Tony "Vindaloo" Vidoolo unPk request

[Cash]

Name of Character: Tony "Vindaloo" Vidoolo

Character ID:  178110

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:195240982

Your Discord ID#: cashxc

Date of PK: 10/5/89

Reason for PK:

Suspected Informant.

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?:
The reason that I will start off with talking about is how it got to the point of where the PK was decided upon by higher management within the Cassano's. On 10/4/89 a training took place at the construction yard for enforcers. During this training police had "heard gunshots" and came and arrested 6 Cassano family members including myself, only one member was let go scott free and that was not me. This was the first reason that the Cassano's currently bring up as a reason for which I was a rat which the police in the situation can verify I was never giving information. The officer during the arrest of note would be Detective Matteo Smith which was the one that had started the arrest of all of us. Keep in mind I also got arrested in this situation and got my prints taken from this. The next reason that the cassanos bring up of why I was pked was that I was suspected to be giving insider knowledge to the SOS which I was not, this is verified by the hc of SOS and also video evidence which I have that include the SOS high command telling the Cassonos DIRECTLY that I had not provided any secrets to the SOS. After that day on 10/5 I was told to get on where I was killed on these grounds without any hard evidence ever being proven to the family and this goes on to prove that I did not violate anything that would constitute a pk according to the family member Pk guidelines.

 

I also will update this I was Pk baited to get into the city

Using OOC means of communication to perform a PK will invalidate it / the evidence for a PK.
If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:

 

Clips can be provided if necessary 

Edited Monday at 04:41 AM by Cash

[ix_crazy_xi]

what did i do  it was some sgt in ESU 

[Jennay]

Hello, I’m the person who wrote the orders here. I’m sorry you feel your PK was unjust, and I’m here to provide some insight from our side about the decision.

We felt there was reasonable suspicion that you were collaborating with the police. The same day you mentioned you had a large drug deal lined up, the person you were supposed to meet was arrested just before the deal. Then, with the construction yard incident, it all started to feel a bit too coincidental.

On top of that, there had been some odd questions you asked after other members of the faction were PKed. Altogether, it seemed very suspicious to us and raised serious concerns — which is why we ultimately decided to order your death.

[Haze]

Hello. I am the supposed deal that was lined up and the info you gave on this supposed deal is incorrect. We didn’t have anything lined up with Tony that day, but in fact “Ciggy” the one guy in the group that just so happened to have his charges dropped. The last “deal” I had with Tony would have been close to 2 weeks ago which was also with Ciggy. Not sure why the group strongly believes Tony was an informant when I myself had a sit down with Priest and my president with both of us telling Priest that nothing indicates Tony being an informant, and that Tony has never once leaked information to my group. If you’d like to see clips of the sit down discussion about Tony I’m more than happy to show the nearly 10 minute discussion. 

[Haze]

Proof that the deal was with Ciggy and not Tony

[Haze]

My apologies I left a ss out. 

[Jennay]

No part of his pk was about him leaking information to your group idk why yall are so strung up on this narrative. Tony told priest that the deal was his, Tony was also at the construction yard when a bunch of people got arrested that same day and there had just been random questions that he had asked that at the time we took a blind eye to but when concerns got raised later on it all felt like too many red flags so we did what we felt best. it just be like that some times

[Big Tony]

1 hour ago, Haze said:

Hello. I am the supposed deal that was lined up and the info you gave on this supposed deal is incorrect. We didn’t have anything lined up with Tony that day, but in fact “Ciggy” the one guy in the group that just so happened to have his charges dropped. The last “deal” I had with Tony would have been close to 2 weeks ago which was also with Ciggy. Not sure why the group strongly believes Tony was an informant when I myself had a sit down with Priest and my president with both of us telling Priest that nothing indicates Tony being an informant, and that Tony has never once leaked information to my group. If you’d like to see clips of the sit down discussion about Tony I’m more than happy to show the nearly 10 minute discussion. 

I’m a little bit confused as in this screenshot you state that “I am the supposed deal that was lined up” yet the ss between you and ciggy show you say “hold on my boy got arrested”. Clearly from this it shows that your boy who got arrested is the one we are talking about in regards to the Tony vindaloo deal, I was a part of the sit down with priest and you and you never stated once the deal was with yourself but explained one of your guys got arrested. Vindaloo was questioned in regards to doing a deal and the timing and story matched up to that of your boy being arrested the day of setting up a deal so we had reasonable suspicion backed by both our thoughts initially and your story during the sit.

