 3 of you guys who Mass RDMed, a lot of tickets came in about RDM and after looking in the logs and checking all the kill/death logs, multiple people came back under the kills. After going to the location of some of the kills, you guys were by the park shooting people after moving away from Little Israel and one of the members of your group was micspamming cringe Erika and you were all laughing about it. All 3 of you conveniently had Kosher Nostra characters that were all PKed so it seems like you had a grudge against them. Regardless of you being misled by someone else, you guys have an extensive history of notes and bans about RDM and Metagame situations, I would advocate for this appeal to be denied and for you guys to remain banned. I do not believe that 2/3 weeks is long enough time served to really learn from your mistakes. STEAM_0:1:551887511 - POs for Metagaming & MRDM STEAM_0:1:942516962 - POs for Metagaming & MRDM STEAM_0:0:155431577 - POs for RDM

Or counter point, learn like everyone else and roleplay?

+ fucking 1

Honestly this happens pretty often. After sitting down and getting back up, or after getting run over by a car, basically anytime you get knocked into a fallover state and then stand back up, your whole body turns invisible except for your head hitbox. After a little while it fixes itself, or you can type record 1; stop in console and it instantly fixes it. Long story short, the bug usually happens after a fallover or after sitting down and standing back up. Example: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mUKqaanZnZML-WMMN?invite=cr-MSwzYUcsMjcyODgyOTUw&v=12

If you have a reliable method of reproducing the bug outline the steps here.

Bad faith market manipulation over multiple chars would be too easy.

+1

+1 x2 equals 2 +1s

+1

+1 jesus i need this, or some rp way to do it, like going to some other npc who tells you the market prices and maybe their last price aswell

These are really decent guys i was wondering what happened to them, i dont think i would ever say they had no intention to roleplay. +1

+1

I get it, Mr. professional gambler, but not everyone has millions to throw around and walk out of the casino like it’s nothing Some people just want to enjoy their free time with small amounts of money. We used to have those tables before the map change, so I just wanted to give it a try and see if we could bring them back.

The companies who have casinos have to want them, buddy. They are money sinks.

I support this! +1

Make the ticket.

WE want the roulette table to be brought BACK to the new casino.

Gambling is bad for you.

Good luck to anyone trying to start up a new character

It isnt considered a Fail Mug. It's just not a smart thing to do. If you try to put someone under FearRP while they're already holding a gun in their hand (even with the safety), FearRP doesn't apply to them. That means they can attempt to defend themselves without the risk of being PK'd. However, if they manage to kill the muggers, the muggers will be PK'd. So while it's definitely a risky and unwise mug attempt, BUT it isn't a Fail Mug. Short answer to the question in the topic is No. If someone tries to apply FearRP on you while you already have a gun in your hand and attempts to mug you, you are allowed to defend yourself without the risk of being PK’d. However, if you manage to kill the attackers while doing so, they will be PK’d.

I never denied any of the points you made. The issue is that, according to the RP rules, the fact that the guy's intentions may have been obvious doesn't change anything. He had the right to make the first move, and you can't kill someone based on what you think they're about to do. For you to legally kill someone, they need to give you a reason by becoming an Active threat. The fact that he would most likely have tried to kill you doesn't give you the right to kill him before he actually attempts anything.

The rules are public access are y'all illiterate?