Pkd and Confused about why I was

[ONeil]

Name of Character: Alejandro Sosa

Character ID: 64760

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:38085694

Your Discord ID#: the_oneil

Date of PK: 11/12/2026 around 11pm PST

Reason for PK: I'm not exactly sure

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: After being Pkd I learned it was conducted by SOS, so I feel I need to start by explaining the situation I had with SOS almost a year ago. So, to begin with, this character hasn't been in a faction for almost a year, and when I was last in a faction prior to the 26th of this month, I was in SOS and had paid the million dollar kick up, which allowed me not to pay kick ups within their faction. This was during the time when Sosa had taken over the faction of SOS, during which time I was active in the faction. Later on, Reech took over SOS, and during his time I largely went inactive in the faction and was focusing on my Judge char, who was later in the DA's office. Mind you, during this time, this char was in SOS, and mind you, I wasn't required to pay kickups at this time due to the Million Dollar kick up I had paid. Then, around late March/early April, I think it was I noticed I was kicked from their Discord and was confused by it given that I hadn't been on that char for a while. I then thought about how, in the past, when Revamped was the leader of SOS, they had removed inactive people from the Discord. I then figured, well, that's probably why they kicked me. So I hopped onto my SOS char, went to the Dead Dog, as it was called at the time, and asked if I could get invited back to the Discord. I was then told Reech wanted to talk to me first, so I went to the warehouse next to the Dead Dog, and I spoke with Reech. At that point Reech told me he was removing me from the faction since I'm inactive and don't contribute anyways. I then pointed out that I had paid the million dollar kick up under Sosa and wasn't required to pay kickups per the perks that they had at the time for paying that kickup. He then stated that I didn't pay him that, so it didn't matter, and that if I wanted to join back, I needed to start paying kickups or give them another million dollar kick up since it wasn't given to him. He then followed up that or I needed to go get my cut (SOS VEST) and any other cuts (SOS VEST) I have and give them to them and leave. To which I went and got the only cut I had and gave it to them, and we then called staff to unwhitelist me from the faction, to which staff came and told us that I just needed to click F1 and leave the faction. To which I did, and then the SOS let me out of their Compound. After this, I have been on this Char a few times and even had conversations with people in the SOS a few times and never had an issue, and never bothered them or them me till now, when the day I joined another Faction on that char. After joining another faction on the morning of the 26th, I started buying and processing bricks till i had to get off. During that time in the morning, I didn't have any interactions with anyone in SOS or anyone outside of my own faction. I then got on to play on the night of the 26th and was again buying and selling bricks, not interacting with anyone, and then walked to the ATM to depo and was shot in the back and PK'd. Discord Logs will show I was kicked from the faction Discord before I was informed I was being removed for inactivity and then later set PK active.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: Not sure if of any currently. 

Edited 7 hours ago by ONeil

[Gr1mmy]

Erm. Heya! Pking staff involved.

You were set active five months ago. on the 24th of May.

This occurred before you left the faction as i was the member of staff who also took that ticket and told you that you can leave through the F1 Menu.

I'm not entirely sure why it took so long for your death however i can without a doubt confirm this was supposed to take place at some point as the faction you were within never attempted to set you inactive after writing the orders for your removal. HOWEVER..

You were killed by the same person who had received the orders on a previous character which was since Pked. Which I'm sure UA Will look into thoroughly and attempt to restore this character because of the character abuse involved with someone having orders written dying and then doing the hit on another character. Within the same organisation.

And if not then i suggest you collect all possible evidence for your claims should they decide to investigate the situation further.

[ONeil]

1 hour ago, Gr1mmy said:

Erm. Heya! Pking staff involved.

You were set active five months ago. on the 24th of May.

This occurred before you left the faction as i was the member of staff who also took that ticket and told you that you can leave through the F1 Menu.

I'm not entirely sure why it took so long for your death however i can without a doubt confirm this was supposed to take place at some point as the faction you were within never attempted to set you inactive after writing the orders for your removal. HOWEVER..

