PK Appel

[Goblins]

Name of Character: Crhistopher Kinahan

Character ID: 174936 

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:231340025

Your Discord ID#: Goblins12

Date of PK: 22/08/26

Reason for PK: Unknown
 

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?

I believe this PK should be overturned because the PK was facilitated through OOC communication on Discord, rather than being initiated and carried out naturally through IC roleplay.

The person who performed the PK is a member of the same family. I had already left the server before he did the PK. Instead of the situation naturally occurring in-game, he contacted me through Discord and specifically asked me to come back to the server, presenting it as something urgent that required me to return. I trusted what I was told and returned to the server, after which the PK was carried out.

This is important because the Discord communication was not unrelated to the situation. It was directly used to get me back into the server so that the PK could happen. Without that OOC communication, I would not have returned to the server at that moment and the situation leading to the PK would not have occurred in the same way.

The PK Guidelines specifically state:

> “Using OOC means of communication to perform a PK will invalidate it / the evidence for a PK.”

Discord is an OOC means of communication, and in this situation it was used specifically to facilitate the circumstances in which the PK was performed. The rule is intended to prevent OOC communication from being used to manipulate or facilitate a character's death through information or communication that does not exist within the roleplay.

There is also a separate rule stating:

> “You may not bait someone into a PK.”

While the rule gives examples such as deliberately starting a confrontation and escalating it, the underlying principle is that players should not manipulate a situation specifically in order to create an opportunity to PK someone. In my case, I was contacted outside of the game and convinced to return to the server, and the result was that I was placed into a situation where I was PK'd.

There is also a concern with the evidence itself. In the screenshots provided, the conversation appears to be incomplete. At one point it appears as though I am suddenly responding to myself, which indicates that part of the conversation is missing. The Discord messages leading up to me returning to the server are therefore important context, because they explain why I returned and what I was told before the PK occurred.

I am not arguing that a PK can never happen simply because Discord was used at some point. My argument is that Discord was directly used to facilitate this specific PK by getting me back into the server after I had already left. That makes the OOC communication directly relevant to how the PK was carried out.

For these reasons, I believe the PK does not meet the intended PK standards and should be overturned. At minimum, I believe the Discord conversation should be reviewed in full before the PK is considered valid, including the missing messages and the circumstances under which I was asked to return to the server.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:

By PK GuideLines:

Line 203: ■ You may not bait someone into a PK. This means that starting a confrontation in order to escalate it then use that as a reason to PK someone, this is not permitted. This includes mugging or kidnapping to abuse Fear RP PKs

 

2. Using OOC terms over Mic, (Such as yelling "thats a pk, thats a pk!" After killing someone) may void the PK entirely. Remain in character at all times.

 

3. Using OOC means of communication to perform a PK will invalidate it / the evidence for a PK.

 

[SexaphoneGod]

Hello, I am the admin that set your character active as result of orders being written by your faction. When you join any criminal faction, you are met with this prompt:

I cannot speak for your fellow faction members, but when you were set active you were on the server, on your character. They ordered your death for bringing heat to the faction, and cited you being arrested several times while with fellow faction members. While I do not believe this PK was unjust, good luck on your appeal.

[Goblins]

2 minutes ago, SexaphoneGod said:

Hello, I am the admin that set your character active as result of orders being written by your faction. When you join any criminal faction, you are met with this prompt:

I cannot speak for your fellow faction members, but when you were set active you were on the server, on your character. They ordered your death for bringing heat to the faction, and cited you being arrested several times while with fellow faction members. While I do not believe this PK was unjust, good luck on your appeal.

So first of all, regarding my activity on the server, there is no way I did what they claimed here, and that is another issue to look into, and I would also like to see evidence.
2. Using OOC to lure someone back to the server and PK them is illegal, this can be seen in the PK guidelines, and the exact quotes I posted above.
Also, you can also see in the evidence that there was a conversation, and suddenly it was deleted, meaning that you can clearly see that he deleted the messages.

[Akira]

Hello i am going to comment because i was the first person who took the contract to carry out this order

First of all, you were paintballing my face while i was the Supreme Don and talking shit to me. I went to the Gas Station and spoke with your HC who told me you were already being problematic and that this was not the first complaint about you. He said he would handle it. I do not think that was the only reason you were PKed but because I am close with the HC they definitely did not appreciate the way you were treating me. So do not even try to tell the admins that you could not have brought heat to the faction, because obviously you cannot shoot a paintball gun in a Don's face, yell "fuck nigga, retard" at him and then act like you did nothing wrong. You are a made member of the Kinahan Crime Family, i could have started a conflict with your family just because of what you did but they chose to handle the situation directly instead of letting it turn into a bigger conflict

Regarding Discord messages, lying to someone to get them into the city for a PK is not against the rules. What is against the rules is using Discord to find someone's location or getting into the same VC and baiting them into coming to the city so you can PK them. Simply telling someone "there is an emergency, I need your help, come to the city asap" to get them online in the city is not against the rules at all. And in the SS you provided or the situation you mentioned nobody called you to the city through Discord in a way that broke the rules. They simply told you they needed your help with an emergency, got you into the city, found your location IC and PKed you

For the last two days you have also been causing problems within the NYPD first trying to take the situation to court and then taking a plea deal and leaving. Actions were already being taken regarding your character during this process

Long story short, this order is completely valid. What you mentioned about Discord is not against the rules and there is no rule violation in the SS you provided

Good luck on your appeal!

