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its so pointless to mug now since its gotta be a main character or sum shi, some bs. also so much metagaming

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hello, As the admin who accepted this PK already explained, the listed reasons for your character’s death were: going MIA on the family, failing to pay kickups, and threatening members of the family. The first two reasons may have some nuance behind them, especially given that you were removed from the faction discord and later tried to reach out about returning. Those details could have been explored further. However, the third point, you threatening members of the family, is entirely clear cut. The Don who ordered the PK provided a clip in which you explicitly stated that you would have faction members mugged or killed if they came after you. That is an unmistakable threat. Earlier in the thread you suggested that you may have been baited. I don’t believe that to be the case. They submitted a five minute clip with full context, and it convincingly shows that you weren’t coerced or manipulated into making those statements. Had you not made those threats, it’s possible this appeal may have gone differently. But that reason alone is fully valid grounds for ordering your character’s death.

There's nothing wrong with mugging as long as it is within the server rules. It just one of those things that you HAVE to be knowledgeable about do at your own discretion.

Welcome to having a 9-5

Really, though? I wonder why people hate a hardcore aspect of a game that is almost never engaged with in a balanced or good faith manner- by people who have nothing to lose? Why would someone who has a 2-4 year old character hate a system that’s as brutal as it gets in which someone with a day old character can exploit to cause long lasting or permanent damage to, potentially leading to catastrophic loss (permanent death)? Jeez, I just wonder why someone would have an issue with that? Why are so many bans issued and why do staff who care about the rules and the spirit of the game so adamant about enforcing rules around this thing that’s so easily exploited and used to harass people, target people for OOC/out of game reasons, and literally financially harm people? I just don’t understand why? Please, explain? Why is dickless, coward behavior not rewarded and rooted for? The cool faction leader dudes told me it made me badass and I have aura, so why is the rest of the server so mad? And why do these nerds want to RP? Fucking losers just standing around? Lol? How am I supposed to make money in this game? Why am I banned?

Because it’s sadistic, fuck face, snotbubble snorting, pickle sniffing behavior. Work for your money.

Ladies ladies calm down!

I'll be the bigger man for now and not leak yall's shit

Just proving my point that you are a little kid. Grow up. Giving me Weber flashbacks.

No one here is crying lil bro. Your reasons are under false pretense and you all know it. If you actually cared, any one of you would've contacted me to figure it out. Stop acting like yall even tried. And let's stop talking about the shit i was involved with two weeks ago on this forum. Do you want me name dropping all of the cassano members that have been involved in some freaky shit on the server, starting with you??

I think you should calm down and stop crying. The reasons why you were killed were stated. Stop crying and get on with shit. This hatred you’ve built against us is amusing. All stemming from you simping over a girl. Grow up you manchild.

If you guys all wanted to figure out what was going on then why the fuck was I not talked to or requested to speak to in-game. You guys just stopped caring after the drama and are trying to play it off as if I didn't try to talk to yall about it. There's a good reason why a good portion of the server doesn't like this faction or the members in it

That's the exact fucking problem we have here. Yall didn't bother to chat about it despite me talking about it. You of all people as ex-don should know about your members that were unnecessarily killed.

Was gonna chat didn’t bother in the end. I’m just more confused about this so-called long history we apparently have so if you wanna elaborate on it that would be great. I don’t know how you could comment on that really but go for it.

Aren't you the one who removed me from all of the associated discords and then added me a few days ago wanting to talk, and then ended up never talking to me about whatever the fuck the conversation was going to be.

Going MIA by being kicked, outed and having no way to contact anyone from HC?? Did they want me to fly back home from vacation early just so I can pay a kickup for a faction that removed my access and said nothing to me at all about it. I've been trying to talk to these fucks for days and no IC convos or sit-downs were made until today. And it wasn't even a sit-down at that. Talking in vc to the one guy in cassanos that I have access to and he tells me to hop in game to finish the convo so he can get a clip to send to HC and later dm me to get on after restart and meet him somewhere. The threats are empty, but im tired of mfs dodging me all week while Im trying to figure out wtf happened and no one wants to talk, so yeah threats are the last resort to try and get them to put some kind of sit-down together so we can figure shit out.

“The Cassanos have a history of killing people without logical IC evidence/reasoning” Who even are you you’re tweaking put the cup down

I accepted responsibility for that shit that happened outside the server and apologized to who it affected, regardless it has nothing to do with orders for leaving the faction.

Hey man you were PKed for going MIA, not paying kickups, and threatening members of the family. Now, this PK is different because they did have some evidence against you! I did see a part of the clip where you basically say you're going to mug high command, you have some people that would do it for a certain amount of money, and if you leave, you're gonna take some custom clothing items. This was a threat to them, so these were all the reasons on why you were PKed!

I never even left the faction IC. All one of you had to do was send a fuckin message or request a meeting/sit-down. All of yall have your discord messaging on server-only and no one was responding to fucking friend requests. The fact that I only heard from priest, zq, and paulie in the last two weeks is crazy and none of them mentioned anything other than everyone in the faction hates me. I've heard members talk about retiring and they just left and came back. On top of that how the fuck are you supposed to talk to me when you kick me out of the discord(go check your audit logs) within a day and not even attempt to contact me at all. I've been on my pc here and there apart from going on vacation, but haven't been on gmod since the 13th and today so idk how you want me to pay for the two weeks I was "gone" for. And nice baiting me into that for your clip, I just wanted a sit-down or some kind of resolution after yall kicked me and said absolutely fucking nothing. I didn't have to come back, I already know yall hated me for the drama and the fact that I called you out OOC for being weird, over the bella shit. I know how yall use OOC bias to find ways to kill people IC, you act like I haven't met other people on the server and seen this shit happen in the faction. I mean yall quite literally killed Vinny over OOC drama until he made an appeal to rightfully come back on his char.

I wrote the orders on you. first off, you retired over OOC shit saying Gmod isnt for you anymore before we could even ask you what was going on. We never gave you approval to retire. You just left. Weeks go by, and you are saying you want to come back, which means you havent been paying into anything for the weeks you left. Then you flat out told our Head Enforcer that if we dont let you back in you will mug or kill HC to get what you want. You said this in the city to him IC and it was clipped. Which is why we moved forward with the PK. You accept the risks of death when you enter this thing. There is even a little notification you agree to when you join.

i didnt even mention alts fuck nigga

Thanks for the TDLR monaclu has a yap problem