PK appeal

[Jairzinho]

Name of Character: Lyrlcc Brennan

Character ID: 169239

SteamID: 76561198276591318

Your Discord ID#: 276024386304344075

Date of PK: 6/28/1990

Reason for PK: idk

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: Fail Mug, Target Mug.
First thing Popov are straight up target mugging Kinahan all the time.
Second thing i had my tool gun out on the menu checking for lights then i tab out and i see a guy with a gun and saying hands hands, anyways i tried to look who it is and i saw that one of them is popov and its matador, and the other is a person who doesnt work for popov which shows thats a target mug and we already have a ticket up for target mugging always. I didnt have time to put my hands up like i was saying i wanted to put a light up the building so i was like panicking on what to do i even had my keys out so i can put my hands up but like i said no time given they didnt even count down or give me time to turn or put my hands up. 

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n0DMRlrAdcuZofTdp?invite=cr-MSxmaFQsMjAxODI5NTQy&v=17

[Sauerkraut]

so you do know why youre pk'd?

[Matador1812]

Hi! Guy who mugged and killed you here!

 

1. You were given 11 seconds from the first FEAR RP command, which was put your hands up, I had my homeboy literally shout it at you (if you were deaf)

2. The man that was with me is on the Popov whitelist and is a main character.

3. You were all by yourself in a yellow zone in a quite frankly, very low traffic area. We seen you alone, with no firearm out, waiting by yourself for around 3 minutes... This isn't targeted, you were an opportunistic lick last minute. 

 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n0CVHEVGUcySve4mh?invite=cr-MSxLVDcsNDMzOTIyNjc5&v=21

 

You were armed with a Glock-17, you had plenty of time to try and pull it out... Sorry

[Jairzinho]

The man that was with me is on the Popov whitelist and is a main character.
explain this while one popov was on hahahahahaha
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n0E87yBJ6gZIkkgmZ?invite=cr-MSxCWUksMjAxODI5NTQy&v=27

 You were all by yourself in a yellow zone in a quite frankly, very low traffic area. We seen you alone, with no firearm out, waiting by yourself for around 3 minutes... This isn't targeted, you were an opportunistic lick last minute. 

^ and about this i did the advert multiple of time theres no way didnt come bc of the adverts

[Netanyahu]

7 minutes ago, Matador1812 said:

Hi! Guy who mugged and killed you here!

 

1. You were given 11 seconds from the first FEAR RP command, which was put your hands up, I had my homeboy literally shout it at you (if you were deaf)

2. The man that was with me is on the Popov whitelist and is a main character.

3. You were all by yourself in a yellow zone in a quite frankly, very low traffic area. We seen you alone, with no firearm out, waiting by yourself for around 3 minutes... This isn't targeted, you were an opportunistic lick last minute. 

 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n0CVHEVGUcySve4mh?invite=cr-MSxLVDcsNDMzOTIyNjc5&v=21

 

You were armed with a Glock-17, you had plenty of time to try and pull it out... Sorry

Would you pay the 2nd time? 

[Matador1812]

7 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

The man that was with me is on the Popov whitelist and is a main character.
explain this while one popov was on hahahahahaha
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n0E87yBJ6gZIkkgmZ?invite=cr-MSxCWUksMjAxODI5NTQy&v=27

 You were all by yourself in a yellow zone in a quite frankly, very low traffic area. We seen you alone, with no firearm out, waiting by yourself for around 3 minutes... This isn't targeted, you were an opportunistic lick last minute. 

^ and about this i did the advert multiple of time theres no way didnt come bc of the adverts

I am not on the Popov Whitelist.

[Jairzinho]

4 minutes ago, Netanyahu said:

Would you pay the 2nd time? 

Crazy hahahaha who even cheats in gmod holy shit

[Jairzinho]

4 minutes ago, Matador1812 said:

I am not on the Popov Whitelist.

stop the cap 

Edited 16 hours ago by Jairzinho

[Bullets]

Hello, I was the staff member that approved the PK.

After reading your appeal and in the sit you claimed that you had your toolgun out so you couldn't react, but from the clip you had provided showed you weren't even in the Q menu when they initiated fearRP and you can press F7 with any swep in your hand so it doesn't really make sense why you bring that up as defense.  But he gave you around 10 seconds to comply with his orders and you decided to take your time and eventually got shot for being slow.

The response Trumader provided seems highly probable in my opinion because I have personally mugged somebody in that area due to the lack of foot traffic and it just makes sense the more dead areas become more dangerous.  I can't personally speak on the target mugging claims because I haven't personally seen or heard anything about that.  If UA seems this was targeted for no reason then there is a possibility of this being reverted but from how I see the situation it looks completely valid.

