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hahahaha I added that because I know when I shoot someone the server doesn't detect it so I tested it with my custom hitsound to see how many shots will it take to kill someone or does it even detect (couple of my shots always go undetected)

bro are you fucking mario

Why would it say fired first or escalated to shootout why doesn't it say only fired first because for you firing is the only way to escalate the situation, read the rules again.

"This does not apply if it is the Police that fired first or escalated to a shootout." a baton does not escalate

Yes you can't die from it but it damages you and therefore escalates the situation and starts the violent confrontation.

I just got the information that I was indeed PK'd because I shot at the Probationary Officer I want the Administration to take a look at my video because the Admin that PK'd me didn't want to look at it, so my HUD is turned on you can see my HP when I shoot at the Cop that hit me with the baton he pulls out his SMG and drops my HP a bit and a second before I kill him you can hear the shots ring out from the Senior Officer that killed me showing that the confrontation was on (You can slow down the video if you are not sure but you don't need to because it clearly shows that he shot at me before I kill the other officer.). (Generally we want people to not immediately go for the gun when dealing with Police, as a result if you escalate a situation to a shootout and lose you can be punished via PK as your character was killed. This does not apply if it is the Police that fired first or ESCALATED to a shootout.) This should be a straightforward appeal where you go by the rules and the rules only nothing out of the them. Let's say the Officer never hit me with the baton and I pull out my MAC-11 and start shooting them that would be a different scenario where I would never even appeal the PK. But that doesn't matter since the Officer escalated the situation as it states in the rules that only "Taser" does not escalate the situation, and while I dealt with the Officer that hit me and later shot me, the other Officer started the confrontation making my character immune to the PK because I shot at the Probationary Officer. But what else can I say but the PKing admin can only wish me Good Luck. I don't think thats on him for PKing me I think thats on the rules not being clear and my situation was a bit different because I didn't get to show him my clip. I am not trying to find a loophole in the rules you can clearly see the rules by yourself.

"Note: In the server the tazer is non violent as it cannot physically kill or damage the player.)" that is different from the tazer as the tazer deals no damage, this is an invalid pk for sure.

So what u cant die from it ever

it deals damage

The baton cant kill

Name of Character: Raúl "El Rápido" Suárez Character ID: 192254 SteamID:STEAM_0:0:861418935 Your Discord ID#:536291448602230854 Date of PK:24/10/26 Reason for PK: VCWP Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: So I was stopped because I was wearing a Ballistic Vest I took the Vest off and the Cop wanted to detain me because I was listening to his orders to take it off. I was evading the arrest and shortly after the same cop pulls out a baton and starts hitting me initiating a confrontation because he is damaging me in that moment I pulled out a gun killed him and I got killed by a Senior Officer on my right. So same scenario happened when I was on my PD Char and I happen to shot a guy that pulled out a gun on us because another cop was hitting him with a baton. One Admin says it's a PK another says it's not so I wouldn't be that dumb to shoot 3 cops to risk my char if i know i was in the right or if the staff told me you can see the video I provided me being on a roof and another cop hitting him and it wasn't a PK after I killed him. So in the PK Guidelines it says "Note: In the server the tazer is non violent as it cannot physically kill or damage the player.)" I don't see a taser mentioned here the admin that PK'd me said it is not a violent confrontation because it's like a taser but it clearly states that taser doesn't "DAMAGE" because damaging is a violent confrontation and I shot at the cop that escalated the situation and while I was doing it another cop was fast and started shooting the same second. Next time please when this happens make it clear in the rules because some admins see it a bit differently if the excuse is that I shot at the Probie that did not have the gun out yes it's because when I shot at the cop that hit me with the baton the SO shot at me escalating the whole situation I didn't have time to react to shoot at him first because I was focused on the probie I would ofc shoot first at the SO but he got me fast because the black officer i killed hit me couple times with his smg you can slow down my clip and hear the gunshots coming from the glock even before I shoot at the Probationary Officer. I wouldn't shoot at him if the cop didn't shoot me with the smg and the SO with the Glock. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: Me dying (https://streamable.com/gqpwyt) and the part I was mentioning (https://streamable.com/2ab6s5)

Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

Yeah this is just terrible metagaming. Very clearly against the rules invalidating this PK. You will be moved out of the faction all IC knowledge you had gained from the death before your death is now null and void, you cannot target the faction as well in retaliation to your death.

you were the guy who turned on his camera and started to beef with a guy in the Diverge VC, right? u are a fucking legend bro

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

There isn't really a clear basis for making a ruling on the OOC conflict, as it ultimately comes down to a he sai -she said situation. Regardless, the orders were written due to you participating in the faction's illegal racket without the proper authorization, which is something that has been proven through logs. The faction leader is not required to possess IC evidence of your involvement for the PK to be considered valid.

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hello, it seems you are a bit confused as to what mugging zones are. As the pking admin clarified, you are allowed to be placed under fear rp within yellow zones, they just must fear rp you and bring you into a red zone to do the actual tying. Beyond that their Fear rp is clear and you were given ample amount of time to comply before they killed you. Additionally, it was investigated and deemed that the characters involved with this mug are NOT mugging characters.

Hey guys, I get this is a pressing, accusatory situation, but let's try to keep it cool and stick to facts and evidence. No need for any low blows or talking about other stuff. I am following this story as it unfolds, but i bet with all this extra rambling, it makes it a bit annoying for the admins to truly understand what is happening. Best, Not Alice O'Hara

even UA doesnt ask that many questions bro chill..

Andy didn’t speak and was in a dark alleyway with a new player model, he didn’t inspect the body. How did he know it was Andy

The witness was in the clip speaking at 45 seconds

Bro, why are we still arguing about all this in public? If you want to see an example of a proper PK appeal go look at mine, just simple context and the reasons why i believe it should be overturned You guys have turned this whole topic into garbage, if you believe i metagamed show your proof instead of throwing around accusations. If you believe a staff member is abusing their powers, file a staff report. It's not that hard I've already provided all the necessary explanations to the people who actually need them, and I genuinely have no interest, energy, or time left to waste on this drama. Keep crying and barking

Yeah the clip wasn’t posted when the pk happened