About Leaving The Faction WL

[Hg0tros]

Ever since I started playing on the server, one thing has always seemed unclear: whether leaving a family is a valid PK reason or not.

The rules clearly state that doormen and newer members cannot simply be PK'd, but every staff member seems to have a different opinion on where the line is drawn. Some admins have approved my orders and activated PKs for people who left the family without permission, while others have told me the order wasn't valid because the person never touched the racket or got involved in illegal activities (such like growing weed, using barge NPC etc..)

I'm not here to argue my personal opinion on the matter. I just want a clear answer because the rulings seem inconsistent depending on who handles the ticket.

So, Is leaving a family without permission a valid PK reason, or not? 

@Canadian-bacon Sorry for the ping, but it'd be great if we could get a direct answer from you and finally clear this up once and for all.

[RealLaCreatura]

15 minutes ago, Hg0tros said:

Ever since I started playing on the server, one thing has always seemed unclear: whether leaving a family is a valid PK reason or not.

The rules clearly state that doormen and newer members cannot simply be PK'd, but every staff member seems to have a different opinion on where the line is drawn. Some admins have approved my orders and activated PKs for people who left the family without permission, while others have told me the order wasn't valid because the person never touched the racket or got involved in illegal activities (such like growing weed, using barge NPC etc..)

I'm not here to argue my personal opinion on the matter. I just want a clear answer because the rulings seem inconsistent depending on who handles the ticket.

So, Is leaving a family without permission a valid PK reason, or not? 

@Canadian-bacon Sorry for the ping, but it'd be great if we could get a direct answer from you and finally clear this up once and for all.

It's valid only if they touched racket or were a certain rank

[Canadian-bacon]

It's listed in the PK rules

[Canadian-bacon]

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 If they have left the gang/family without approval from the leader, while holding the position of made man+ (or appropriate equivalent), they may be subject to a PK. Entry level associates who are not made or deeply committed to the organization may leave without harm as their position is low and they know very little. (Security, waiters, doormen, drivers, etc) <You will be asked to provide evidence of rank> This does not apply if they have partaken in felony criminal actions, drug manufacturing/murder/robbery/etc that are directly related to your faction. (However these actions must be verified). Generally under most don's orders.

This 'left faction' reason is valid for 2 weeks after the individual leaves your organization. If you failed to notice or care before those two weeks expired then clearly this person was not important enough to warrant going after. (Exceptions made if they snitch, falls under a different pk reason) However note that the target not logging on does not affect your ability to place the hit in-game. So give the in-game order before the 2 week expiration, regardless if they log in or not and you will still be permitted to carry out the hit later down the line. (Be careful! If they have already joined a new gang you may have to have an in-game sit down to sanction the hit or you may risk damaging your reputation with the faction they are now in)

CAUTION: This is the MAFIA, the don can LIE to you about having permission to leave, they can tell you you may leave, lowering your guard, and once you do, have you killed for leaving the faction. They have the same 2 weeks left orders timer to do so. "They gave me permission to leave but I didn't leave and they still pk'ed me" This falls under don's orders and by requesting to leave you demonstrated to the Don you are not committed to the faction, thereby giving him valid reason and suspicion to place don's orders against you.

 

[Hg0tros]

21 minutes ago, Canadian-bacon said:

 

I'm aware of this rules, but some staff members are claiming that you can PK someone no matter what if they leave the WL. I don't want to name anyone here, but if needed I can provide screenshots showing this.

So just to clarify the final point: if they're entry-level associates, not made, and not deeply committed to the organization, and it's just a brand new member who leaves the faction, then you can't issue a PK order for them, correct?

[xDutchCat]

11 minutes ago, Hg0tros said:

I'm aware of this rules, but some staff members are claiming that you can PK someone no matter what if they leave the WL. I don't want to name anyone here, but if needed I can provide screenshots showing this.

So just to clarify the final point: if they're entry-level associates, not made, and not deeply committed to the organization, and it's just a brand new member who leaves the faction, then you can't issue a PK order for them, correct?

Well for those who call it valid whilst its clearly not. Thats why these appeals exist you can appeal when you feel its invalid. They can leave aslong as they havent done anything illegal witnessed or touched the racket.

[Kyle Waladang]

4 hours ago, Hg0tros said:

I'm aware of this rules, but some staff members are claiming that you can PK someone no matter what if they leave the WL. I don't want to name anyone here, but if needed I can provide screenshots showing this.

So just to clarify the final point: if they're entry-level associates, not made, and not deeply committed to the organization, and it's just a brand new member who leaves the faction, then you can't issue a PK order for them, correct?

basically what dutch said as long as they have done something illegal and touched the racket then if they leave they can be pked, however if they remain a legal char and just order oil for a day or nothing at all they are considered "low risk" according to the rules and thus cant be pked just read over the family pk rules it lays it all out their