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im sorry is this reddit

+1 yall some haters, doing drivebys with a tommy gun in a '40s ford deluxe is like one of the quintessential mafioso tropes.

if you're 'diving by' a target you're doing the same # of damage (if not less, depending on accuracy) whether or not you were walking, driving, or on a roof- only difference is you're just getting away quicker. if it was done with bad intent - now there are two separate people (driver/gunner)- (im under no impression that people will be driving and shooting at the same time) that receive punishment punishment- which doesnt sound real meaningful but both of whom presumably have been on the server long enough to get money, buy an smg+ (usually including getting factioned/firearms ids) , id say most people who've been on that long are generally no more of a risk to be a minge than our server base the only restrictions id suggest are (maybe) restricting assault rifles+ and also preventing people from being able to shoot out of delivery vans, work trucks, and city taxis e: imo another important restriction; you'd need to prevent people from putting away vehicles that have been involved in pks/hits for at least 10 minutes

bring back the fbi and make cops pkable bam reddit gold now plz

+1 i see the vision and kinda like the idea. if its automatic, replacing a 4x constrained entity with a single high res model for like 60 ppl who have a car out might allow for more 'vehicles' that can be out at a time (maybe just not used at a time) i just dont know how feasible this is, a lot would need to be hashed out around the idea like if idle vehicles can be stolen, defaced, etc but thats also not my job lmao

+2 i cant think of a good reason not to have something like this when its baked into most vanilla forms of coloring items

i was there i aint see his ass

+1 plug in another react we can used to boo and -rep dumb mfs too

one thing causing this is surrendering. whenever you un-surrender (even in a car) all attachments reset and disappear until you re-log your char

im pretty sure the third time is the charm

soft +1 i could see this in a lot of rp scenarios ngl. definitely abusable but maybe not that bad it'd be important that you would need a firearm and/or a lethal amount of drugs in order to kill yourself which would help keep people from just making characters just to chain kms in businesses. could also see lobbing yourself off of a tall building but thats incredibly abusable. if you're poor and wanna die; go to the train tracks. dying by subway should be an autopk. period. if you have someone feeding items to chars to keep kmsing then thats a problem of its own imo staff intervention would be balls for something like this- there would be hardly any point in adding it if you needed to get a staff approval each time. might as well just /me it if thats the case. i could see this being used is when its a split second decision. end of the pursuit and wanna dodge jail time and know you're cooked? pull the trigger did you just rat and your family has worse plans for you? go out on a high note and stuff your face in 5 baggies of blow/heroin just got caught being corrupt and cant save face? smoove off. only issue i could see is this being used nefariously by factions as a way to shirk responsibility for shady-reasoned pk's by making noob associates kms (even this is a stretch) that being said; there would be zero ability to appeal a suicide pk; thats the end all be all. theres no regretting suicide irl, so second thoughts are your own oopsie ultimately not having it isn't missing anything, but if you ask me there should be an opportunity for more dead bodies around the city that aren't just automatically homicide victims

great; now show us when OOC was removed in this graph too

bump

+1 bump

gmod mob bosses too lazy to make their own millions so they make a faction to have people do it for them lord forbid a mf delegate something

+1 was thinking that this should be available to shitizens of new york (including working classes) however citizen classes would need to pay more as they don't get a 'distributors price' not owning/working for a business, to keep restaurant prices competitive

been thinking about this for a little and had to ask somewhere; whats so wrong/bad about people being in the back of vehicles? people have been riding in truck beds/the back of vehicles ever since their inception irl and yet we have seem to have an unspoken OOC rule that seems to forbid people from doing such in character; somehow its failrp, nitrp, or some other hammed up reason that i've come across in the past- but truth be told there is nothing unrealistic about the practice. whenever i've asked staff about it in the past they've given me a firm no and cautionary warning against it and while happy to oblige at a staff's discretion on rules- after a cursory glance there is no real server/vehicle rule around the practice. i dare not risk the practice in RP when it would matter having that nebulousness surrounding it- still theres a part of me that is curious as to whether or not you can be allowed to use it as a medium for transport or even going as far as use in drive-by's if in a time of conflict. people would still be liable to the dangers that are implied in standing in an open truck bed (i.e. falling out or ragdolling) and its very clearly/obviously illegal to have an unsecured passenger (no less one firing a weapon), but again it is hardly unrealistic. can there be some clarity on this for future reference? if there are issues surrounding performance or otherwise that keep it from being viable that is fine; but perhaps if thats the case there should be an addendum to the vehicle rules to help cement it because as it stands all we have is a gentleman's agreement.

+1 trolls are pissing their pants realizing they might not be able to set up hi-fis in front of businesses anymore for the sake of trying to fuck peoples day maybe some of us dont wanna have to spam stopsound in console because you knew blasting little israel adverts/pack smoker at full volume right outside the building in 'public' might be annoying

+1 big fan of this. ive only been mugged twice now but both times when it has happened ive been left in either a locked room or far tunnel still bound and blind. massive pain in the ass and usually the worst part about getting mugged the only real way to get out of this is meta or praying your captor does the right thing. if you take damage or are moved while trying to undo bindings it could halt/reset your progress- and should be considered fair warning against escaping as i imagine trying to get away would put you under fearRP and liable for PK if your captors are still there. there also should probably be a rule against a captor just waiting for someone to break their binds and not ‘warning’ them in effort to stop people using it as a way to bait PKs

i understand the perspective and that everyone has their own preferences for gameplay- and im sure most of us have done something once or twice that wasn’t the most rp-inclined thing at an off hour. your example is a great one for why we shouldn’t get comfortable doing that on the server. i count multiple fresh to the city folk who have no idea what they’re doing and this probably isn’t the best precedent to set for them. as aforementioned i can only see it being used as a crutch for the people coming onto this server strictly to try and hone their skills, check weapon stats, etc- but additionally it would shell a chunk of the exchange that takes place between people and weapon stores. what’s the point of asking around for what weapons and attachments are good if you just get told ‘bro….. just go on the ffa server and find out’. optimistically an outlet would still be nice. as much as i personally don’t like the idea, the build server could realistically be able to host a more sandbox setting where people can switch between pvp/build modes. in prevention of people trying to min/max the shit out of an IC weapon build; every single weapon would likely need to be modified in movement, damage, RoF, recoil, draw, etc- until its marketably unrecognizable compared to the main server weapons. (i love your optimism, but there are definitely people trying that hard. we have some real urchins around here if you look for them) it seems like it may be more hassle than it’s worth when we could just get GMs to break up the monotony for people looking for a breather from the RP with more occasional events. it really depends though, because i could also see a big enough chunk of people wanting something like this to make it happen

we got rid of ooc

coming from the community that was willing to make a bot strictly to react /w dumb emotes yes

how does it cut that deep

map update; chairs are being welded to the pawn shop guard rail

wait, then what is the prompt for then? might as well pay for his college and into his 401k is this actually a bad thing? 95% of them are denied anyway instead of exerting a power that should be authorized as a faction leader (who doesnt want a person in their faction), instead allow for (insert shitbag here) to play an ooc system and have contractually no real way to get PK'd? at best its a guy doing bare minimum weekly, at worst you've found the perfect loophole for rats to try and make PD more powerful by having immunity they'll happily bring to staff every day of the week if their con isn't convincing