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Police should already be tasked with doing this under the IC notion of cleaning up a crime scene and collecting evidence. Police literally do this detail IRL. No faction or citizens should be tasked with it. Just another lazy, retarded, and typical instance that highlights lack of attention to detail by half-ass PD mains who totally aren’t just pussies afraid of losing a real character that are allergic to RP.

it’s literally not

i understand the perspective and that everyone has their own preferences for gameplay- and im sure most of us have done something once or twice that wasn’t the most rp-inclined thing at an off hour. your example is a great one for why we shouldn’t get comfortable doing that on the server. i count multiple fresh to the city folk who have no idea what they’re doing and this probably isn’t the best precedent to set for them. as aforementioned i can only see it being used as a crutch for the people coming onto this server strictly to try and hone their skills, check weapon stats, etc- but additionally it would shell a chunk of the exchange that takes place between people and weapon stores. what’s the point of asking around for what weapons and attachments are good if you just get told ‘bro….. just go on the ffa server and find out’. optimistically an outlet would still be nice. as much as i personally don’t like the idea, the build server could realistically be able to host a more sandbox setting where people can switch between pvp/build modes. in prevention of people trying to min/max the shit out of an IC weapon build; every single weapon would likely need to be modified in movement, damage, RoF, recoil, draw, etc- until its marketably unrecognizable compared to the main server weapons. (i love your optimism, but there are definitely people trying that hard. we have some real urchins around here if you look for them) it seems like it may be more hassle than it’s worth when we could just get GMs to break up the monotony for people looking for a breather from the RP with more occasional events. it really depends though, because i could also see a big enough chunk of people wanting something like this to make it happen

i think it should be looked at in a different way, not as a "practice" server but more as a fun little side server where u can have some down time, maybe even make it donator only to help w the costs! pvp has ALWAYS been seen in a very negative light in the rp space and for good reason but when it comes to it, its fun! i can PROMISE you, if it gets added NO ONE is going on there for 7 hours to "practice their gmod pvp", we already have 1942 rp for that lol, there are also 100x more effective ways to "practice" if your that dedicated to mafia pvp. it will most likely be used for friendly 1v1s or 2v2s ect ect! and at the end of the day, if u dont like the pvp dont join the pvp server! (if it gets added) ps, if it does become a thing, i would imagine it would be like the old pvp system with 3rd person and no recoil as that is what that majority of pvp enjoyers would prefer so you wouldnt even be "training" functional skills that you could bring over to the live rp server

we got rid of ooc

Better than crying and deleting it after appeals are denied. Plus, it makes the medicine go down smoother to be able to see what you have achieved in your character’s life. +1 but not at the expense of other more important things falling behind in queue/roadmap of things to be added/fixed

I mean, a dedicated server for it is better than practicing in the streets; but practicing in the first place doesn’t sit right with me. I generally agree with one of the above sentiments concerning your character’s ability not exceeding anyone else. The average person shouldn’t be a jump down turn around 360 no scope crack shot. This is a semi-serious roleplay server. Why do we take it for granted that people brush that off sometimes and try to gain an unfair edge by deciding when or when not the Metagame should or shouldn’t be a focus. What happened to “find out IC” sentiments permeating to all things in the game?

+1 Don't let this suggestion be forgotten

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I handled a similar ticket regarding this earlier. A faction was attempting to roleplay run their business next door and have a meeting in their backroom. A cassette player was placed intentionally against the corner wall of your property to maximize audio overlap and placed on the loudest possible setting with the direct intention of annoying them and disrupting their roleplay while you were outside their shop looking in. Considering that your property was empty of any person or placed dupe I deduced that there was no active or valid roleplay occurring that warranted the music continuing at that volume and deleted the cassette player. If you are intentionally engaging with an aspect of the server in bad faith to negatively impact someone's gameplay for no reason that is considered minging / NITRP, you are not providing any roleplay benefit and the sole purpose of your actions are to annoy another group of players, regardless if you claim that it is for valid RP reasons. In these instance staff members have told you to stop and when that happens you must abide by their demands I understand you may have been under the assumption this was acceptable from Dong but he simply gave you $1,000 to comp you for losing $100 when he deleted your hifi which he assumed was the issue you had with it, though he should have informed you that intentionally using music boxes to annoy or disrupt players is not permitted and can be viewed as NITRP. While I believe that Sexaphone was justified in his ban, though the length could have been shorter, In this instance I will remove the ban as it's reasonable to believe you were given incorrect information by a staff member, but going forward do not misuse music players to disrupt other players roleplay and if a staff member instructs you to stop doing something, even if another told you it's ok, comply until you can get the opinion of a staff member with a higher rank. Will mitigate this issue from a mechanical perspective in the future to prevent it from being a further issue.

