Eugene "The Law" Le'Cassier PK appeal

[Holiday]

Name of Character: Eugene "The Law" Le'Cassier

Character ID: 50773

SteamID: STEAM_1:0:138039649

Your Discord ID#: kyngholiday

Date of PK: 03/31/26

Reason for PK:

At the time of the incident, I believed I was being repeatedly targeted and followed by certain police officers, which led me to act irrationally. During a traffic stop for reckless driving, I was removed from my vehicle, which I interpreted as escalation toward arrest. In a lapse of judgment, I discharged my weapon at the officer, believing there were no additional witnesses or officers nearby. This assumption was incorrect, as there were people in the distance and present in the area.

Why should you be unPK'd?: 

Yes, I did initiate a violent confrontation initially, so I understand being PK-active in that moment. However, the rules specifically emphasize that this applies “during” the confrontation, not after the situation has clearly ended. After the initial incident, I disengaged. I put my weapon away, fled multiple blocks in a vehicle, crashed, and then continued running on foot. At no point after that did I re-engage officers or present an immediate threat. At that stage, this was no longer an active shootout. It had turned into a pursuit. The PK guidelines themselves clarify that situations are only valid while they are ongoing, and not after the encounter has ended and transitioned into something else.

              Additionally, under NYPD SOP:

• Firearms are a last-resort option, only to be used when there is a reasonable belief of imminent danger
• Excessive force is defined as force used when it is no longer necessary or when the need for force has passed
• Officers are expected to use the minimum force necessary to control a situation

             At the time lethal force was used, I was:

• No longer actively engaging officers
• No longer holding or using a weapon
• Actively fleeing, not posing an immediate threat to life

Because of that, the use of deadly force doesn’t seem to meet the SOP standard of an immediate threat, and instead falls closer to force being used after the necessity had already passed. Also, the noticeable time gap (20+ seconds) between the initial confrontation and the kill further shows this was not a split-second self-defense decision, but force applied after the situation had already de-escalated. 

As far as the PK guidelines, they repeatedly emphasize that actions must occur “during” an active situation. Once a suspect disengages and creates distance, that situation is no longer the same active confrontation. In my case, there was a clear break: (1) I fled multiple blocks, (2) crashed, and then chose to (3) continued on foot. This created a new scenario -> a pursuit. not a continuation of the original shootout.

I also believe the way the situation was handled leans into powergaming rather than roleplay. After a clear break in the initial confrontation where I had already fled multiple blocks, Mason Peralta continued to use lethal force roughly 20+ seconds later instead of transitioning into a pursuit and arrest scenario. They had 3 police cars in the area, 2 officers actively on scene, and multiple additional units in the city, so there were clearly other alternatives available to handle the situation without resorting to lethal force. At that point, the situation realistically should have been played out through continued RP (chase, detainment, or surrender), rather than forcing a kill to secure a PK outcome. Using lethal force after the threat has ended, especially when other RP avenues are available, bypasses the intent of the rules and removes meaningful interaction in favor of a guaranteed result.

Lastly, the PK rules explicitly state that officers may not execute suspects and should attempt arrest when possible. Given that I was fleeing and no longer engaging, this should have remained an arrest/pursuit situation rather than escalating to a PK. Overall, I understand the risk I took by initiating the situation, but based on how the events unfolded afterward, I don’t believe I met the criteria of an active, immediate threat at the time lethal force was used.

 

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpeMafHHmQ2WTkLNZ?invite=cr-MSxVcEosMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=108
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCv5BJVptEcoJh4j?invite=cr-MSwybUQsMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=62
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpBizCuHMPe_cqqqc?invite=cr-MSw5dEksMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=29
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCn8Q6fHdLKe2Gt-?invite=cr-MSw1RjEsMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=241
I have the "Clip #4" in a google drive pending inquiry.
 

