Ban Appeal

[Nightcrawler12212]

our Character or Steam Name: izayahm9865 Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:725666486 Your Discord ID#: gustavo.fring.los.pollos : 1135652028652191836 Reason for ban: RDM Length of ban: 1 day Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Staff member stated i would only recieve a note/Kill actually valid Why should you be unbanned? I was taken to a sit by Adava Kedavra for an RDM case, i had shot a police officer who had was trying to arrest someone i knew, i wrongly stated that she didn't have her cuffs out at the scene when she in fact did. specifically because she surrendered to pull her cuffs out and said "this is the fastest way to do it" But the staff member stated they were only going to give me a note for RDM and then proceeded to ban me for a day, i understand my error in communicating the facts and that it's only a short ban but even with that it doesn't feel right to be lied to by a staff member about the punishment you'll be recieving. Additional Information (images, videos, etc): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mGvTKu7WtkSt73ZsS?invite=cr-MSwwVnYsNTY5MDIzNTg0&v=300

Edited 12 hours ago by Nightcrawler12212
I spelt everything bad and miss worded it

[Nightcrawler12212]

Note i mean 

[Nightcrawler12212]

I messed this up bad I meant i was told by avada kedavra that i was gonna get a note than got banned 

[Horizions]

As The Person Who Banned you. You were banned before for RDM, The Cop In questioned you killed, didnt have any cuffs out, despite you calming that you killed them thinking they where arresting someone. https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mGvFAmOwgcqaWQV5Y?invite=cr-MSxFUFcsNjEyOTM1Mzg2

Edited 12 hours ago by Horizions

[Built Different]

As a player at the scene, the officer surrendered and bugged their viewmodel out showing they had their cuffs out clearly, not shown in the clip were multiple people addressing the fact they pulled their cuffs out then the officer tabbed out to go run his id for the second time, the entire situation was taking far too long for a simple ID check and the officer was blatantly trying to find any reason to arrest or restrain the person. previously stating they were going to take him into the station for questioning with zero reason to do so.

[Nightcrawler12212]

Again i'm confused because halfway through my clip you explicitly state i'm going to recieve a note and to be careful, i have a verbal dispute with the person in the sit who's a known minge cop and who was actively trying to ragebait in the sit by forcing implications i shot him because he annoys me or because he's black icly, the only thing you said was just "what are you talking shit about her now?" and then went on to ban me.

[Horizions]

When I was Looking at Notes I notice you had been banned before for RDM. Due to your behavior in the sit room, you punishment was needed to be bigger.

[Nightcrawler12212]

I have never been banned before for RDM? i had a note and that was made clear before you told me i was receiving another one, nobody in my situation would be polite to a known minge cop who was  trying to make things worse. i apologise if i came off as rude to you but i wasn't behaving poorly. 

[Hg0tros]

8 hours ago, Horizions said:

When I was Looking at Notes I notice you had been banned before for RDM. Due to your behavior in the sit room, you punishment was needed to be bigger.

Hello, first of all i want to state i wasn't involved in the situation at all. But i wanted to argue that "Due to your behavior in the sit room, your punishment was needed to be bigger." You cant just extend somebody’s punishment based on the way they talk or the words they use. The only topic banned by UA here is “ERP”, besides that players aint obligated to respect nobody or talk all polite n proper. And considering the dude you banned is clearly not somebody who’d even raise NITRP suspicion, plus you literally admitted yourself that you extended the punishment because of his behavior, it’s kinda obvious the call you made wasnt really the right one. Now if the player bein disrespectful makes you wanna use your own judgement and hit him with the max punishment for the rule he actually broke, thats fully your right as staff. But you cant increase somebody’s punishment just cause they got emotional, mad, or started venting their feelings. I know you still pretty new to being staff and my intention aint to teach you your job or point fingers at your mistakes, I just wanted to respectfully say that I dont think the decision you made really lines up with the server rules. And in a situation this complicated and open to debate, where the player clearly wasnt intentionally doing RDM and doesnt even got a crazy record/history, banning him mainly because of the way he acted over the admin sit, just dont feel like the right move to me. Just wanted to put that out there. Wish both sides good luck on the appeal tho, much love n respect.

[Arza]

2 hours ago, Hg0tros said:

Hello, first of all i want to state i wasn't involved in the situation at all. But i wanted to argue that "Due to your behavior in the sit room, your punishment was needed to be bigger." You cant just extend somebody’s punishment based on the way they talk or the words they use. The only topic banned by UA here is “ERP”, besides that players aint obligated to respect nobody or talk all polite n proper. And considering the dude you banned is clearly not somebody who’d even raise NITRP suspicion, plus you literally admitted yourself that you extended the punishment because of his behavior, it’s kinda obvious the call you made wasnt really the right one. Now if the player bein disrespectful makes you wanna use your own judgement and hit him with the max punishment for the rule he actually broke, thats fully your right as staff. But you cant increase somebody’s punishment just cause they got emotional, mad, or started venting their feelings. I know you still pretty new to being staff and my intention aint to teach you your job or point fingers at your mistakes, I just wanted to respectfully say that I dont think the decision you made really lines up with the server rules. And in a situation this complicated and open to debate, where the player clearly wasnt intentionally doing RDM and doesnt even got a crazy record/history, banning him mainly because of the way he acted over the admin sit, just dont feel like the right move to me. Just wanted to put that out there. Wish both sides good luck on the appeal tho, much love n respect.

Got a real special one here.

[funkeymonkey202]

I was the guy in the gold tracksuit and the white beard. The reason why the cop stopped me was because I pulled my gun out and made it go click click for two seconds. The officer then comes up to me asking for my ID. I show my ID but the officer is a very incompetent person and asked me if it was a class one or three and I answered honestly that it was a class one then they bugged out their model where it looked like they were holding cuffs because the charges would’ve been a felony charge. Another faction member shot the cop in the head.