Responding to your comments here. 1. The buildings are beside each other with a thin wall in between. 2. I was not playing "Yoko Ono Earrape". I was playing "Kumko Morita - Kimigayo." Which is far from what you have stated. 3. I was not being inconsiderate at all, if you check the logs throughout the time I was playing my music I was meditating. Pulling me into a sit for something in character, and continuing to delete and disrupt my roleplay is inconsiderate and you ruined my experience. A previous staff member who spoke with me "Dong" clearly stated in the screenshot provided that what I was doing was not against the rules and gave me enough to buy 10 more hi-fi's and told me to continue.

Hey, banning staff here. Your meditation roleplay could have easily been continued elsewhere in the building and instead was carried out as close as you could get to their building, at full volume, during an event. After a PM saying move it and turn it down, I deleted your first hifi playing yoko ono earrape. This was after the sit which I explained the other side's perspective and why you were being inconsiderate; you were adamant that you didn't care and that your meditation roleplay (sitting afk while music blares at an event next door) was more important. You also insisted I should "Keep deleting the hifis for content" after deleting the first. You place another hifi blaring music and I banned you for no intent to roleplay. You ruined the experience for others via your hifi and the rule that you're violating is "Be mature and responsible with it, if you are found abusing it, it will be removed" after I fairly removed your hifi, you placed another and hurt the roleplay of those around you, showing your lack of interest for roleplay and highlighted your need for attention. I do not feel my ban was unjust, hope this clears it up. Good luck on your appeal

+1 Good guy. He just hates me when I'm a lawyer.

Bro it was a decision of try to drive away or tear gas an entire crowd lmao

I was playing music in the same location and was harassed for it as well https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lr2EIC8qBjkvvAfiy?invite=cr-MSxuNTgsMjA3NjkwMTkw&v=155 i have a clip of dutch saying its IC, anecdotally I viewed them putting in multiple other tickets and receiving the same answer. The building next door also plays music all day and we don't complain, its New Jersey, it's loud. I'm not sure how deep NITRP here goes, but there is clearly need for clarification within staff regarding, uh. noise complaints, i guess. but 2 days with no priors seems excessive on the surface, also; i like to play music in the same location and don't want to deal with something like this.

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lqJWTkYaDVeX7Kqlg?invite=cr-MSxFblIsMzY1MTAxNw&v=57 Bro couldn't even handle the retards.

Ban Appeal Format: Below is the format that you must followed when making a ban appeal, you must copy all sections and fill them out in detail. Rules: You may only make one appeal per ban, if you are denied you must wait out the remainder of your ban. If it's permanent, you may appeal again in 6 months. You may only comment on an appeal if you were DIRECTLY involved with the situation leading up to the ban OR the appeal is for a permanent ban. Replies that are not relevant to the situation will result in a forum warning and/or ban. You must follow the provided template for the appeal, failure to do so will result in an instant denial. Our bans page (https://bans.divergenet.works/) can provide any missing information such as the reason, issuing staff member, length, etc. Your Character or Steam Name: Yo-Yo Ling Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:90950366 Your Discord ID#: homeslicey Reason for ban: NITRP. Length of ban: 2 Days. Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute. Why should you be unbanned? I was unfairly banned for no intent to roleplay, when I made it very clear to the staff I was roleplaying. SexaphoneGod pulled me to a sit and told me people next door to my business were not happy with the music being played. I told him multiple times I was roleplaying meditating and it is not against the rules to use a music box on a property that I have ownership of. He then told me to play my music elsewhere as it was interfering with roleplay next door. I said that is an in character issue, and should be handled in character, he then ignored what I had said and put me back in my business. Once I was in my business he then was invisible and deleted my hi-fi box. I told him it is not against the rules what I am doing and that he is ruining my meditation roleplay. I then spawned another one as Dong earlier had told me to purchase 10 and continue what I was doing. Before I could even start my music SexaphoneGod deleted it yet again, I told him keep deleting it, and I will keep placing another one down. As I place another one down and begin my meditation music and do /me meditates without any warning I get banned for 2 days for NITRP. https://gyazo.com/eb7ca1517a537af79f592a4957d6128c I was unfairly banned for 2 days with no priors. I was told by multiple staff before that what I was doing was not against the rules. For example Dong literally gave me $1,000 and said buy 10 and continue. https://gyazo.com/1d584b203864ac62989d6d178a334496 Additional Information (images, videos, etc):

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Can you reliably reproduce this?

Moved this to bugs section. This was not intended / intentional, will soon be fixed.

Making an alt isn't a ban, using an alt account to ban evade is what gets you permanently banned. Which is exactly what you tried to do a couple of days ago.

Hes goated +1