You were killed by the same person who had received the orders on a previous character which was since Pked. Which I'm sure UA Will look into thoroughly and attempt to restore this character because of the character abuse involved with someone having orders written dying and then doing the hit on another character. Within the same organisation.

And if not then i suggest you collect all possible evidence for your claims should they decide to investigate the situation further.

After some searching DMs, I discovered that I was removed from SOS on 5/23/2026, not on the 24th. So orders were set after they and you had me leave the faction using F1, per the instructions provided by yourself and them. If that's relevant. I sent this DM to Psykho, who at the time was staff and is now a former staff that I thought was in SOS, to tell what happened. On 5/23/2026 showing that I was remove on the 23rd meaning that orders were given on the 24th. I'm certain he can confirm this in fact. If I'm not mistaken, this would make the orders void, given that all was done as they and yourself instructed. 

Edited 9 hours ago by ONeil

[ONeil]

This is a screenshot I have from during the time when I had god tier from my million dollar kick up, which, by SOS's own rules, made me exempt from paying kick ups in the SOS. Reach used my lack of kick ups as his reason for giving me the choice to either start contributing or leave (stay Kicked). This shows that by his own faction's rules, I was at the time he had me removed for not contributing to the faction that I was in fact exempt from paying kick ups by his own faction's rules.

 

Edited 10 minutes ago by ONeil

[ONeil]

2 hours ago, Gr1mmy said:

Erm. Heya! Pking staff involved.

You were set active five months ago. on the 24th of May.

This occurred before you left the faction as i was the member of staff who also took that ticket and told you that you can leave through the F1 Menu.

I'm not entirely sure why it took so long for your death however i can without a doubt confirm this was supposed to take place at some point as the faction you were within never attempted to set you inactive after writing the orders for your removal. HOWEVER..

You were killed by the same person who had received the orders on a previous character which was since Pked. Which I'm sure UA Will look into thoroughly and attempt to restore this character because of the character abuse involved with someone having orders written dying and then doing the hit on another character. Within the same organisation.

And if not then i suggest you collect all possible evidence for your claims should they decide to investigate the situation further.

Could you also state the reason why they had me set PK active?

[Gr1mmy]

2 hours ago, ONeil said:

Could you also state the reason why they had me set PK active?

I Cannot state why they had you set active however all staff have access to that information at this point in time.
 

3 hours ago, ONeil said:

This is a screenshot I have from during the time when I had god tier from my million dollar kick up, which, by SOS's own rules, made me exempt from paying kick ups in the SOS. Reach used my lack of kick ups as his reason for giving me the choice to either start contributing or leave. This shows that by his own faction's rules, I was at the time he had me removed for not contributing to the faction that I was in fact exempt from paying kick ups by his own faction's rules

Faction rules are not Server Rules. So this part doesn't matter as much. Not only can Don's Lie to you and still set you active but they can also give you a false sense of security so that their efforts to kill you do not fail in the future. The main issue at hand is that this PK Would've been valid without a question of a doubt if a different person would've shot you. The only problem here is that the individual who shot you is on a new character and is acting on behalf of orders that were written months ago to his previous character. which UA Will need to make a verdict on.
 

4 hours ago, ONeil said:

After some searching DMs, I discovered that I was removed from SOS on 5/23/2026, not on the 24th. So orders were set after they and you had me leave the faction using F1, per the instructions provided by yourself and them. If that's relevant. I sent this DM to Psykho, who at the time was staff and is now a former staff that I thought was in SOS, to tell what happened. On 5/23/2026 showing that I was remove on the 23rd meaning that orders were given on the 24th. I'm certain he can confirm this in fact. If I'm not mistaken, this would make the orders void, given that all was done as they and yourself instructed. 

I Distinctly remember taking your ticket as they had set you active and then you asked how to leave a faction. that is where i told you within the PD Parking lot / Area that you could leave a faction at any given point in time through the F1 Menu and doing so without permission might hold PK Risk. Unless they were to set you active within a two week period.

