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RICOs kill factions, and theres no fun in that when the point of the server is to mafia rp. I wouldnt be opposed to something similar to rico that is way nerfed and not incredibly hard to prevent. So much would have to change for RICO cases to be able to coexist with crim factions
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Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Literally like if we're gonna shift things to make police more powerful we do need to have better measures to control those at the bottom to prevent several forms of abuse. Why should a freshie that joined 30 minutes ago be given access to a supplier that his management never introduced him to? If he wants to do drugs before his faction gave him the import connection, maybe he should go grind weed in the ghetto. -
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE In all seriousness it makes 110% sense that a criminal organisation can tell it's supplier who will be handling drugs and who won't be. Having flags to order drugs that are able to be handed out via a UI only people with the capo flag have access to would be INCREDIBLE. Would also do NUMBERS for preventing racket abuse.
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recruiting for a mass mugging group dont tell the admins
bigwillyhumper69 replied to Davis's topic in General Discussion
average italian faction, no rp just mugging -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
I'm not even saying give it razor sharp teeth. But like if you constantly fuck around you should find out at some point with some level of finality imo. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Would actually prefer this option ngl I'd actually be down to erase this whole suggestion and replace it with this -
faction member has argument with hc faction member gets arrested all faction hc gets arrested gg doesnt work in a video game format, rico LITERALLY killed mafias irl. THIS IS MAFIA RP!!!!
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Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
bigwillyhumper69 replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
why not just let detectives do their jobs instead of putting restrictions on them because italian factions are so fucking retarded they let undercover transgender freaks in -
Every faction has pretty much one consolidated goal: hire as many fucking retarded people as possible to grind bricks for the Don. They do this with limited consequences. You work the door for half an hour without any rp, maybe even less than that, then you're an oil bitch for a week or two before you get into drugs. These factions hire and don't punish some of the most questionable individuals that get caught every 10 min doing shit. The staggering amount of people who operate with little to no operational security, die, and come back in a week is mind blowing. Before this gets mass downvoted hear me out please. This isn't just a "buff pd nerf crims" post. If thought out and implemented correctly it can bring an increase in faction rp quality, gives prenatal Tylenol victims something to do, and ideally it would give dons and high command more faction management tools. 1) Implement a system for faction high command to control who gets access to drugs and/or guns. If we're gonna invite a chance that a faction can take some significant damage from poor opsec, it's best that they get the ability to pick and choose who of their people can partake in the activities most vital and dangerous to their continued existence. The meat and potatoes of a RICO case is establishing that a criminal enterprise exists and a pattern of crimes from the past present and planned future crimes. In order for a RICO case to work, you'd have to have fucked up very severely as the bar to prove them is pretty high. Therefore if you're gonna mass hire muscle, best make sure there are tools to allow management to at least macro manage these guys. 2) Have bingus cook up the RICO act. Straightforward stuff. He'd have to weigh out the balance to ensure it's not powergame rape nonsense but still give it teeth. If you're gonna hire a fucking mong white shirt with a bat who selects hands instead of keys every time to then go represent your group in drug deals with potential lasting consequences, that's literally on those who hire. Rather than trying to run a zerg of brick grinders, rp with your new hires and thoroughly feel them out and train them. If the cops are so far up your ass that they're able to prove a RICO case against you that's literally a consequence of poor operational security. Bank sharing en masse? That's literally on your people. Murders in broad daylight? That's literally on your people. Your guys wearing your colors while felony maxxing in broad daylight (and probably doing it in your company car)? That's literally on your people. Having properties owned by a middleman to keep heat off the Don is good shit. Having businesses run by people not the Don is good shit. There are so many measures to take to prevent a RICO case that if it happens and totally dunks on your people it's not the fault of the police and courts for ripping your nuts off. 3) Da Fedz Ah yes I know what you're thinking: isn't this basically detectives+? Kind of but the difference would be that they explicitly would be limited in numbers (call it 5 for sake of balance) but given more legal powers to punish lazy or stupid factions. Being able to get records requests faster and easier, being able to expedite processes of seizure and suspension, and charges they bring coming with some significant fines and jail time for those on the other side of it. Will they be weaponized against disliked factions? No because it comes with the caveats: no former don characters, no characters over senior associate at all in any faction, preference for gov mains, and they aren't allowed to press city level charges only state (and possibly fed?) charges. The balance comes from their numbers. It forces the group to need to be on top of their shit and cull people who aren't doing their job. It would be meant for only the best of the best. The idea in my head is that there needs to be a legitimate threat to factions that aren't careful and enforcing careful operations. Having outside hit contracts, enforcing decorum, and being generally slick gives you nothing much to worry about. But opening yourself up for a colonoscopy should result in one being scheduled whether you want it or not. Thoughts?
