Revamping conflict rules

[Akira]

@Toast Mr. Granger im waiting for your respond sir thank you sir

Edited 4 hours ago by Akira
deleted the censored ai slop

[ix_crazy_xi]

10 minutes ago, velocity said:

nigga I'm 6'3 200lbs what do you expect

Annen anlatmış galiba aramızda yaşananları, ben sus demiştim oysa ki şimdi bir daha sikmem gerekecek

im 6'3 nigga i dont got fat hands like that

[Akira]

1 minute ago, ix_crazy_xi said:

im 6'3 nigga i dont got fat hands like that

we dont take cheaters seriously british dog, keep yapping if you want to

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Akira

[Houka]

11 minutes ago, velocity said:

nigga I'm 6'3 200lbs what do you expect

Annen anlatmış galiba aramızda yaşananları, ben sus demiştim oysa ki şimdi bir daha sikmem gerekecek

Bir İsrailliden daha kötü olan tek şey, bir Türk köpektir.

[ix_crazy_xi]

Just now, Akira said:

we dont take cheaters seriously british dog, keep yapping if you want to

 

you do not matter in life dirty nigger go make me a kebab coon

 

[Jennay]

if u guys r gonna argue on my suggestion u could at least +1 it

[Akira]

1 minute ago, Houka said:

Bir İsrailliden daha kötü olan tek şey, bir Türk köpektir.

idk which language you are speaking rn bro

[Akira]

Just now, ix_crazy_xi said:

you do not matter in life dirty nigger go make me a kebab coon

 

keep barking

[Houka]

Just now, Jennay said:

if u guys r gonna argue on my suggestion u could at least +1 it

Gotchu twin 

[Akira]

1 minute ago, Jennay said:

if u guys r gonna argue on my suggestion u could at least +1 it

yeah tbh u deserved it atp

[Houka]

Speak when spoken to, now sit down turkish dog @Akira

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Houka

[Akira]

1 minute ago, Houka said:

Speak when spoken to, now sit down turkish dog @Akira

besides turkish you cant even speak proper english that’s funny edit that shit immediately, homie

 

[Akira]

2 minutes ago, Houka said:

Speak when spoken to, now sit down turkish dog @Akira

yeah good boy keep listening to your daddy like that          

 

[JJ_]

48 minutes ago, velocity said:

Let's stop the cap and be honest with ourselves, that picture is pretty recent, as its metadata suggests. I wasn't expecting you to take that into account either way, you're too dumb to figure that out.

I literally give out my instagram to people who ask for it and my name is public knowledge as I went live many times in VCs showing my social media. I have 2 state protection orders in my name and own multiple cars equipped with emergency lights. Not that it matters since you and everyone else you know are harmless either way  

The only person who could remotely come close to harming me is @Akira

I understand you're among the less fortunate, I hope you get an actual job and life gets better for you so you don't have to confide in people online and have an actual life outside of a game. The fact that you're still reacting to posts proves how stupid you are.

Hello from Istanbul

Nice meat gloves in your boyfriends car

[Jason Frudnick]

There are like 2 comments here that have anything to do with the suggestion

[Bread]

1 minute ago, Jason Frudnick said:

There are like 2 comments here that have anything to do with the suggestion

i think it would be very cool if we can escalate and war if someone rizzes up the don's wife / girlfriend or something yk would be pretty funny if ZQ comes back just to defend his women

[Akira]

2 minutes ago, Jason Frudnick said:

There are like 2 comments here that have anything to do with the suggestion

as if UA ever accepts suggestions anyway bro

 

[Akira]

17 minutes ago, JJ_ said:

i like sucking cocks

 

[Burner_xo]

I agree there needs to be some kind of middle ground, but in order for that to happen people need to rp properly. Most of the motives for conflicts I've seen have just been escalated ooc.

