Terry Frisking

[Greenghost_906]

Hey it's your local legal nerd who wants you to all get arrested.

So, currently in the server we only have fully intrusive searches (by legal standards). These searches require probable cause and the searcher gets to see EVERYTHING you have on you. However, there is a lower level of search called a "Terry Frisk." This is essentially when the cops have reasonable suspicion you have committed a crime and could have a weapon, so they 'pat you down' for any apparent arms.

What I am proposing is adding Terry Frisks as a function to bridge that gap. The way I'm picturing it is the same way the breathalyzer and EMS prompts are, where you ask to frisk someone then get a /it in return for "you feel the handle of a weapon" or something like that. It wouldn't detect drugs or anything else, it'd just detect the concealed weapon. At that point, it's up to the officer or whoever is frisking the other person on how they act with the knowledge they are armed. It adds more RP and can also apply to criminals frisking someone else for a weapon during a deal or before they're about to whack them. It wouldn't solely help police and the function could be available for other means.

Don't just "-1 because police bad." If you have genuine issues or possible adjustments, feel free.

 

Edit: Maybe have the /it clarify if they feel a melee weapon handle or a gun handle. They could see its a melee weapon and disregard, or notice that the man in front of them is strapped and has the potential to put a 9 in their forehead in less than 2 seconds.

Edited 58 minutes ago by Greenghost_906

[Platocygnus]

How it feels to murder an officer cause they asked for my ID (i am fully licensed)

[Faith]

peak +1

[TroubledGhost]

Like... Im 50/50, great functionality and RP stuff but the issue is the level of standard particularly how it can be interpreted by cops and lead to cops becoming potentially more powerful and unbalanced. (oh and powergamey) 

 

The idea "if suspected of comitting a crime.. " when shit goes down, this can impact a lot of bystanders not involved in the situation for just being nearby or passing through. 

E.g shooting at ghetto, poor jimmy (not involved) just collected his Cocaine package at ghetto, gets stopped by cops and terry frisked. He is now Busted. 

(lets be real, everyone is comitting crimes. Giving cops the additional power of reasonable suspicion can be detrimental, and by cops im more so talking about retarded cops or cop mains who are unecessarily strict or assholes who can use this to stop you and increase risk of catching illegal things on people) 

 

Sure you can say "we will make it clear in training, SOP and our standards and have misusers prosecuted in the court of law for corruption!", but this shithouse will not make it worth it.. Having to go to court or even make staff tickets and just drag everything out makes it a unecessary headache. 

 

But deffo a useful function for crime faction members/civs. 

 

For cops? its a difficult stance to take unless it is well balanced.. Which it is not cos this shit happens at the probable cause level (which is meant to be a much HIGHER standard). 

 

 

 

[Burner_xo]

no sir I don't have a gun, that's just my massive penis

[Greenghost_906]

24 minutes ago, TroubledGhost said:

Like... Im 50/50, great functionality and RP stuff but the issue is the level of standard particularly how it can be interpreted by cops and lead to cops becoming potentially more powerful and unbalanced. (oh and powergamey) 

 

The idea "if suspected of comitting a crime.. " when shit goes down, this can impact a lot of bystanders not involved in the situation for just being nearby or passing through. 

E.g shooting at ghetto, poor jimmy (not involved) just collected his Cocaine package at ghetto, gets stopped by cops and terry frisked. He is now Busted. 

(lets be real, everyone is comitting crimes. Giving cops the additional power of reasonable suspicion can be detrimental, and by cops im more so talking about retarded cops or cop mains who are unecessarily strict or assholes who can use this to stop you and increase risk of catching illegal things on people) 

 

Sure you can say "we will make it clear in training, SOP and our standards and have misusers prosecuted in the court of law for corruption!", but this shithouse will not make it worth it.. Having to go to court or even make staff tickets and just drag everything out makes it a unecessary headache. 

 

But deffo a useful function for crime faction members/civs. 

 

For cops? its a difficult stance to take unless it is well balanced.. Which it is not cos this shit happens at the probable cause level (which is meant to be a much HIGHER standard). 

 

 

 

If poor Jimmy is illegally carrying a gun, maybe he's fucked, but it also adds a level of little Jimmy hearing those shots and knowing he may need to lock the fuck in and hide away or submit to a search he knows he'll pass if he plays it smart (more tech in terms of reacting to your environment and preparing yourself). Like I said, it won't detect the cocaine in his inventory, just the fact that he is indeed strapped and ready to blow your shit clean off at a moment's notice. Merely having a gun doesn't immediately escalate to probable cause and give cause for full search.

Edited 54 minutes ago by Greenghost_906