As far as I'm concerned and with the rules in mind this PK Is 100% Valid. Up until the specific individual they tasked with killing you is involved.

[TMH]

4 hours ago, Gr1mmy said:

Erm. Heya! Pking staff involved.

You were set active five months ago. on the 24th of May.

This occurred before you left the faction as i was the member of staff who also took that ticket and told you that you can leave through the F1 Menu.

I'm not entirely sure why it took so long for your death however i can without a doubt confirm this was supposed to take place at some point as the faction you were within never attempted to set you inactive after writing the orders for your removal. HOWEVER..

You were killed by the same person who had received the orders on a previous character which was since Pked. Which I'm sure UA Will look into thoroughly and attempt to restore this character because of the character abuse involved with someone having orders written dying and then doing the hit on another character. Within the same organisation.

And if not then i suggest you collect all possible evidence for your claims should they decide to investigate the situation further.

Hello guy who PK'd you here. Yes the orders were written Months ago to a different char and this individual wasnt very active so it was hard to get him in a timely manner. I do want to state in the rules it does not state anything about being on a previous character. 

For your information the Don was the one that wrote the orders and also was the one who alerted me of the situation of an individual that needs to be taken care of. UA can check logs as well as I have clips of him confirming the targets appearance and name by the said individual who wrote the orders. The guy who wrote the orders was within 30 feet of the pk. 

As far as why he was PK'd. He was told to speak with our current Don in the warehouse and the conversation took a sour turn. He disrespected the don multiple times and things got a little heated. He said he did not want to be apart of what we have going on. He then dropped of his Kutte to us which we already had orders going on the said individual.

 

[TMH]

Multiple people are allowed to go after a hit once he has been set active as long as proper communications are involved which they can be proven by UA.

My old character died months ago. This guys orders were half a year ago lol.

I just read through the entire rules and found no ruling on your claims.

[ONeil]

5 hours ago, Gr1mmy said:

I Cannot state why they had you set active however all staff have access to that information at this point in time.
 

Faction rules are not Server Rules. So this part doesn't matter as much. Not only can Don's Lie to you and still set you active but they can also give you a false sense of security so that their efforts to kill you do not fail in the future. The main issue at hand is that this PK Would've been valid without a question of a doubt if a different person would've shot you. The only problem here is that the individual who shot you is on a new character and is acting on behalf of orders that were written months ago to his previous character. which UA Will need to make a verdict on.
 

I Distinctly remember taking your ticket as they had set you active and then you asked how to leave a faction. that is where i told you within the PD Parking lot / Area that you could leave a faction at any given point in time through the F1 Menu and doing so without permission might hold PK Risk. Unless they were to set you active within a two week period.

As far as I'm concerned and with the rules in mind this PK Is 100% Valid. Up until the specific individual they tasked with killing you is involved.

  Ok so let's start by clarifying some crucial points in the timeline of events. You openly stated that orders were given on the 24th however, I was told I was kicked by Reach and thus left the faction (was kicked) on the 23rd. Mind you, this was after they had already kicked me from the faction Discord, which was the event that led to me getting onto my then SOS char and then being informed I was being kicked from SOS due to inactivity. SOS Discord logs will show that they kicked me from the SOS Discord prior to me going to the compound and speaking with Reach and agreeing to leave the faction since he was already kicking me. They clearly had already begun kicking me from the faction before any orders were given. In fact it wasn't until I discovered that I had, in fact been kicked from the Discord that I then got onto my SOS char and went to the compound to inquire why I was kicked and requested to be invited back to the Discord.

 

These Facts show, indisputably, that they had already initiated kicking me from the faction prior to any orders being issued against my then SOS char. Furthermore, the fact that I actively went to the SOS upon seeing I had been kicked from the Discord shows that in no way, shape, or form did I take any active steps or threaten to leave the Faction at that time. 

 

Now one might wonder why them initiating kicking me from the Faction Discord, thus kicking me from the Faction and then stating I was being kicked for inactivity when I later spoke with them in character, is so extremely relevant. 

