Rule Suggestion: Prohibit mugging while not wearing any clothing "White Shirt"

[Console]

The Problem:

Right now, players are initiating mugs while completely unclothed, leaving them in the default "White Shirt" state. Because our rules already state that actual fresh spawns cannot mug, seeing someone in a white shirt creates confusion.

Players are abusing this by intentionally removing all of their clothing to:

Bait & Confuse Victims: They trick people into thinking they are harmless new spawns who aren't allowed to mug, exploiting that false sense of security to pull off an easy robbery.

Zero-Risk Criminality: They risk absolutely none of their actual clothing items or gear other than a gun if the mugging goes wrong and they get killed or caught.

Honestly it's just bad rp, being white-shirt is like being naked and requires no effort.

The Proposal:

Make it an official rule that players must be actively wearing clothing to initiate a mugging. If a player is not wearing any clothing items (meaning they are in the default "White Shirt" state), they are prohibited from robbing other players.

If a player uses restraints on another player, they cannot change or remove their clothing for the entire duration that the situation is active like it is already the case when they take damage. Other players who did participate in the mugging should not be allowed to leave the situation while being a white shirt until they reach a safe spot.
 


Server Precedent:

We already know this state causes issues because during the last Racket Reshuffling Event, players in white shirt were not permitted to participate. The staff team already recognized that the default white shirt state disrupts competitive fairness and clarity. We should simply extend that exact same logic to daily server life regarding muggings and hostile RP.

[KingJewMonaclu]

this guy 100% got mugged tonight

[Mateo G]

+1
lwk kinda agree i mean clothes are like 500$ for like cheap clothes at clothes store so thats a easy thing to counteract

Edited 2 hours ago by Mateo G
added +1

[Console]

Just now, KingJewMonaclu said:

this guy 100% got mugged tonight

Thank you for your concerns, but I have not even been on tonight.

I actually think the server would benefit from this. 

[KingJewMonaclu]

3 minutes ago, Console said:

Thank you for your concerns, but I have not even been on tonight.

I actually think the server would benefit from this. 

Ok then let me tell you why this is dumb.

 

Bait and Confuse Victims: You should not be flagrantly refusing to be mugged because of your OOC belief that it's a whiteshirt. Roleplay it. Assume its a real guy. I've never heard this in my entire time as staff, someone going "Well I thought it was a fail mug because they didnt have expensive clothes". Usually people who are mugging people are wearing nothing or wearing clothing store outfits, both of which you would assume is a new person if you aren't aware of their identity. Having clothes on doesn't change the dynamic. But, more on that -

Risk - They are risking their character. Not wearing expensive clothes *to a mugging* doesn't actually mean anything for the risk. Unless they gave their clothes away *prior to the mugging*, which is actually still allowed so long as it doesn't come back to them. It really doesn't matter. 

 

None of this actually matters. If it's a fail mug, it gets reversed, we get the items back, if they're unrecoverable because its on an individuals person and they refuse to relinquish, we pk the char and just spawn you new clothes. You taking a decided risk to shoot at someone during a mugging is just short sighted, low IQ behavior and completely on you. Don't shoot at someone during a mugging on the chance that it's "A new player, and it will be reversed." If you're going to take that gamble, you're going to lose that gamble.

Literally everybody who gets mugged ever immediately thinks its a "Mugging char" or a "Fail mug", as noted by every single ticket that is made in the aftermath of a mugging. Every single one. "Can  you check if this is a mugging char, he had shitty clothes on" or whatever, the exact same logic you're using. But those people aren't dumb enough to risk their character on a hunch because of a perpetrators fashion choices.

[tj21003]

IMA BE SO FR White shirts are up to no good 90% of the time you should expect some shit ngl

[KingJewMonaclu]

17 minutes ago, tj21003 said:

IMA BE SO FR White shirts are up to no good 90% of the time you should expect some shit ngl

yeah honestly thats a fucking downgrade. I'd always anticipate a whiteshirt. I would NEVER anticipate someone wearing super expensive clothing

[RevampedRebel]

Realistically when it comes to the mugging rules as they already exist I think it's reasonable to ask that they not do it in white shirt disguise.