[MrlogicNova]

Hello the officer who pked you I had no idea who you were until yesterday so I have no idea where you think you got the idea of targeting from. As it states in the pk guidelines if you kill a cop you are pk active to any member of the nypd for 15 mins the only  reason I chose to open fire upon you was because you decided to shoot officer Ben Tudor for a pulling you over then instantly drove of who is also a completely different officer to the one you stated is targeting you that officer was William McFarland. You pulled a gun shot a cop infront of me I killed you sorry you lost ur char but you took the risk and it didn’t go well

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCpvvsul9IxbDI8d

here is the pk clip 

Edited 11 hours ago by MrlogicNova

[MrlogicNova]

2 hours ago, Holiday said:

Name of Character: Eugene "The Law" Le'Cassier

Character ID: 50773

SteamID: STEAM_1:0:138039649

Your Discord ID#: kyngholiday

Date of PK: 03/31/26

Reason for PK:

At the time of the incident, I believed I was being repeatedly targeted and followed by certain police officers, which led me to act irrationally. During a traffic stop for reckless driving, I was removed from my vehicle, which I interpreted as escalation toward arrest. In a lapse of judgment, I discharged my weapon at the officer, believing there were no additional witnesses or officers nearby. This assumption was incorrect, as there were people in the distance and present in the area.

the claim that there were no witnesses is stupid as  in my clip I was legit across the street standing there.

 

 

[MrlogicNova]

2 hours ago, Holiday said:

Name of Character: Eugene "The Law" Le'Cassier

Character ID: 50773

SteamID: STEAM_1:0:138039649

Your Discord ID#: kyngholiday

Date of PK: 03/31/26

Reason for PK:

At the time of the incident, I believed I was being repeatedly targeted and followed by certain police officers, which led me to act irrationally. During a traffic stop for reckless driving, I was removed from my vehicle, which I interpreted as escalation toward arrest. In a lapse of judgment, I discharged my weapon at the officer, believing there were no additional witnesses or officers nearby. This assumption was incorrect, as there were people in the distance and present in the area.

Why should you be unPK'd?: 

Yes, I did initiate a violent confrontation initially, so I understand being PK-active in that moment. However, the rules specifically emphasize that this applies “during” the confrontation, not after the situation has clearly ended. After the initial incident, I disengaged. I put my weapon away, fled multiple blocks in a vehicle, crashed, and then continued running on foot. At no point after that did I re-engage officers or present an immediate threat. At that stage, this was no longer an active shootout. It had turned into a pursuit. The PK guidelines themselves clarify that situations are only valid while they are ongoing, and not after the encounter has ended and transitioned into something else.

              Additionally, under NYPD SOP:

• Firearms are a last-resort option, only to be used when there is a reasonable belief of imminent danger
• Excessive force is defined as force used when it is no longer necessary or when the need for force has passed
• Officers are expected to use the minimum force necessary to control a situation

             At the time lethal force was used, I was:

• No longer actively engaging officers
• No longer holding or using a weapon
• Actively fleeing, not posing an immediate threat to life

Because of that, the use of deadly force doesn’t seem to meet the SOP standard of an immediate threat, and instead falls closer to force being used after the necessity had already passed. Also, the noticeable time gap (20+ seconds) between the initial confrontation and the kill further shows this was not a split-second self-defense decision, but force applied after the situation had already de-escalated. 

As far as the PK guidelines, they repeatedly emphasize that actions must occur “during” an active situation. Once a suspect disengages and creates distance, that situation is no longer the same active confrontation. In my case, there was a clear break: (1) I fled multiple blocks, (2) crashed, and then chose to (3) continued on foot. This created a new scenario -> a pursuit. not a continuation of the original shootout.

I also believe the way the situation was handled leans into powergaming rather than roleplay. After a clear break in the initial confrontation where I had already fled multiple blocks, Mason Peralta continued to use lethal force roughly 20+ seconds later instead of transitioning into a pursuit and arrest scenario. They had 3 police cars in the area, 2 officers actively on scene, and multiple additional units in the city, so there were clearly other alternatives available to handle the situation without resorting to lethal force. At that point, the situation realistically should have been played out through continued RP (chase, detainment, or surrender), rather than forcing a kill to secure a PK outcome. Using lethal force after the threat has ended, especially when other RP avenues are available, bypasses the intent of the rules and removes meaningful interaction in favor of a guaranteed result.

