Lucid Mangos

All these cops on here saying basically having your name doesnt mean anything. But that means you know the person in character, I think that some implementations that could help are: First time ID search is like an 1 hour or so temp name recognition Second time ID search is a day or 2 of name recognition 3rd time ID search is permanent. This would allow people to be more cautious about open carrying, and on top of that it follows a real life sense of incrimination. Ive said it multiple times in this thread, cops who search your ID for a traffic stop or a 1 time arrest may recognize you, but they wont remember your name. However if you are a frequent criminal being bought in and ID'd then of course they will remember you.

God dammit this dumb multi quote shit weird sometimes look bellow youbear

Name of Character: Galileo "Lie" Pruszkowska SteamID: STEAM_0:0:55442313 Your Discord ID#: lucid_mangos Date of PK: 4/12/2024 Reason for PK: Died from a person we PKd Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: Ok to break it down, a man walks to the casino property I own and talks about mugging our guy and PKing him. **I assumed there was 2 of them, considering once I killed the one the other nearly killed me while picking up the casings, while doing so I killed him too. The screenshot provided by Boom of the 2nd guy attempting to kill me shows him just standing there, if he knew those guys why didnt he attack me dead on with his friend? I believe after the 2 I killed were asked to give their names to him to hunt me down. continuing, I made my way to the docks to put my gun in the bank and disperse from there not to go to the barge. But bc of the whole, you have to wait after using a gun to put it into a bank. I headed to the barge. Why didnt he kill me when I was stuck at the ATM if he followed me. I do not believe this guy followed me to the docks, somehow metagamed. Because when I was returning he had just arrived at the docks. I was at the barge for a good 5 minutes before making my way back. Boom himself told me he was on the fence about this PK. Even if I was wearing the same outfit it is a very basic outfit and lots of people wear it so how would he have known it was me without just taking the right guess that it was me that was PKd. Boom said he followed me but I didnt see any proof of that, and I hope Boom was given proof if true, of that and I believe there may have been some metagaming. Please look into the guys that were all involved in my PK bc another question is did any of these guys have chars in commission factions. More specifically the guy who killed me. Watch the first clip and you will see the guy who killed me was dead behind me and I had no idea that he was affiliated same with the guy in the white yet he didnt help his boy jump me when he did. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/26SoglyAnlhZT6/d1337G16qj37?invite=cr-MSw5WkwsMTc2NzM2MTk1LA https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/26SsfOopRU0NTm/d1337e6YtMGe?invite=cr-MSx0YjIsMTc2NzM2MTk1LA

realistically, if a cop IDs you say for public masking but has no idea you have a gun and no FAFL. Them shooting the cop would lead to an RDM. Ive seen it happen, a cop has to be clearly trying to arrest you in order for you to shoot the cop for a felony. Therefore, if your willing to give up your ID doesnt mean you just get the right to shoot, and for running well that just makes you all the more suspicious and tells me that a temporary name recognition would be better than permanent recognition. In the same vein there are still times when you can't shoot police and it would be considered RDM. You may not KOS Police for no reason. They must be specifically targeting you or a faction member for arrest/takedown. You may not kill Officers for simply pulling you over or writing you a traffic citation. You may not kill Officers for giving you a lawful order. (Leave the area, put that away, Identify yourself, etc) You may attack Officers if they attempt to Arrest/Detain you or a member of your group, knowing that an arrest or detainment would lead to a FELONY charge (Having illegal guns/drugs/etc.) You are PK active after shooting/killing an officer.

+1 some props on the list would be nice, but I think most are removed bc of something to do with the entities just my thoughts though.

Your in the system, but like even the guy that put you in the system isnt gonna instantly remember your name. Cops that come across you would have to run your name again anyway. Theres the whole you know people of HC are extremely well known and knowing their name isnt meta, and idk if your HC but it kinda extends to capos too. And thats true your right but this is more important for people of lower ranks or of more secretive operations. Again I think a temp name, for like an hour or hell even a day would be fine. As Caboose also mentioned gun stores need to see ID, and a lot of people dont wanna give their names out to those people either. All this suggestion is for is to see where people stand with it, I know Robin Foxx would literally go around fishing for f3s been told that by many people. If this were denied which I think is very likely then you know its fine. But it also gives UA a glimpse to see that a lot of people have concern about cops having their name permanently. I've given my name to a total of 1 cop and I didnt even start this suggestion bc of that. I started it bc in the back of my mind I didnt like that I had to give up my name to gunstore employees and then hearing people complain about the whole cop f3 fishing. I figured maybe a suggestion would help, I appreciate your input bc what your saying does hold some weight and all Im trying to suggest is a compromise on how IDs give names because you never got the name from IDs before.

I think what you lacking to understand is that, when a cop comes up to you they ask for you id, you give it to them they search your name in the registry and if the person attempting to arrest someone for open carry is patrolling alone that's on them. You saying you need my name for a week after instead of an hour proves my point honestly. It's not that hard to go "hey I need to see ID, *pulls up registry Ctrl+f first name and first 3 letters of last* yup ok checks out" or the Ctrl+f finds you nothing and you attempt an arrest it doesn't change the process it changes who gets you name and for how long.

again it could be a temporary thing, they get the name for like an hour. Regardless people who have long ass names its not like you can copy it just from having it show above their head.

Fuck Id rather them keep asking then have my name. Thats for certain, like I said in a post prior cops dont just remember peoples names from looking at an ID 1 time. They remember what they look like but not what their names are unless they are frequently arrested.

well ok lets get it straight then, you PKd me for talking shit on you OOC, had my friends PK me because you thought I was start a "rebellion" as a fucking made man. the order read MIA and disrespect to HC and I had done nothing but shown respect it was you that couldnt handle me. Because look where you are now, PKd from 14k as well. What you told me for the name thing was your going to give him or name or else someone is gonna end up falling off world corp.

Like I said I think asking for the ID for open carrying is fine. But having permanent access to someone's name for something their legally allowed to do is kind of dumb

Says the guy that PKd me bc I was having problems with giving my name to someone I didnt trust.

never said I was invincible, but another think about is take into account even in real life cops get your id and theyll recognize you but they wont remember your name, unless you are frequently arrested. Another suggestion that could add too it is that its a temporary name remembrance. Where cops get your id and then they get your name for X amount of time.

I believable we should go back to having it so when you show someone your license it does not actually give them your name. There has been a lot of cops just going around asking for ID for having a gun, which is fine but it would clear up a lot of problems with people getting arrested because they dont want cops to have their name. My suggestion to the change could be to have it so when you look at someone's ID when their cuffed the cop gets the name of the perp. That way when someone is legally open carrying cops dont just f3 fish and go let me see your ID and get the name of the person, this would prevent a lot of people from just outright being arrested for refusing to essentially give up their name.

CS2 sucks, I wanna go back to CSGO. The only thing good about cs2 is the fucking update to the graphics. Otherwise it blows.