[Goblins]

1 hour ago, Akira said:

Hello i am going to comment because i was the first person who took the contract to carry out this order

First of all, you were paintballing my face while i was the Supreme Don and talking shit to me. I went to the Gas Station and spoke with your HC who told me you were already being problematic and that this was not the first complaint about you. He said he would handle it. I do not think that was the only reason you were PKed but because I am close with the HC they definitely did not appreciate the way you were treating me. So do not even try to tell the admins that you could not have brought heat to the faction, because obviously you cannot shoot a paintball gun in a Don's face, yell "fuck nigga, retard" at him and then act like you did nothing wrong. You are a made member of the Kinahan Crime Family, i could have started a conflict with your family just because of what you did but they chose to handle the situation directly instead of letting it turn into a bigger conflict

Regarding Discord messages, lying to someone to get them into the city for a PK is not against the rules. What is against the rules is using Discord to find someone's location or getting into the same VC and baiting them into coming to the city so you can PK them. Simply telling someone "there is an emergency, I need your help, come to the city asap" to get them online in the city is not against the rules at all. And in the SS you provided or the situation you mentioned nobody called you to the city through Discord in a way that broke the rules. They simply told you they needed your help with an emergency, got you into the city, found your location IC and PKed you

For the last two days you have also been causing problems within the NYPD first trying to take the situation to court and then taking a plea deal and leaving. Actions were already being taken regarding your character during this process

Long story short, this order is completely valid. What you mentioned about Discord is not against the rules and there is no rule violation in the SS you provided

Good luck on your appeal!

You talk so much nonsense,
You never knew who I am, I never said who I am, and no one else knew who I am. Because I don't give my name to anyone.
You have no way of knowing that I am Kinahan
And you don't know what was said in the picture I sent, because he deleted the chat

[Drakarus]

You quoted 2. Using OOC terms over Mic, (Such as yelling "thats a pk, thats a pk!" After killing someone) may void the PK entirely. Remain in character at all times.

 

No clip was provided about this?

 

Cant believe they killed my godfather

Edited 11 hours ago by Drakarus
sadness

[Akira]

21 minutes ago, Goblins said:

You talk so much nonsense,

no i dont

21 minutes ago, Goblins said:

You never knew who I am, I never said who I am, and no one else knew who I am. Because I don't give my name to anyone.

Im James "Noir" McGriff AKA the lawyer who represented you, shook your hand inside the NYPD cells while Detective Mickey Wickers (also a staff) was present and your name was Christopher Kinahan.

21 minutes ago, Goblins said:

You have no way of knowing that I am Kinahan

Yes i do because somebody from your faction gave me information about you, there was also an advertisement sent by your arresting officer requesting a lawyer for your IC last name. So ICly, I was aware that you were part of the Kinahan Crime Family, that you were at the NYPD cells and that you needed a lawyer
 

21 minutes ago, Goblins said:

And you don't know what was said in the picture I sent, because he deleted the chat

I dont need to know because i already know that you were simply messaged because there was a meeting and they needed you to come to the city to protect them. Once you entered the city i know they handled everything without communicating with you through Discord so there was no rule violation, even the staff member who PKed you already confirmed that you were in the city when you were activated so there is no need to lie or try to manipulate the situation
 

Edited 11 hours ago by Akira

[Hans Hunnebun]

8 hours ago, Goblins said:

 

 

2. Using OOC terms over Mic, (Such as yelling "thats a pk, thats a pk!" After killing someone) may void the PK entirely. Remain in character at all times.

 

3. Using OOC means of communication to perform a PK will invalidate it / the evidence for a PK.

 

 

First of all, these messages show nothing other than that you're a schitzo. Also, I don't know who tf u think was yelling "THAT'S A PK". If you had a clip, you would know that I was actually just beatboxing over your body. As for the reason you were killed, like Akira said, you were causing heat to the faction by pressing akira and starting problems with him. Not only that, every time you are in the city, without fail, you are also wandering around like a retard, getting yourself arrested, and just minging around, wrecking your car into people, etc...  Good luck on the appeal though, bub

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/nn1wIoJHR8fU31BYY?invite=cr-MSxXREUsMjE1MzA0MzM2
MAN THAT'S JUST SO MUCH METAGAME

[Hans Hunnebun]

6 hours ago, Akira said:

 

I dont need to know because i already know that you were simply messaged because there was a meeting and they needed you to come to the city to protect them. Once you entered the city i know they handled everything without communicating with you through Discord so there was no rule violation, even the staff member who PKed you already confirmed that you were in the city when you were activated so there is no need to lie or try to manipulate the situation
 

I think you are mistaken. We did not set up a time to meet with him on Discord; we just found him in-game, got him on the radio, and then called him to the 712 with a fake BS meeting story. All of which was done IC.

Edited 5 hours ago by Hans Hunnebun
typo

[MorbidWizard]

HUH???

[lsxfern]

[BK13]

1 hour ago, lsxfern said:

 

[Bullets]

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