1) There needs to be a form where people rp properly, and don't just beef for no reason, or escalate out of proportion. Made guys walking out on a bill ≠ Target mugging and tagging. This would be a verbal dispute, which in most cases should end in a big grumble where the made guys cough up the money. AND THEN THE SITUATION ISNT BROUGHT UP AGAIN UNLESS A SIMILAR ISSUE IS REPEATED.(Problem here on both ends in this server. 1. the restaurant owners instead of pressing and starting a confrontation, let them walk out and harbor the interaction for later escalation instead of handling it in rp. 2. If party 1 interacts, The made guys initially in the wrong don't correct their actions by coughing up the money. Instead just walk off and ignore the interaction.) This is just one example, but could be applied to many others. 

-Implementing easier escalation promotes overlooking small rp and just escalating when not needed. 

2) Metagaming is sadly something that needs to be considered. UAs place in escalation is for a reason, as people do just overreact, using a mix of the first problem as well as metagaming. Ex. Someone says something questionable, that under normal circumstances you would just correct and have a quick apology. BUT the person who made the comment has had interactions either ooc or on a different character with the person who was the subject of the offense. This makes the whole interaction even more escalated and out of proportions. 

-This is also something that is taken on whole faction levels. Prior leadership leaving the faction in poor standing, and instead of people larping and jumping at the fact to make a district or gain political power over another faction keep stomping the faction down due to prior interaction. (This can also be flipped, and factions who are in a very vulnerable position refuse help and rp just to stroke their own cocks. I won't name names.)

3) While letting admins handle it would create more flexibility, it would also just produce a lot more tickets which inevitably UA would need to handle. And then it would be even more frustrating if UA decided that the escalation wasn't just and the whole situation needed to be voided. Similar to PKs, admins make mistakes and thankfully that's easy as unpking. Voiding whole rp situations is way more difficult because those feelings don't just go away. 

-I do think however, UA needs to be a bit more lax on some of the escalations. If someone refuses a sitdown, the sitdown shouldn't be questioned. IRL if you were asked to a sitdown, even if the reason was shit you still went. And not showing up was a big deal, even if the reason was dumb. 

 

TLDR(foid babble summary) 

1) Larp currently isn't proper enough for this to be implemented at the level you suggest. 

2) Metagaming is a huge problem in this. (Big feelings ooc are hard to handle, but they should not be brought IC)

3) Finding a way for staff to handle this smoothly would be hell. 

 

It's a huge +1 from me, but seeing how UA would would make it all work would be very interesting. Feel free to reply to some concerns, I tried to put effort and attention into it but I'm at work, so I may have misspoke on some points. 

 

[Burner_xo]

I didn't realize no one was making actual messages referring to the topic when I wrote that... now I js look like a retard

[Justfire]

quit with the fucking mega alliance and fight bro there’s to much peace and i just wanna shoot smb

[Akira]

Just now, Justfire said:

quit with the fucking mega alliance and fight bro there’s to much peace and i just wanna shoot smb

it might be the first time after a long time i witness justfire is speaking facts

[Bob Haget]

 It's very quiet walking around.

I'd expect drive bys, spats, trash talk, the occasional fight. I haven't seen anything relevant "gang related" happen since the recent war. It honestly just seems like everyone is just ok with grinding shipments everywhere. 

You don't see power grabs or muscle flexing. 

I'm all for people being chill, but if you want more money, land etc- push comes to shove. 

 

 

[Ka1l1lly]

@Jennaywhat did you start...

[Moses]

Never would’ve thought an RP conflict discussion would turn into an argument about education and Turkey.

anyways, yeah, mega-alliances are doodoo, we don’t need those - maybe in PK wars, but those are mostly phased out yeah? Cops v Criminals mean PK almost all the time, so the real fun (and more realistic form of conflict) should be criminals v criminals. No big PK wars, just little conflicts for fun. Some people may whine and complain, but how are you gonna play the criminal RP server and get upset when the criminals engage in criminal behavior?