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Pic from other appeal, does not look like hugging the boxes to me. Seems right about where I put it!

Hey so im the banning staff member in this case. There had been a discord ticket made due to a staff member's recommendation about a ticket he was unsure about. There are 2 relevant clips for this situation and both will be labeled and attached below. Inside of those clips we see two sos dudes goofing off and picking you up while ragdolled. You say 3 times throughout your clip “ put me down” the last being at 48 seconds in. on clip one we see no sight of your friend until 56 seconds in where he is far away running towards you then two seconds later he shoots. After he shoots a firefight breaks out killing the two sos. When the fight is over we see your friend running up towards you and much closer now as he ran during it. During your initial sit your claim is that he was just running that way and was close enough to hear your voice and defend you. I had tested this with another staff member to see how far the voices go exactly to get a rough idea of if it was possible and it was very far off, to the point where there isnt any chance you were heard. The claim is he was just running at that exact second and then defended you, however when comparing it to the theory of metagame,it makes alot more sense as thats what everything points to, a random man shooting two dudes who were carrying a white shirt with no identifiable features at the time provides very compelling evidence to that point. Discord tickets 10425 and 10458 for the seniors or supers that review this should help you, the red is your friend, the blue is you, the green is roughly about the max voice distance from where you were. you are implying its 3x the size as depicted as thats where he shot, not where he was first seen. feel free to test, or have your friends test if you don't believe me! heres an imigur link as it wouldnt paste for some reason- https://imgur.com/AVrWvj0 https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mRSauLGSgTrMg1M29?invite=cr-MSxMaDYsMzQzNTg4NzI2&v=72 Clip one https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mRSfDYnxC-SjlB-m_?invite=cr-MSw5S0csMzMwODc5MDY&v=25 Clip two Same as money blue/ rain ban and situation have a good one!

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hey there, So after discussing with other members of UA we have come to the agreement that regardless of the metagame claims provided this will still be denied. The main reasons for this is the amount of witnesses present.let alone other details Firstly you did attempt to mug them in the street which already makes it failmug. Heres a snippet of mugging rule 2 - “You may not mug in a public place, you can, however, pull a weapon on them and bring them to a secluded area to rob them (This can only be done when there is no one else around. EXAMPLE: The victim is alone at night in the middle of an empty street. You initiate a mugging with your firearm and take them to an alleyway so no one stumbles upon the crime. “ In the clips I can count 4 people watching you initiate the mugging, and the Rockefeller npc as well. This goes directly against that , the rules specify - If a mugging violates these rules it is deemed a 'fail mug' and the victim is not subject to a PK if killed. Should the mugger be killed during a fail mug they perpetrated, the handling Administrator may choose to still PK them as a result. To combine it with the full rule on vigilantism it states that its only a pk if you do have a connection to the target. When both of those rules combine it is a pk regardless of the metagame claim. Due to those reasons the pk will stand.

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hi After discussing with the other members of the staff team we have come to the conclusion this is a valid pk and will not be overturned. The reasons behind this are as follows the rules state how when you are in the act of committing an pk you are active as well and must not be reckless, in your case the person fought back as they suspected it, people wont just give up their life and let you kill them. He acted on suspicion and was right, now if he wasn't active this would be a whole different story, but in this case we have decided that the pk shall remain. Have a good one

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hey For this pk there are two main reasons why this wont be overturned. The first is like mentioned here a couple of times, the gun was faced away which disengaged the fear rp on the target. This allowed him to respond without fear. However the guy with the gun out who shut the door attempted to shoot at the target, even if he missed as the target backed up moments before it would still trigger fear rp rule 11, which states “ Fearrp no longer applies when you shoot and/or damage the victim, they may retaliate without risk.” For those stated reasons this pk appeal will be denied. Have a good one

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hey, So to clear things up for you, a cop pulling out a firearm is not initiating violence, for police to start the confrontation they must shoot first. Which was not the case here, you shot at the cop first and died meaning your char got pked. There is nothing to overturn here so the pk will remain in place. I would recommend referring to the pk guidelines to brush up on that part a little bit more. Have a good one

this should help you, the red is your friend, the blue is you, the green is roughly about the max voice distance from where you were. you are implying its 3x the size as depicted as thats where he shot, not where he was first seen. feel free to test, or have your friends test if you don't believe me! anyways im done here, have a good one. heres an imigur link as it wouldnt paste for some reason- https://imgur.com/AVrWvj0

Bro I don’t even know who you are. Get over yourself

Hey so im the banning staff member in this case. There had been a discord ticket made due to a staff member's recommendation about a ticket he was unsure about. There are 2 relevant clips for this situation and both will be labeled and attached below. Inside of those clips we see two sos dudes goofing off and picking you up while ragdolled. You say 3 times throughout your clip “ put me down” the last being at 48 seconds in. on clip one we see no sight of your friend until 56 seconds in where he is far away running towards you then two seconds later he shoots. After he shoots a firefight breaks out killing the two sos. When the fight is over we see your friend running up towards you and much closer now as he ran during it. During your initial sit your claim is that he was just running that way and was close enough to hear your voice and defend you. I had tested this with another staff member to see how far the voices go exactly to get a rough idea of if it was possible and it was very far off, to the point where there isnt any chance you were heard. The claim is he was just running at that exact second and then defended you, however when comparing it to the theory of metagame,it makes alot more sense as thats what everything points to, a random man shooting two dudes who were carrying a white shirt with no identifiable features at the time provides very compelling evidence to that point. Discord tickets 10425 and 10458 for the seniors or supers that review https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mRSauLGSgTrMg1M29?invite=cr-MSxMaDYsMzQzNTg4NzI2&v=72 Clip one https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mRSfDYnxC-SjlB-m_?invite=cr-MSw5S0csMzMwODc5MDY&v=25 Clip two