[Jairzinho]

13 hours ago, Bullets said:

Hello, I was the staff member that approved the PK.

After reading your appeal and in the sit you claimed that you had your toolgun out so you couldn't react, but from the clip you had provided showed you weren't even in the Q menu when they initiated fearRP and you can press F7 with any swep in your hand so it doesn't really make sense why you bring that up as defense.  But he gave you around 10 seconds to comply with his orders and you decided to take your time and eventually got shot for being slow.

The response Trumader provided seems highly probable in my opinion because I have personally mugged somebody in that area due to the lack of foot traffic and it just makes sense the more dead areas become more dangerous.  I can't personally speak on the target mugging claims because I haven't personally seen or heard anything about that.  If UA seems this was targeted for no reason then there is a possibility of this being reverted but from how I see the situation it looks completely valid.

do i have to have my hands up they couldve just cuffed if they wanted

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Jairzinho

[Akira]

Hello, I'd like to point out a detail that nobody seems to have noticed. This PK should not be considered a valid PK. In the clips provided by both sides, I noticed something. While they were mugging him, Matador's friend can be heard saying, "Put your hands up F7" This can be clearly heard around the 10 second mark of the clip provided by the player who submitted the PK appeal.

Additionally, as clearly stated in the Mugging Rules, Rule 10. specifically states that telling or indicating to a player to press F7 to raise their hands significantly disrupts RP standards. As a result, the mug is considered invalid and cannot be used as the basis for a PK.



As clearly shown in the clip, while holding a player at gunpoint and applying FearRP because they refused to put their hands up, you tell them to press F7. At that point, you might as well tell them not to touch their mouse or keyboard during your next mug 


when I tried to point out to the genius admin handling the PK Bullets, that there was a clear rule violation here, the response i got was "People say F7 all the time"
That is very unlikely to be true. I have watched many valid mugging and PK clips, and I have never heard a mugger say “F7” in any of them.

In the end of this PK appeal, we will find out something important, do the rules written on the forum actually get enforced or do things depend on an admin’s personal decision about whether it should count as a PK or not?

Edited 11 hours ago by Akira

[money blue]

25 minutes ago, Akira said:

That is very unlikely to be true. I have watched many valid mugging and PK clips, and I have never heard a mugger say “F7” in any of them.

 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mvT2rLi6XApA4e0Vn?invite=cr-MSxlbkQsMzMwODc5MDY&v=47 

What about this one? Retard!

[yunghayvo]

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[Akira]

7 minutes ago, money blue said:

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mvT2rLi6XApA4e0Vn?invite=cr-MSxlbkQsMzMwODc5MDY&v=47 

What about this one? Retard!

I remember this situation because I was in the same faction as Ronnie at the time. After watching the PK clip, we told him multiple times that he should appeal it, but he chose to accept it and move on.

Also after that situation Kosher HC apologized to Taka HC for what happened and even made a payment for saving your ass. It would’ve been better if that part was also mentioned instead of trying to flex the situation.

Edited 11 hours ago by Akira

[sigil]

9 hours ago, Akira said:

Hello, I'd like to point out a detail that nobody seems to have noticed. This PK should not be considered a valid PK. In the clips provided by both sides, I noticed something. While they were mugging him, Matador's friend can be heard saying, "Put your hands up F7" This can be clearly heard around the 10 second mark of the clip provided by the player who submitted the PK appeal.

Additionally, as clearly stated in the Mugging Rules, Rule 10. specifically states that telling or indicating to a player to press F7 to raise their hands significantly disrupts RP standards. As a result, the mug is considered invalid and cannot be used as the basis for a PK.



As clearly shown in the clip, while holding a player at gunpoint and applying FearRP because they refused to put their hands up, you tell them to press F7. At that point, you might as well tell them not to touch their mouse or keyboard during your next mug 


when I tried to point out to the genius admin handling the PK Bullets, that there was a clear rule violation here, the response i got was "People say F7 all the time"
That is very unlikely to be true. I have watched many valid mugging and PK clips, and I have never heard a mugger say “F7” in any of them.