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recruiting for a mass mugging group dont tell the admins
tj21003 replied to Davis's topic in General Discussion
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recruiting for a mass mugging group dont tell the admins
david replied to Davis's topic in General Discussion
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hey guys im trying to form a group where we mass mug on alternative characters if your interested pop me a dm on the forums
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Coco is actually short cocoseph
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legend of lucas hangover aka coco's best friend he would roll and depending on the number thats how many millions he would kickup
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god i fucking hate coco so much...
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Logs state that you zip tied someone else, and, again, people/allies went to your higher ups and stated that you were scamming them. They said YOUR NAME in orders, and you were PKed by those orders. I did realize you had the same name on your other character, but it didn't have the same nickname and wasn't in Kosher. This confirmed that you did, in fact, mug someone. I asked the person who put the orders on you, and people were going to him, saying you were trying to scam allies. Your HC believed their allies and the people telling your HC about what you'd done and had you taken out due to the complaints about you.
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Hello, Banning Admin here. You were banned for the following actions: You and several associates were ramming other players with your Citroën. You pulled out a firearm and attempted to force players out of their vehicle in front of the hotdog NPC. When they did not comply and drove away, you shot and killed both individuals. You left right after shooting them not waiting for the 15 Min Cooldown These actions are clear violations of server rules, including fail-RP, RDM, and improper escalation.
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+1 Boy kisser but hes valid
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I get that I did tie someone up, im sure you can look at anyone's logs and fir that. what I want is proof that I was mugging and scamming and was too much of a liability. I know I did join mafia and also did agree on the terms, but they would still have to have reason and I believe they did but it was for someone else. I never mugged or scammed any allies, the only thing im left to think is I was targeted and they just did not want me in the group anymore or this is a mistake. thanks for understanding!
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It was other people telling your higher ups that it was you and that you were mugging and robbing people. There is logs to confirm that you did tie someone up, joke or not, they believed that you were mugging and scamming and were too much of a liability. You did join mafia and you also did agree on the terms when you first joined.
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mic being left on when someone hangs up on you during a phone call
DiscreetRavager replied to adam's topic in Bugs
Jeez I apologize in advance for anyone who gets the doomed fate of hearing my background noise consisting of my Fan, Baby crying, me coughing and sneezing -
Hello! I'm the staff member that approved your PK! If you don't know PK- means Permanent Kill, what this means is your character basically had the equivalent of dying in real life. The reason why you were killed was due to you breaking Fear RP. Someone with a gun had it pointed at you and was trying to rob you; if you comply you usually live but in this case you had not complied to reasonable demands. This act of breaking Fear RP is showing disregard for your characters life and in return lead to your characters death. I would recommend reading the PK Guidelines as it has more than one reason that can lead to your characters death! Sorry for the loss of your character!
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Irool joined the community
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I did tie one person up but that was a joke, again you have the wrong person I never scammed anyone, how can they say that if it was not me? its my second day on the character, they clearly have me mixed up with someone else........ Can you review this a little more?
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Hi, the reason why you were PKed was due to you mugging people and scamming allies. I checked your logs, and it did confirm that you did tie somebody up with restraints. Your higher-ups also kept on getting notified that you were scamming allies. They killed you for these reasons because you were quite a liability for their faction and could have started some problems for them.
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can i check your hard drives