Question About Conflict Rules

[Akira]

I have read all of the rules multiple times and paid close attention but I could not find any rule or level information explaining whether the two factions involved in an official conflict enter a lockdown period (hire block and main character requirement)

I also asked several long time players who have experienced previous conflicts or wars in the city. Some of them told me that this lockdown is temporarily lifted before the war starts in order to give both factions a fair chance. However I am not sure if this information is accurate.

Could someone explain how this system works in general?

• Why is the lockdown applied?
• Under what conditions is it removed?
• Is it true that the lockdown is temporarily lifted before an official war begins?

I would appreciate it if someone could clarify and provide more information about this situation.

[MrlogicNova]

1 minute ago, Akira said:

I have read all of the rules multiple times and paid close attention but I could not find any rule or level information explaining whether the two factions involved in an official conflict enter a lockdown period (hire block and main character requirement)

I also asked several long time players who have experienced previous conflicts or wars in the city. Some of them told me that this lockdown is temporarily lifted before the war starts in order to give both factions a fair chance. However I am not sure if this information is accurate.

Could someone explain how this system works in general?

• Why is the lockdown applied?
• Under what conditions is it removed?
• Is it true that the lockdown is temporarily lifted before an official war begins?

I would appreciate it if someone could clarify and provide more information about this situation.

That’s level 5 escalation I’m fairly certain either that or it’s level 6

[MrlogicNova]

Nvm I read that wrong I’m retarded

[Matador1812]

2 hours ago, Akira said:

I have read all of the rules multiple times and paid close attention but I could not find any rule or level information explaining whether the two factions involved in an official conflict enter a lockdown period (hire block and main character requirement)

I also asked several long time players who have experienced previous conflicts or wars in the city. Some of them told me that this lockdown is temporarily lifted before the war starts in order to give both factions a fair chance. However I am not sure if this information is accurate.

Could someone explain how this system works in general?

• Why is the lockdown applied?
• Under what conditions is it removed?
• Is it true that the lockdown is temporarily lifted before an official war begins?

I would appreciate it if someone could clarify and provide more information about this situation.

Supreme Team is sweating hella bullets rn

[Akira]

Just now, Matador1812 said:

Supreme Team is sweating hella bullets rn

 

[calink]

Faction lock to my knowledge started being used in the UA vs Commission war last year, but maybe it was a thing prior, I wouldn't know.

Basically it keeps things fair in conflict.

In Supreme v Popov's case, I think it's fair to say if there was no faction lock both of their alliances (and wider friends) would be mass creating characters in their faction, and then the conflict becomes 'who has more friends who can effectively mugging char them to victory'

I don't know the official 'ruleset' behind its use in conflict, but for us, we had a 24/48 hour hiring and ordering period when escalation ended before the war began, I can't remember if that was intentional or not.

But yeah, the lock makes it fair - if you are a main character who truly supports and works for your faction, it's on you to show up and fight, not a bunch of alt's.

I think the more interesting thing for you to look at are the upcoming escalation levels you guys can reach. It get's pretty hardcore on your lower guys economy.

[Akira]

First of all thank you for respond and sharing what you know. However I wasnt asking this question specifically about the Popov x Supreme situation. I asked it because despite spending hours and days researching it i couldnt even find any clear rule or official information on the topic. Like you also mentioned nobody really knows the official “ruleset” behind how faction lock is used/works in conflict so I thought it would be better if someone from the UA or Canadian side could give a proper clarification for everyone.

Other than that i definitely agree with your points regarding the system being fair ETC. But if we take the Popov x Supreme conflict as an example the lockdown was implemented suddenly and very early without prior notice which meant that some people who were genuinely mains in the family were left outside the WL and cant get back in. If there had been any rule or announcement about this beforehand everyone would have been able to prepare accordingly.

(Speaking for Supreme, we dont actually need the lockdown to be lifted at all. If they really want to try their chance with a maximum of 5 people they can try their luck lol, but I dont think that would be fair or fun for anyone involved)

[Boomroasted]

The escalation rules should be viewed as a shell and starting point, not a rigid checklist. UA looks at the full situation, all factions involved, and all relevant factors before making a determination, including faction size, recent hires, main character status, alt characters, and whether anyone is trying to gain an unfair advantage.

The purpose of a lockdown / hire block is to prevent war jumping, temporary recruiting, and alt abuse. It also makes escalation uncomfortable for everyone involved, which should push factions toward a quicker resolution instead of letting the conflict drag out.

If someone was actively maining a faction but never formally set it as their main, that is ultimately on the player and their faction leadership. If they were involved enough to be impacted by the escalation, they should have seen it coming and made sure their main was properly set. Leadership also has a responsibility to warn members before things reach that point.

A lock can be adjusted or removed if UA believes the specific situation calls for it, but it should not be assumed. Unless UA clearly states otherwise, factions should treat the lockdown and main character requirements as active.

In your case, you were scared because you thought Popov was going to PK you, so you left the faction to do hits for Supreme in another faction. Once you realized there was no orders you left the other faction and now are stuck as a civ. watching from the outside. If you want numbers.....at the start of the escalation Supreme had 140 alts(More than any other crim. faction) to Popov 30 alts, for mains there were 25 for Supreme and 13 for Popov...... this was taken into account during the main lock decision. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Boomroasted

[Franzzy]

4 hours ago, Akira said:

 

Don't really see what this reply is trying to prove

[Akira]

2 hours ago, Boomroasted said:

In your case, you were scared because you thought Popov was going to PK you,

irrelevant

[dylyb]

3 hours ago, Boomroasted said:

The escalation rules should be viewed as a shell and starting point, not a rigid checklist. UA looks at the full situation, all factions involved, and all relevant factors before making a determination, including faction size, recent hires, main character status, alt characters, and whether anyone is trying to gain an unfair advantage.

The purpose of a lockdown / hire block is to prevent war jumping, temporary recruiting, and alt abuse. It also makes escalation uncomfortable for everyone involved, which should push factions toward a quicker resolution instead of letting the conflict drag out.

If someone was actively maining a faction but never formally set it as their main, that is ultimately on the player and their faction leadership. If they were involved enough to be impacted by the escalation, they should have seen it coming and made sure their main was properly set. Leadership also has a responsibility to warn members before things reach that point.

A lock can be adjusted or removed if UA believes the specific situation calls for it, but it should not be assumed. Unless UA clearly states otherwise, factions should treat the lockdown and main character requirements as active.

In your case, you were scared because you thought Popov was going to PK you, so you left the faction to do hits for Supreme in another faction. Once you realized there was no orders you left the other faction and now are stuck as a civ. watching from the outside. If you want numbers.....at the start of the escalation Supreme had 140 alts(More than any other crim. faction) to Popov 30 alts, for mains there were 25 for Supreme and 13 for Popov...... this was taken into account during the main lock decision. 

One might say, BOOM, ROASTED!!

[Akira]

43 minutes ago, dylyb said:

One might say, BOOM, ROASTED!!

Thats just his sweet side dont worry