In the end of this PK appeal, we will find out something important, do the rules written on the forum actually get enforced or do things depend on an admin’s personal decision about whether it should count as a PK or not?

back then from what i remember people say F7 just in case the victim didn't know the command and it looks like the guy didnt know the command or was just stalling time to make a move 

especially if the victim is taking too long to put hands up and press F7 and people do say f7 majority of time due to these reasons

Edited 2 hours ago by sigil

[sigil]

9 hours ago, money blue said:

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mvT2rLi6XApA4e0Vn?invite=cr-MSxlbkQsMzMwODc5MDY&v=47 

What about this one? Retard!

back then from what i remember people say F7 just in case the victim didn't know the command and it looks like the guy didnt know the command or was just stalling time to make a move 

especially if the victim is taking too long to put hands up and press F7 and people do say f7 majority of time due to these reasons

[sigil]

15 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

Name of Character: Lyrlcc Brennan

Character ID: 169239

SteamID: 76561198276591318

Your Discord ID#: 276024386304344075

Date of PK: 6/28/1990

Reason for PK: idk

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: Fail Mug, Target Mug.
First thing Popov are straight up target mugging Kinahan all the time.
Second thing i had my tool gun out on the menu checking for lights then i tab out and i see a guy with a gun and saying hands hands, anyways i tried to look who it is and i saw that one of them is popov and its matador, and the other is a person who doesnt work for popov which shows thats a target mug and we already have a ticket up for target mugging always. I didnt have time to put my hands up like i was saying i wanted to put a light up the building so i was like panicking on what to do i even had my keys out so i can put my hands up but like i said no time given they didnt even count down or give me time to turn or put my hands up. 

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n0DMRlrAdcuZofTdp?invite=cr-MSxmaFQsMjAxODI5NTQy&v=17

No Popov isnt target mugging your faction, they have mugged others, its just so happens your people are constantly looking quite weak on the street to the people that are in the mugging business and when these people are in that line of work roaming the streets of new york to find a victim because thats what they do in that business they get whiff of you, plain and simple.

some muggers look for weak fish some look for big fish some do it for the love of the game.

Edited 2 hours ago by sigil

[sigil]

10 hours ago, Akira said:

Hello, I'd like to point out a detail that nobody seems to have noticed. This PK should not be considered a valid PK. In the clips provided by both sides, I noticed something. While they were mugging him, Matador's friend can be heard saying, "Put your hands up F7" This can be clearly heard around the 10 second mark of the clip provided by the player who submitted the PK appeal.

Additionally, as clearly stated in the Mugging Rules, Rule 10. specifically states that telling or indicating to a player to press F7 to raise their hands significantly disrupts RP standards. As a result, the mug is considered invalid and cannot be used as the basis for a PK.



As clearly shown in the clip, while holding a player at gunpoint and applying FearRP because they refused to put their hands up, you tell them to press F7. At that point, you might as well tell them not to touch their mouse or keyboard during your next mug 


when I tried to point out to the genius admin handling the PK Bullets, that there was a clear rule violation here, the response i got was "People say F7 all the time"
That is very unlikely to be true. I have watched many valid mugging and PK clips, and I have never heard a mugger say “F7” in any of them.

In the end of this PK appeal, we will find out something important, do the rules written on the forum actually get enforced or do things depend on an admin’s personal decision about whether it should count as a PK or not?

And also how do u know for certain the mugger was so genuinely demanding on him to press F7 to the point where the mugger is forcing the victim to press that command. Instead of him just genuinely letting him know that hey this is the command just in case u dont know it, tricky one no? from the mugs ive seen, people do this, majority of the time to let people know that this is the command to surrender so u dont fucking die, and from the looks of it the guy in my opinion wasnt forcing him to press that command only letting him know the options. so thats why the admin here in this situation said "people say f7 all the time" based off what i explained, from the looks of it the mugger was doing him a favor in letting him know.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by sigil

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, sigil said:

No Popov isnt target mugging your faction, they have mugged others, its just so happens your people are constantly looking quite weak on the street to the people that are in the mugging business and when these people are in that line of work roaming the streets of new york to find a victim because thats what they do in that business they get whiff of you, plain and simple.

some muggers look for weak fish some look for big fish some do it for the love of the game.

Who does bro think he is

[sigil]

Him ordering that f7 junk sure invalid pk, Informing on the other hand, i dont see any thing about that in the rules as far as im concern. He's also a violent aggressor, its his character choice of larp, so anything he may say will sound like a ordering of some sort, and especially after all the times the fellas said "Hands" or "Put your hands up" and he still didn't F7, so it made them think that he didnt know the command, in my eyes from seeing the clip the guy informed him not ordered. 

Ordering and Informing are two different things, I rest my case.

Edited 11 minutes ago by sigil

[sigil]

36 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Who does bro think he is

im just speaking mad facts brother