 

 This is due to the actual reason that Reach gave for the Don's orders after he had already kicked me from the faction for Inactivity. You see, it had nothing to do with me supposedly insulting him, as claimed by the SOS member above. The actual reason for the Don's orders Reach gave was that he claimed I threatened to leave the faction. But wait, how could this be? He kicked me from the faction, starting with the Faction Discord. Which then led to me entering the city and being informed in character that I was being kicked from the Faction when I approached him. He did mind you give me the option that if I wished to join back, I could start paying kick ups again or even pay him the Million dollar kick up like I had the prior Don so I could continue to be exempt from kick ups. However, realizing that this was a clear attempt to extort me, I then accepted that I was getting kicked from the Faction. I was then instructed to give them all faction cuts (Faction Vest) or clothing, which I then had to leave the compound and go to an ATM to retrieve, and then return to the SOS Compound to give them to the SOS, which the SOS confirmed above that I did in fact do. 

 

Now, the fact that they allowed me to leave the warehouse, where I know for a fact, as do most people outside the SOS, that several prior SOS members, as well as other people, have over the years and even recently, been PK'd there, and leave the fully fenced compound, now bear in mind I didn't do this just once I did it twice since I had to retrive all SOS clothing I had in the ATM and both times mind you Reach had me escorted through both in and out by SOS members after first kicking me from the faction discord and later the faction. This shows that they clearly didn’t have Don's orders at the time that I was removed from the Faction. Furthermore, Reach issued them, claiming I threatened to leave the faction as the reason for the PK, which was a false statement; I never threatened to leave the faction. I was content with how things were, nor did I plan to. Otherwise, why would I have gone to them and asked to be reinvited to the Faction Discord? Why would I have gone and retrieved my Faction Clothing from the ATM and returned them? Anyone who was disgruntled and threatened to leave wouldn't have returned them, they would have simply left and kept them.  Reach simply kicked me from the faction, as clearly shown by the facts stated above, which are supported by the Discord logs of the SOS Discord and server logs, both showing I never threatened to leave the Faction and was kicked prior to me being in game, and I simply chose to accept being kicked from the faction by its leader, Reach.

Now let's move into the PK rules regarding this. Under the Section Family Member Kills, it states the following: 

 

Inner-family issues should be handled by the Don of the family and will not always result in murder.

○ If they’re in your family and they have done something to directly harm the family, yourself, or another member of the family.

■ (Ex: Harm in a physical, or financial way with tangible damages)

 

■ The order must be given in-game by the Don or trusted High Command member of the family. Staff will not accept discord screenshots of orders. The person receiving the order must have the identity (f3) of whomever is giving the order, they need to know who their boss is, they can't receive an order from someone they don't know.

Reasons:
■ The person in question, has repeatedly done something to directly harm you, the family, or another member of the family. Unwarranted Harm in a financial (+10,000$) or repeated physical way, there has to be tangible damages, disrespecting someone once is not a reason to kill someone. This also means you cannot PK someone for mucking up JUST one time. Having continued issues or warnings about behaviour or disputes can cause escalation to a PK. (record the Warnings/encounters/transgressions need be)

■ Continued and repeated (despite warnings) poor behaviour, misconduct, violation of your family rules or even blatant disrespect of made men in your organization

■ Collaborating or potentially collaborating with Government / Law enforcement agencies to take harm the faction. Reasonable suspicion they are a rat. [You may be asked to provide proof]

■ Bringing 'Heat' to the faction

As a result of their reckless action or arrests they bring attention or heat to the group and are therefore too much of a risk to keep around.
Things that constitute bringing heat:

• Caused an investigation

• Caused a search/seizure/warrant to be issued and executed

• Caused a fellow faction member(s) to be implicated or arrested

• Provided information or testimony which harmed the faction (Snitching)

• Being constantly arrested on or around faction property/members; drawing attention from erratic behaviour

[You may be asked to provide proof]

Things that DO NOT constitute bringing heat:

• Having a Felony on their record

• Being arrested or detained for a minor crime

• Being arrested or detained for a crime not related to the faction

• Simply interacting with police

 

● They knowingly assaulted a made man, siding with a rival gang to harm yourself or your gang, or knowingly bring harm onto another member.