[Santana]

5 hours ago, Jennay said:

Hello, I’m the person who wrote the orders here. I’m sorry you feel your PK was unjust, and I’m here to provide some insight from our side about the decision.

We felt there was reasonable suspicion that you were collaborating with the police. The same day you mentioned you had a large drug deal lined up, the person you were supposed to meet was arrested just before the deal. Then, with the construction yard incident, it all started to feel a bit too coincidental.

On top of that, there had been some odd questions you asked after other members of the faction were PKed. Altogether, it seemed very suspicious to us and raised serious concerns — which is why we ultimately decided to order your death.

I am the individual that was mentioned in this reply, while yes I was arrested I did not have a deal or any dealings with Vindaloo the whole time I have known him, which is brief. The arrest and prosecution has absolutely nothing to do with Vindaloo, furthermore he was the one to defend me on his secondary character, if he was involved in my arrest it would be absolutely unallowed for him to do this.

 

Also as a matter of fact, his secondary lawyer character has defended our faction more than a few times, if he was a rat or a snitch it would be impossible for him to do any of this as our dealings with the police are quite hectic. I am of the personal opinion that everybody supporting this PK is looking at mere coincidences rather than concrete evidence of anything.

[Jennay]

18 minutes ago, Santana said:

I am the individual that was mentioned in this reply, while yes I was arrested I did not have a deal or any dealings with Vindaloo the whole time I have known him, which is brief. The arrest and prosecution has absolutely nothing to do with Vindaloo, furthermore he was the one to defend me on his secondary character, if he was involved in my arrest it would be absolutely unallowed for him to do this.

 

Also as a matter of fact, his secondary lawyer character has defended our faction more than a few times, if he was a rat or a snitch it would be impossible for him to do any of this as our dealings with the police are quite hectic. I am of the personal opinion that everybody supporting this PK is looking at mere coincidences rather than concrete evidence of anything.

Hey so like this information is just ooc and doesn’t matter regarding the pk. IC his name was involved in shit, he told us IC it was his deal , IC he asked retarded questions, IC he was at construction, IC homie got whacked based off potentially being a rat which is allowed per PK guidelines. When you join a criminal faction you accept the risks that come with it

[Cash]

2 hours ago, Jennay said:

Hey so like this information is just ooc and doesn’t matter regarding the pk. IC his name was involved in shit, he told us IC it was his deal , IC he asked retarded questions, IC he was at construction, IC homie got whacked based off potentially being a rat which is allowed per PK guidelines. When you join a criminal faction you accept the risks that come with it

Hi Vita I am sorry I wasn't able to reply sooner but I will be refuting every single claim you have made and explain why it would not constitute reasonable suspicion.

 

1. IC it was my deal

this is false completely, as Haze has pointed out I had not done business with SOS for a while in fact I had not done business with them fully for about 2 weeks. The only time I ever considered setting up a deal was when Priest DIRECTLY had me come to the trat right after the sitdown with SOS where he asked me in there if I would be able to set up a deal with SOS because he wanted to sell stuff I said I could but it was not wise since one of the members which would be @Santana had just been picked up by the police at the time. He said ok and let me leave after this. Then about 10 minutes later I then spoke with him and informed him if he wanted to I could try and help set up a crew deal between both SOS and the trat he then said something along the lines of  "we will see" then that is the last I talked about any major deals. AGAIN TO REITERATE I was never talking about doing any deal IC priest was the one that brought it up.

2. Construction Incident

This one actually makes no sense for a PK reason if you have a functioning IQ . what had happened, which can be verifed by admins who watched the situation, Me and 6 other cassano's got picked up because gunshots were heard at construction the only person to get off from this with no charges was Ciggy for whatever reason. I was CHARGED for this crime, it would make no sense for an informant to get charged for a crime. Which you guys in fact knew I was charged after the fact.

