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  2. Are you that angry at me because I mugged on a garry's mod server? I got over the PK like a month later man, do I live in your head rent free? You are ACTUALLY schizophrenic over me.
  3. Well.... Ummm. You kind of where the first causality so you didn't really kill anyone? List of Trumader lies. 1. Targeting Mugging SoS for OOC drama 2. Saying 3 Russians mugged when infract you only had 2 in the faction and has been proven with screenshots showing only 2 online at the time of Reach's Death. 3. Wrench's Involvement. I know you have a soft spot for the little lad (paying for his unban) but dude is blacklisted from mugging by Canadian Bacon himself. You 100% Used him as a scout to tip toe around him being involved in the mug. You have one of the worst reputations on this server for your actions. Do you ever just sit back and think "What the fuck am i doing"? You are surrounded by purchased friends. I never really had a problem with you. You showed me the ropes in SoS in the beginning days and I was truly upset with your killing. Your actions as a person showed me later on why they killed you because you are unstable. I still remember our discord call where you said "I will burn SoS to the ground" and "If your not with me your against me". You have OOC slandered us anyway you can over the year and have on MULTIPLE occasions target mugged are faction and DM'd people about it dropping off Kuttes in random locations with Subliminal messages. The proof has straight up been brought before your eyes in Reach's Post above and you just overlook every little thing. This conversation is over UA will decide the outcome.
  4. A lie about what exactly, you are stripping hairs for absolutely nothing, freaking the fuck out. This isn't even about the validity of the PK itself, you're just bitching and moaning because I killed your DON
  5. Hey man sometimes you just get caught in a lie ya know? Well sometimes is most of the time for you.
  6. >Changes the goal post SOS try not to bitch and scream challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
  7. Im not a prospect Pymp. I'm the gentleman that blew your shit smooth off. There were 2. In Reach's Clip it shows only two are online so there's another lie for big matador.
  8. Why are you crying like a retard, you are not exempt from mugging because I was mean to you. I've mugged 30-50+ People over my time on diverge, Reach is one in 50, you're not special. Wrench wasn't scouting for us, there was 3 russians, not 4. Nobody sent anybody to scout, you're schizophrenic and a paint huffer, I never seen somebody weep so heavily over getting mugged. Pick yoself up prospect
  9. nigga applied for staff while he is banned massive +1 tho
  10. Explain the fresh char thats mugging with you and is scared to pull out his weapon until shots fired? Explain its a 4 man group with only 2 russians? Explain why Wrench is Scouting for you. We are not retarded here Matador. You are a well known bull Shitter. Also to Quote your other point of "why now" I can give a few reasons below 1. Your Banned all the fucking time. 2. Your pked all the fucking time awaiting your donation ticket 3. You never had the balls until your character had a life warrant out and was wiling to throw your life away with help from your known meta gaming possie. You are a well known meta gamer lets not forget the last time you got your homeboy to hop on and give you a plea when you were facing life and Admins had to step in.
  11. I'm sure UA Will take the time to come to a proper verdict so if you are directly involved with the situation have your "Proof" / "Evidence" Ready for when they reach out
  12. I didn't mug anybody, that was somebody else and I heard about it, it was funny to bring it up though. The prospect mugging and the reach mugging didn't have the same people involved. I'm sure UA already told you that though lmao.
  13. Hello. I'm the Pking staff involved in this situation. There are a few things I'd like to say with this situation. With your clip I Can finally confirm that at 12 seconds neither of them were looking at you or had you in a Line of Sight with the 90* Cone of view a mugger is allowed With this situation however as you mentioned yourself you did pull out a Toolgun whether accidental or not which could be confusing when the muggers see the person they are holding under FearRP Pull out what looks to be a weapon and open fire. Immediately after that he Reattempts placing you under FearRP At 00:13 Which with this attempt you are Successfully kept under FearRP And given orders to "Don't Move" and "Face the wall" From 13 Seconds and onwards you did break Fearrp ignoring the commands given. and both moving whilst turning around to face your muggers Whilst still technically being within the Cone of sight that is permitted for a mugging with (Multiple Muggers) involved I Will also directly quote and explain this "I also find it weird that it was about a 12 hour delay from the mugging to me actually dying. Also after the mugging, Trumader had gotten himself killed again by cops and when he died a body didn't spawn at the scene of the mugging with mine. It was only after Trumader dying to cops that an attempt to file a PK ticket was made to my knowledge." With your PK i was going to drop Trumaders body aswell however Wickers had already Pked him for leaving the server during sentencing. Making it impossible for me to PK an already dead character HOWEVER I did also put his name in the same PK Log as yours to further enforce that he should be deceased from this situation. and when it comes to the delay in your PK. There is no written timeframe that a PK Must be followed within Here is also the mugging POV Of you with your Toolgun aimed towards them as your POV Doesn't show what they saw when that occurred with how Crouching works in the server it looks more like a weapon being drawn hence why they opened fire I Can also say without a doubt at that point in time where you put it away they could've killed you but chose not to and with the Dms between Timberr and Asapyeti i can now understand why that occured and that should be taken into account by UA With the "We had no restraints" Context I'm sure UA Will take all messages into account when making a final decision on the matter and i hope the right decision is made in this situation with all the evidence you have provided. thank you for taking the time out of your day to compile all of this proof and send it in bulk. Here are the rules involved that led to me accepting this PK at the time for clarification's sake 1. You must value your character’s life. This means that you naturally do not want your character to die. (FearRP) Breaking this can result in a PK at the Staff’s Discretion 1. While under fearrp it's recommended you oblige by the commands of your captor, if you attempt to escape or pull out a weapon to fight back but are killed that would display a disregard for your own safety, a calculated risk you took which failed, resulting in your PK. (In some circumstances a PK does not apply, view pk rules for more information.) This means it is NOT a rule violation to break fearrp but if you are killed while breaking it there is a possible IC consequence of being PK'ed. 3. If you're holding someone under Fear RP and issue them orders/warnings not to do something and they disobey you may kill them. However, one single warning/order will not suffice, multiple warnings in a very short time span will also not suffice, you have to give them adequate time to react. 