■ Financially harmed yourself or another member of the gang (+10,000$)
● Examples: If they withheld money (kick-ups), robbed/mugged/scammed a fellow member, or did something else to directly harm the gang in a financial way.

■ Actively betraying the gang.
● Examples: Intentionally ratting to the police, Intentionally setting the gang up to be attacked by rivals, or intentionally giving away information to a rival in an attempt to profit.

■ As a means of self-preservation
● If the member knowingly causes an issue with a larger organized crime group, and you desire to avoid a conflict you may work it out with said rival group to instead kill the cause of the strife. This generally would occur as apart of a deal or sit down to ease tensions between two gangs, it is a valid reason.

If they have left the gang/family without approval from the leader, while holding the position of made man+ (or appropriate equivalent), they may be subject to a PK. Entry level associates who are not made or deeply committed to the organization may leave without harm as their position is low and they know very little. (Security, waiters, doormen, drivers, etc) <You will be asked to provide evidence of rank> This does not apply if they have partaken in felony criminal actions, drug manufacturing/murder/robbery/etc that are directly related to your faction. (However these actions must be verified). Generally under most don's orders.

 

This 'left faction' reason is valid for 2 weeks after the individual leaves your organization. If you failed to notice or care before those two weeks expired, then clearly this person was not important enough to warrant going after. (Exceptions made if they snitch, falls under a different pk reason) However, note that the target not logging on does not affect your ability to place the hit in-game. So give the in-game order before the 2 week expiration, regardless if they log in or not and you will still be permitted to carry out the hit later down the line. 

 

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Now I hope everyone noticed what I notice in those rules. It would seem that the Faction leader kicking you from the Faction Discord for being inactive and then the Faction Leader after kicking you from the Faction Discord and Faction offering to let you start paying them kick ups to get invited back to the Discord and stay in the Faction, after having already kicked you, isn't a valid reason to issue Don's orders for a PK on a member of the faction… Nor is it a reason to issue Don's orders on someone after they have already been kicked from the faction by the Faction Leader who then issues the order using a false reason.  Furthermore it would seem that the Faction Leader kicking you from the Faction Discord and Faction for inactivity, and the person being kicked accepting being kicked from the Faction, doesn't seem to fall under the Left Faction reason for a PK either. In fact, it doesn't appear to truly fit anywhere in the PK rules. 

It is interesting to note, however, that the reason for the PK being issued is, in fact, a lie in order to get a PK issued on someone whom a Faction leader knowingly kicked from a faction for no actual reason other than the Faction leader clearly being jealous that the Don prior was given a kick up of 1 million from the person. Otherwise, why would he give the option to the person he claimed threatened to leave the faction, whom he, as the faction leader, actually kicked from the Faction to be invited back should he pay him? 

 With everything provided, including the Discord logs staff can review and the server logs they can review, and with the SOS's own statement as to why the PK happened from their member above contradicting the actual reason Reach gave for the PK, it's clear beyond any doubt that this PK wasn't a valid PK from the start and, in fact, had malicious intent. Reach blatantly abused his position as Don and lied to staff about his reason for the PK in order to ensure it was approved for someone he kicked from the Faction and otherwise had no actual grounds for them to be PK'd. This is clear and blatant targeting and abuse from Reach of the SOS, as I'm sure everyone can clearly see.

Edited just now by ONeil

[ONeil]

In the name of transparency, here is the screenshot showing the reason Reach provided to staff for the Dons order that set me PK active that was issued after I was already kicked from the Faction Discord and Faction in game.  

[Logan]

Remember when reach hid in the warehouses when you was tryna find him for something like a little pussy?

[ONeil]

7 minutes ago, Logan said:

Remember when reach hid in the warehouses when you was tryna find him for something like a little pussy?

Funny that was on the Char they PKd after he kicked me from the faction... I even spoke with several of his Faction members that day. Not a one tried to PK me, strange....