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-1 Why is he applying a PK from 20 years ago XD 2006 ahh

+1 HC has ex-successful faction leaders in it, I've heard good things about them aswell.

-1 this guy gotta get his money up

Hello, guy who wrote the orders here. When you became a prospect you were told about the bar tabs. You were fully aware and even paid one on 12/29/2025. When I had this conversation with you in the church, asking you what was going on, I never told you to wait until the deal. Even if I did, the amount you had for the deal would not have been enough for your 70k that you owe. I wrote the orders on this basis. I could give a fuck less about your cop character because, like Riddy said above, we have multiple guys in our faction with cop characters and their actions on those characters do not effect our relationship/our role play on their SoS characters. When we had the conversation, I offered you loa/retirement and you took neither. I also don’t recall you saying anything about paying after the deal. This just is what it is brother. Have hard feelings if you would like. For us, it’s just the role play.

This should absolutely get this thrown out. You tried to prevent allegations of metagame by removing audio from a PK clip? Clear metagame the situation is void.

I was never confronted with the figure 70k, I was asked "whats going on brother?" during church. Nobody told me anything was due, there was no multiple attempts to warn me, and when you knew I was working to pay off whatever number I was owing, you killed me before I got the chance and made sure to take my cut before killing me, my cut that would've gone back to the club anyways. It went from "whats going on brother?", to ghosting in DMs, ignoring me in game, and insulting me on the forums. ("Thanks also ps could care less for your pd char as your a lil fish", "This guys a bozo with a weak appeal") All in the span of 48 hours or less. The change up is crazy, I was farmed for the PK the very second you thought you had the minimum requirement, when I was ordered into that situation.

Because we can because you refused to pay your taxes as stated you take that pledge when you join the faction as well as our own club by laws 70k is multiple weeks of not paying your tab.

Why would they kill me before the crew deal, after they told me to wait for the crew deal, knowing the crew deal would be what made up for kickups? They told me to wait, and waiting is what got me killed. That logical hole is my problem here.

Here is some more context since he likes to leave it out. I specified to him at the time he was not going to be disliked by HC for this. As a member of command myself I can confirm this is true. No one had any ill will towards him for this situation. This was simply a issue were I was a lawyer for a citizen. If it really was such an issue to us we would have have delt with it sooner. The reason he died has been stated he did not pay taxes and we have been cracking down on it. Furthermore you state that I was waiting and waiting for a deal. But you know how to speak to people if you really had any interest in paying tabs you would have found a way to make the money. However you dwelled on it

Were you not on my ass literally yesterday in a VC about Ciggy's case?

These arrests were not even related to SOS characters so I don't understand how this pertains to the question at hand. Everything in those DM's was about friends on citizens.

The only time I was ever confronted was at church earlier this week, two days ago, where I told you guys that I was having a rough time and explained my OOC situation. I even asked for help on the discord to pedal drugs so that I could earn some money in order to pay my dues, to which I was told to wait until the crew deal. The crew deal that I was killed before ever getting a chance to participate in- in order to pay my dues. I was told to wait until the crew deal on discord, instead of doing rumors to sell my stuff, and I was killed anyways. I thought, because I was told to wait, and how the crew deal is literally later today, that I would be given a chance to earn some money to kick up. Instead I was killed, and the drugs that would've earned me my kickup was taken from me anyways. It is claimed I was confronted multiple times, this is false, only once, TWO days ago. Where I was told on discord to wait for the crew deal instead of going off on my own and making money. Conveniently I was kicked out of the discord and cannot prove I was told to wait. The only possible reason that I can fathom that you guys would up and kill me where you told me to WAIT to make money, which is why I was killed for not having money in time, is because of some kind of bias due to my conduct on my police char. When I asked for context on discord as to why I was killed, and approached people in game using LOOC, nobody said anything to me, or offered context. The only context being offered is "we told him too bad" when this is false. I have attached a screenshot of the DMs between me and the individual who carried out the PK, expressing discontent at my conduct on PD. It pains me to do this, considering Carl and I (I thought) were friends. He has up until this point ghosted me over a gmod PK, which is wild. Just yesterday, Carl was on my ass in a separate VC literally yesterday about writing affidavits against faction members, harping on me to "just claim conflict", I find it interesting the next day the very same guy PKs me for not having kickup when I was told to wait until the crew deal to make money, and was never given a chance to make it to the crew deal. Edit for clarification: They knew I was trying to make money, they told me to wait until the crew deal, they killed me before the crew deal. They ordered me into the situation they killed me over, this treatment is unfair and could only derive from one thing: some kind of OOC bias.