6. If the person with the weapon puts it away or turns his line of sight (Meaning the user has turned completely away and is not even slightly facing you. Usually at an angle of larger than 90 degrees), fearRP becomes null and you may take the window of opportunity to retaliate with little to no risk. (Does not apply if multiple weapons are pointed at you) This mugging also Occurred within a Building making it a Raid instead as per Mugging Map Logic so the following rules also apply 1. If you are killed during the robbery/raid it will result in a PK. (This results in Trumaders PK) 2. Those defending against a Robbery/Raid are NOT pk active. (Except against a Police Raid or if Fear RP is broken) (This is why your friends weren't Pked when defending you) These are the Mugging rules that Technically apply with the FearRP / Raid as well 1. Be cautious! If you are killed while committing a mugging you have the possibility of being PK'ed (Permanently killed)! (This would be another reason why Trumader should be Pked from this situation) Mugging Rules 7. You may only kill the victim if they DO NOT comply with your demands. Victims that comply are to be left unharmed. 9. There are several ways you may initiate a mugging, the following actions can be considered initiation of a mugging - Holding someone at gunpoint with the intention of mugging them - Holding someone at gunpoint or cornering them while wearing a mask which obscures your identity may also be a valid indication to the victim that you intend to mug them 11. When can you kill someone in a mugging for it to be considered a PK? - You must FIRST, properly initiate a mugging (See Mugging Rule 9.) - They attempt to fight back while you have them at gunpoint/fear rp. (Does not apply if you disengage fear rp. See fear rp rules) (This would be the Toolgun Confusion) - If they disobey direct orders multiple times (while under fear rp) which leads to complications in the mugging. ex: Refuses to stay still and moves one or two steps at a time to try and escape, refuses to stop talking leading to someone over hearing the mugging. -- 11. Fearrp no longer applies when you shoot and/or damage the victim, they may retaliate without risk. Whilst i understand this rule exists in the situation leading to when you were shot however if we take this into account then it sets the precedent of people being able to pull out a tool gun during a mugging to get shot and then not fall under FearRP Which is retarded. TLDR: I Deemed this a Valid PK Only having the Muggers Clip and without that Restraint Information being brought to light until AFTER The PK (Please do not reply to the Appeal unless you are directly involved)
  14. You mugged a prospect the day before Pymp. Then went on the famous Matador Boast train to make sure everyone knows.
  15. Waiting 2 months to mug the same faction is extremely generous, should you guys be immune to mugging and then complain when it finally doesn't go your way?
  16. So you're saying, the entire reason I mugged reach NOW, a year later, not any sooner, is because I'm still salty? So am I barred from mugging reach because SOS PK'd me a year ago? You're delusional pymp
  17. Target Mugging for OOC reasons is against the rules Pymp. Your salty and have always been salty against SoS because they slimed you out.
  18. Incorrect Punisher was Popov.
  19. You're reaching so hard here. This wasn't even Popov or the Russians; it was Supreme people. The situation you're referring to was overturned because a completely random person joined the mug who had already told you guys he intended to target mug you. He died during the mug, and we had literally met him that same day. Despite that, we still went ahead and filed the PK, PK'd both individuals, and took their banks. And to be clear, that was targeted mugging on one person's part. That individual was factionless at the time. The other two people involved were a Supreme Underboss and a Supreme Made Man. They weren't Popov members, and I hadn't even joined Popov when I mugged that SoS member you're referring to and I dont even be mugging anymore lol its been quite awhile since ive mugged I had no part in the mug but i have seen all the context to your mug in specific and it was NOT targetted however YOU tried to Target Mug Bait them and failed lol You're taking two completely separate situations and trying to tie them together as if they're the same thing. They aren't. The fact that one individual in a previous situation had targeted-mug intentions doesn't mean every mug involving different people is automatically targeted. Get the factions and the actual circumstances straight before using that situation as evidence against this one. Keep in mind we never knew that factionless guy before that and we never played with him again after, he gave us all his banks and we submitted the pk cause he got me like 500k off his banks lmao
  20. Just went over the mugging rules as a refresher (I'm rusty lol) Target mugging isn't against the rules. Afon lied about Wickers UAV'ing for him so taking what he said in the same sentence and applying it here is also retarded, he was crashing out because we wrote orders. The other screenshot of me is clearly in response to Clarence, telling me the mug was a waste because I died, you still ended up dying when you didn't even need to do so :Shrug: . As for the rest of the "Evidence" it's either not against the rules or us gloating that you did some dumb ass shit that got you killed. -------------------------- Just because I died with the restraints does not make it invalidated, you are still a threat, you broke fear RP and died in the confrontation. All you had to do was continue to face the wall and you would've been fine. There was a delay because so many staff refused to even look at the mugging clip and make a verdict besides Yugi. We seen the woman go into the bar, we actually jumped out of the car until we seen her in there, so we got back in and drove around the block again, we don't know who that was, we didn't need anybody to metagame for us, all of the muggers were in the car and you were sitting RIGHT infront of the door everytime we drove by, so, metagame for what exactly?
  21. Today
  22. Also here is the last case of Russians target mugging SoS from about ~2 months ago. It got overturned after proof was shown of them randomly, without regard to escalation rules, target mugging. Edit: Idk if Drakarus was involved with my mugging but it's funny that he was involved with the other.
  23. He didnt tell the truth he was just crashing out lol
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