Holiday's Ban Appeal

[Holiday]

Your Character or Steam Name: The Holiday Inn

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_1:0:138039649

Your Discord ID#: kyngholiday

Reason for ban: Fail Escalation

Length of ban: 2 Days

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute

Why should you be unbanned?: Bullets refused to understand my perspective, and failed to offer due diligence by getting another staff member's opinion. I know we're not entitled to this, however it would've reinforced confidence that I actually broke a rule.

I got flagged up by Popov to march on the Irish for disrespecting a High Command member in front of the Russian Apartments, I had no context, no clue what was going on. I was simply following orders given. I know that the first level of conflict escalation is Disrespect. It states under this level of conflict that we are allowed to collect "either a tax or apology demanded depending on the severity of the disrespect". I immediately went in and told one of the Irish dudes to take off his $500 rolex watch. This was symbolic, purposeful, and followed the proper engagement and alleged escalation.

The only other thing I can think of is when I air punched a dude cause he kept talking shit. Im going to be honest, if you watch my clip, I was talking to my girlfriend, I wasn't even really paying attention when I did it, I more so was just fucking around cause nobody was really saying anything and I was listening to my girlfriend rant about work.


Additional Information (images, videos, etc): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mqOpOhZy9bvAlpXgs?invite=cr-MSxleE0sMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=172

[intoxicatedpube]

your an idiot

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by intoxicatedpube
bc

[Holiday]

14 minutes ago, intoxicatedpube said:

prop abusing in your ban appeal

The rules mention "prop abusing" twice, both in relation to vehicles.

[Jaboinkle]

30 minutes ago, Holiday said:

Your Character or Steam Name: The Holiday Inn

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_1:0:138039649

Your Discord ID#: kyngholiday

Reason for ban: Fail Escalation

Length of ban: 2 Days

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute

Why should you be unbanned?: Bullets refused to understand my perspective, and failed to offer due diligence by getting another staff member's opinion. I know we're not entitled to this, however it would've reinforced confidence that I actually broke a rule.

I got flagged up by Popov to march on the Irish for disrespecting a High Command member in front of the Russian Apartments, I had no context, no clue what was going on. I was simply following orders given. I know that the first level of conflict escalation is Disrespect. It states under this level of conflict that we are allowed to collect "either a tax or apology demanded depending on the severity of the disrespect". I immediately went in and told one of the Irish dudes to take off his $500 rolex watch. This was symbolic, purposeful, and followed the proper engagement and alleged escalation.

The only other thing I can think of is when I air punched a dude cause he kept talking shit. Im going to be honest, if you watch my clip, I was talking to my girlfriend, I wasn't even really paying attention when I did it, I more so was just fucking around cause nobody was really saying anything and I was listening to my girlfriend rant about work.


Additional Information (images, videos, etc): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mqOpOhZy9bvAlpXgs?invite=cr-MSxleE0sMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=172

 

"Should someone, capo and above, intentionally go out of their way to insult other made men or bosses a transgression for disrespect can be considered and either a tax or apology demanded depending on the severity of the disrespect"

None of the people involved were capo+.

[Holiday]

17 minutes ago, Jaboinkle said:

"Should someone, capo and above, intentionally go out of their way to insult other made men or bosses a transgression for disrespect can be considered and either a tax or apology demanded depending on the severity of the disrespect"

None of the people involved were capo+.

Once again, we're viewing it not from face-value, but from speculation. I would have no way of knowing this information about the situation other than Vladislav Popov (Popov HC) got disrespected by an Irish person in front of Russian Apartments. Even at that, simply asking for an item doesn't fully escalate until they hand it over.

"Attempted, Conspiracy, In Association With, to commit FailEscalation" ahh reply.

Edited 1 hour ago by Holiday

[Jaboinkle]

23 minutes ago, Holiday said:

Vladislav Popov (Popov HC) got disrespected by an Irish person in front of Russian Apartments

It was actually by a biker guy. Not an irishman. 

[Holiday]

18 minutes ago, Jaboinkle said:

It was actually by a biker guy. Not an irishman. 

Okay, this is just blatantly disregarding my responses at this point. The dude had an Irish pin above his head, and I was following instructions given to me. Simple, point blank.

[Bullets]

You were banned for the repeated action of your group attempting to escalate faction beef without properly opening a UA ticket, the last time I banned a Popov for this exact thing I told him the same.  Your faction members have now been told by myself personally 2 times to speak with your faction leaders about opening the ticket if you wish to continue the beef correctly.

Your Head Enforcer, I don't remember his name but he was very well expecting to go in for a gunfight as I have his POV and he has spamming his key for his Scorpion, now I have no actual way of telling if you all had the same intentions but from where I was standing it looked apparent you wanted a gunfight to break out.

Edited 43 minutes ago by Bullets

[Holiday]

16 minutes ago, Bullets said:

You were banned for the repeated action of your group attempting to escalate faction beef without properly opening a UA ticket, the last time I banned a Popov for this exact thing I told him the same.  Your faction members have now been told by myself personally 2 times to speak with your faction leaders about opening the ticket if you wish to continue the beef correctly.

Your Head Enforcer, I don't remember his name but he was very well expecting to go in for a gunfight as I have his POV and he has spamming his key for his Scorpion, now I have no actual way of telling if you all had the same intentions but from where I was standing it looked apparent you wanted a gunfight to break out.

Totally understandable. However, you just admitted I was acting under the impression that the Popov Head Enforcer notified the proper channels. I shouldn't be penalized for his mistake! You are 100% speculating my intentions, how can I be in a gunfight and on the phone with my girlfriend, those two are mutually exclusive!!!

#GuiltyByAssociation

Edited 27 minutes ago by Holiday

[Auxiliary]

-1

Your entire dispute claim is that you had no knowledge of the conflict and were just "told to do so". It is made abundantly clear that being told to do something does not excuse the fact that you broke a rule in the entire rules page for Diverge. Feigning ignorance is not a valid defense to break rules on the server. It is also made very clear in the rules that OOC circumstances cannot excuse rule breaks. Not paying attention to what you're doing because you're talking on the phone is not a valid defense according to the rules. I would just do yourself a favor and take the 2 day ban.

[Holiday]

3 minutes ago, Auxiliary said:

-1

Your entire dispute claim is that you had no knowledge of the conflict and were just "told to do so". It is made abundantly clear that being told to do something does not excuse the fact that you broke a rule in the entire rules page for Diverge. Feigning ignorance is not a valid defense to break rules on the server. It is also made very clear in the rules that OOC circumstances cannot excuse rule breaks. Not paying attention to what you're doing because you're talking on the phone is not a valid defense according to the rules. I would just do yourself a favor and take the 2 day ban.

If my boss tells me we're all good, on something he is supposed to do, I take it in good faith that he actually had a "go ahead" by staff. What are you on about?

You need to be more involved on these forms. Smh, everyone else who had 10x more involvement than me already got appealed. #MandateStaffToReadWithTheirEyes

Edited 8 minutes ago by Holiday

[Auxiliary]

1 minute ago, Holiday said:

If my boss tells me we're all good, on something he is supposed to do, I take it in good faith that he actually had a "go ahead" by staff. What are you on about?

You need to be more involved on these forms. Smh, everyone else who had 10x more involvement than me already got appealed. #MandateStaffToReadWithTheirEyes

I'm honestly not very surprised that you take it at face value, considering your ban. Thanks for pointing out the obvious though.