Lastly, the PK rules explicitly state that officers may not execute suspects and should attempt arrest when possible. Given that I was fleeing and no longer engaging, this should have remained an arrest/pursuit situation rather than escalating to a PK. Overall, I understand the risk I took by initiating the situation, but based on how the events unfolded afterward, I don’t believe I met the criteria of an active, immediate threat at the time lethal force was used.

 

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpeMafHHmQ2WTkLNZ?invite=cr-MSxVcEosMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=108
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCv5BJVptEcoJh4j?invite=cr-MSwybUQsMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=62
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpBizCuHMPe_cqqqc?invite=cr-MSw5dEksMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=29
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCn8Q6fHdLKe2Gt-?invite=cr-MSw1RjEsMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=241
I have the "Clip #4" in a google drive pending inquiry.
 

You didn’t flee multiple blocks u were down the street the whole time. The time frame for the situation was 38 seconds not multiple minutes aswell. I’m sorry but the lies in question to try and get ur char back aren’t going to work. NYPD SOP has no control over the PK guidelines therefor it claim that the sop means I couldn’t do it is a IC issue not a pk appeal issue. The 3 other police cars in question where following a F1 car that crashed into u when u where fleeing after hospitalising a police officer which you have also left out of ur appeal I wish you luck in the future but that’s all I have to say 

Edited 10 hours ago by MrlogicNova

[Holiday]

Firstly, I’m not disputing that I became PK-active after shooting an officer. I’ve already acknowledged that and accepted responsibility for initiating the situation. The issue isn’t whether I was PK-active, it’s how the situation was handled afterward, and whether the use of lethal force still met the server’s PK standards at that point. The PK guidelines state that situations must occur “during” an active confrontation, not after it has clearly transitioned. Even by your own timeline of ~38 seconds, there was a clear separation between the initial shooting and the moment I was killed. During that time, I fled the scene, put distance between myself and you and other officers, and did not re-engage. That’s the key issue, this was no longer an active shootout, it had become a pursuit.

Secondly, regarding your claim of witnesses. You being across the street doesn’t change the fact that from my perspective I believed I wasn’t being actively engaged by multiple officers at that moment. That statement wasn’t meant to mislead, it was explaining my reasoning in the moment, even if it was incorrect. It served to elaborate on my perspective of the situation, which is in the clip presented. 

Thirdly, on the distance/time point, whether it was “multiple blocks” or “down the street,” the important part is that there was a break in immediate engagement. I was no longer actively firing or presenting a weapon. The situation had shifted into me fleeing, which under both the PK guidelines and general RP standards, should be handled as a pursuit unless there is still an immediate threat.

Fourthly, regarding SOP, you’re correct that SOP alone doesn’t override PK rules. However, it is still relevant because the PK guidelines themselves state that officers may not execute suspects and should attempt arrest when possible. SOP helps define what is considered reasonable force in that context. At the time I was shot, I was unarmed, fleeing, and not actively engaging, which raises the question of whether lethal force was still justified versus continuing the pursuit.

Lastly, I’m not trying to “lie” or misrepresent anything to get my character back. I’m laying out how the situation looked from my perspective and why I believe it no longer met the criteria of an active, immediate threat at the time lethal force was used.

At the end of the day, this comes down to whether staff view this as a continuous active confrontation?- or a situation where there was a clear disengagement?- followed by lethal force after the fact.

Edited 2 hours ago by Holiday
Irrelevant ending

[MrlogicNova]

if this gets accepted its just going to make people think that shooting cops and driving away means they cant pk you if they shoot you ur retarded for shooting a cop for pulling you over for running a stop sign may i add as its legit RDM.

[joeeey1]

8 minutes ago, MrlogicNova said:

if this gets accepted its just going to make people think that shooting cops and driving away means they cant pk you if they shoot you ur retarded for shooting a cop for pulling you over for running a stop sign may i add as its legit RDM.

aren’t you too young to even be in PD? #removelogic #metoo