+1 great idea and great people.

Hey Randy So I was the staff member who set your character pk active. The reason why is because according to your faction leaders, you kept skipping paying the taxes you owed them, eventually leading to your death. When you join a criminal faction, you should be aware that your actions do have consequences and avoiding them is not the way to go. On top of that, the situation with your police character had nothing to do with this situation, as far as I saw it, as they never even mentioned your cop character, leading me to believe this pk does not result from OOC beef. However, if you do have evidence that´s the case, feel free to publish such evidence in this thread.

-1 not a great guy

Crazy to say as we told you to make a loa stop being a hypocrite we have club by laws you didn’t follow them and now cry that we pked you over your cop char… you owed 70k and didn’t pay give or take the crew deal was gonna happen we asked for money you said you didn’t have it. Multiple times. As for bringing in pd relations I could care less for we have many members who have a Cop 2nd life so this statement is just invalid

Get back to grinding bricks for the Don You go to work in the dark and you go home in the fucking dark

I would like to note that when I initially reviewed the video, there was no audio available, and I have not viewed it again until now. After reviewing the comments, I rewatched the video and can now confirm that clear meta-gaming is present. This issue will be addressed separately with the individual involved in the PKing, in accordance with server rules.

Hello PKing Admin, Regarding the death of your character: at the time of the incident, you were being mugged at gunpoint. While under a direct threat to your life, you were given multiple opportunities to comply with the mugger’s demands. Despite this, you continued to move, resisted when the mugger attempted to restrain you, and ultimately produced a firearm while still being held at gunpoint. This showed a clear disregard for your character’s life and directly escalated the situation. By failing to value your life under an active lethal threat, you broke Fear RP, which directly resulted in your character’s death. For this reason, the PK.

To prevent this exact situation from happening. The flooded comments about Metagame. The headache as a whole.

Why'd you remove the sound from the clip?

Explanation here: This stunt was going on for a good 5 minutes before the beginning of this clip. About 2 minutes in I decided to join a call that had a staff member in it (the only staff member that was available to me during this time, which was around 4AM) and share my screen to see if it was a valid mug. I had no intention of PKing the guy, I went in to mug for items he had on his character, he didn't want to comply. He was being mugged on his own property so I wasn't completely sure if he was able to be PK'd because of it or what. I was riding solo this whole time, and only wanted confirmation from a staff member if what I was doing was allowed. Granted, it definitely wasn't the best idea to be sharing my screen at all and instead just explain to him the situation, this entire scenario seems pretty funky I'll admit that. And if it's against the rules to do what I did, then I'm willing to face punishment for my actions. All it was at the time was just me wanting confirmation from staff, that's all.

Dude this is 100 % Metagame bro you can here them in the background in the clip in a VC and you can hear his push to talk and you can hear people join on his stream well he is live streaming the mug as well as a staff member in the clip as well in the VC like what lmao ?

I was told two days ago that I could make an LOA if I needed it, I explained the upcoming crew deal would help me settle my debts. A reasonable person would assume its okay to wait two days for money to come in, instead of PKing me and then taking all the drugs I would've paid them with anyways. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I was simply treated unfairly given I explained my circumstances. Nobody explicitly told me I owed 70k, but I clearly explained my real life circumstances and any person would expect to be given some wiggle room. Edit: I believe my unfair treatment to be potentially motivated by actions on my PD character separate from my SOS character.