Hey there! I'm the main staff member who was involved with this situation. To start us off, your account was flagged for item transfer and needed manual review before any action would be taken. I was the person who looked further into the logs and investigated the situation. During my review, I noticed a few things. First, your character Dmitriy "Killjoy" Krysha was PK'd on May 31st for a cop shootout. He was removed from the Gopnik account on June 2nd. Within roughly two hours, your new character, Mikalai "Sasha" Vuzkyi was added to that same account. This character was not in Popov, but instead belonged to an allied faction seemingly waiting out the 7 day timer. While on the account, Sasha withdrew, used and sold items that your previous character had helped acquire and manage. Multiple items, such as two Yoon coats, were only ever handled by your two characters. With several other items, even when other people were involved, Killjoy was the last person to handle them before the PK, and Sasha was the next person to withdraw and use/sell them afterward. Your argument that you were only selling clothes for Gopnik does not change the issue. The problem is not the existence of a gopnik account or shared inventory. The issue is that after your character was PK'd, your new character regained access to the same items your previous character helped obtain and then benefited from them. Since you did theese sales, your new character was able to profit from inventory connected to your previous character. The purpose of a PK is to end that character and separate their items, connections, and progress. If a player can immediately return on a new character, regain the same access, and continue using the same resources, that defeats the purpose of the PK system. The first relevant rule is Character Rule 7: "Likewise you may not transfer money or items between any of your characters in anyway. Nor are you allowed to act as the middleman for someone else's item or money transfer. Transferring items or money between two of your characters is not permitted under any circumstance." I am referencing this rule because, regardless of the items being stored in a shared account, the end result was your new character gaining access to and benefiting from items your previous character acquired/handled. The shared account acted as the access point between the two characters. The next relevant rule is Character Rule 9: "You cannot use a second character to assume a role you were just PK'ed/removed from." After Killjoy was removed, Sasha was added back shortly afterward and resumed the same function of being a trader/seller for Gopnik, with the same account access and inventory access. The concern is not simply that both characters sold clothes, but that your new character inherited the same access, duties and resources near instantly after your previous character was removed. In conclusion, the issue is the overall sequence- Killjoy handled/acquired/sold inventory > Killjoy was PK'd > Sasha was added to the same account within hours > Sasha accessed and used/sold the same inventory. Because your new character continued benefiting from resources and a role connected to your PK'd character, this falls under item transfer/role continuation rather than normal use of a company account. For the reasons I listed and explained, the PK was issued from me. Have a good one

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. The ban will be lifted from your account shortly. If it was deemed an invalid ban, it will also be removed from your record.

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. The ban will be lifted from your account shortly. If it was deemed an invalid ban, it will also be removed from your record.

Hey, So first I'm going to clarify some things. You were quitting a char so you decided to give away your items. Ok, something most of us have done in the past. Then your friend gives you a suit on a new char, ok an argument can certainly be made for char abuse in that case. The suit received had no connection to previously on the altoviti char, and we have decided that just receiving a suit from a friend on a new char in this case does not warrant a ban and a pk. Of course char abuse is a case by case basis and every detail matters, but this case the evidence is not sufficient therefore this ban will be accepted and the pk will be revoked.

Just because you didn’t know them dosent excuse you from the punishment. It’s been a week, I doubt you learned much in that time. Just because I don’t agree with you dose not constitute bias. Little confused on what you mean by that one.

So, it’s not even been close to a month, it’s been a week and one day. You attempted to blow up a cop car and then blew up a car that was as you even said prior, in a cop chase. Ignorance of prop rules dosent give you special treatment.

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please i beg you, add a mute button to the c menu. A way to mute one individual person, lets say one guys super annoying and you dont want to hear him or even a micspammer when no staff is on.

Hey man so in the own clip you sent we start off by seeing you chase a cop car and trying to push it down and likely blow it up with a metal sheet, It drives away and you stop. You then go for a stolen cop car while there are cops actively watching you and running up to you. After you blow up the cop car with your props you then get pked and start to kinda minge but I digress. Your own words “I was just trying to help the guy in the raptor get away from the cops because we were being chased” As prop rule 13 says- Many people do not see issue in using props to flip their cars or get them unstuck, and a majority of the time it isn't very problematic, however it is considered prop abuse to do so in an active RP scenario. Do not free your car using props if you are in a Police chase/fleeing a hit/dropping off drug deals or any RP scenario where a disabled car affects the outcome. Have a great night!

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hey, there are a couple of points I want to talk about here.1-the “voiding” , 2- Your misunderstanding, 3- your minge char claim, 4-actual orders. 1- As Boom said, nothing was voided. It was your thought that it was, there had been no UA involvement. You both decided to just stop that roleplay, it did not negate any orders and or rp that occurred. 2- Like stated prior, this was something that you misunderstood, while it is tragic that you misunderstood, it was nothing on our side or any staff error. Misunderstanding between people in rp is not a reason to unpk a char. 3- as stated in the character rules “You may not have a minge/non-serious character for 'messing around”. So that also dose not help your case when you admit its a character that has no intent to have meaningful roleplay overall. 4- there are no issues with the orders themself, so that dose not come into effect here. Due to the reasons stated above this pk has been deemed valid and the appeal will be denied.

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.