3. Apparently I asked questions

You didn't even elaborate what that means or showed anything I said this could literally mean anything please fallow up on this so I can fully respond

 

TLDR - Invalid reasons for reasonable suspicion to apply 

[Jennay]

52 minutes ago, Cash said:

Hi Vita I am sorry I wasn't able to reply sooner but I will be refuting every single claim you have made and explain why it would not constitute reasonable suspicion.

 

1. IC it was my deal

this is false completely, as Haze has pointed out I had not done business with SOS for a while in fact I had not done business with them fully for about 2 weeks. The only time I ever considered setting up a deal was when Priest DIRECTLY had me come to the trat right after the sitdown with SOS where he asked me in there if I would be able to set up a deal with SOS because he wanted to sell stuff I said I could but it was not wise since one of the members which would be @Santana had just been picked up by the police at the time. He said ok and let me leave after this. Then about 10 minutes later I then spoke with him and informed him if he wanted to I could try and help set up a crew deal between both SOS and the trat he then said something along the lines of  "we will see" then that is the last I talked about any major deals. AGAIN TO REITERATE I was never talking about doing any deal IC priest was the one that brought it up.

2. Construction Incident

This one actually makes no sense for a PK reason if you have a functioning IQ . what had happened, which can be verifed by admins who watched the situation, Me and 6 other cassano's got picked up because gunshots were heard at construction the only person to get off from this with no charges was Ciggy for whatever reason. I was CHARGED for this crime, it would make no sense for an informant to get charged for a crime. Which you guys in fact knew I was charged after the fact.

3. Apparently I asked questions

You didn't even elaborate what that means or showed anything I said this could literally mean anything please fallow up on this so I can fully respond

 

TLDR - Invalid reasons for reasonable suspicion to apply 

1. https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lgn386lj4uhNLiSfm?invite=cr-MSwxTVgsMTIyODkxOTc&v=40
"Isnt that the guy you where gonna trade with" "yeah he was, they just filed a criminal complaint today" 
You dead ass said it was your deal that had a criminal complaint my guy

2. Given the fact that you had a deal have a criminal complaint that YOU stated was YOUR deal we thought it was oddly suspicious you where also there when a lot of people got arrested 

3. Your first few weeks there was 2 incidents where you would ask what happened to someone right after they where PKed. We questioned it at the time but decided it wasn't a threat an perhaps it was genuine confusion but with these things at the time being brought up this concern resurfaced. 

4th and final- There is a clear gap between your understanding of the ooc information and the IC information available to the family at the time, You claim that your involvement in the deal with SOS should be irrelevant while looking at all the facts individually, the truth is you are an person who asked odd questions, who's first real deal got put off because of a criminal complaint resulting in an arrest, and who's first real involvement with a group of enforcers resulted in detainment and arrest of almost all present, ALL these factors combined led us to make our final decision. For you to be PKed, you don't need to be a UC there simply needs to be reasonable suspicion which there clearly is after these events happened not long after the other. 

TLDR u sus u die i so sorry 

[Cash]

1. When I referred to him being the guy I was going to trade I said yes because priest asked for someone to trade with I said "yeah that was the guy I was going to trade with" you can tell this is the context because right after I mention a CC being filed. For this point I mainly was just trying to find someone and that was the first person I thought of but I told priest no because of that reason. I offered to find someone else for priest besides trumandor. FYI the CC had nothing to do with drugs

2. You once again fail to mention that I was charged in the construction incident which would make no sense once again if I was an informant idk why you keep dodging this one specific point. Also that I spent an hour in jail waiting on a lawyer now why would I do that if I was an informant.

3. I was never spoken to about these incidents infact idk what they were about or who it was about I cannot recall who I could have been asking about and even if I was asking it would have been in pager most likely.

4. Truth is you killed me for odd questions and allegations that were proven false by SOS hc and my own criminal record, You also keep doging the point that ciggy was never arrested and that you never casted any doubt onto him or anyone else besides myself, you false are just lying by saying this is my first big deal because it isn't and you guys know IC I had been dealing with SOS before that day.

Crazy to kill a made man for a "Coincidence"

Edited 2 hours ago by Cash

[Bullets]

This is getting denied, you died because they thought you were a snitch.  ICly it’s the person that placed the orders fault, they made a bad call and an innocent man died because of it.