Dorianos Appeal

[money blue]

Your Character or Steam Name: rain!

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:558628467

Your Discord ID#:money.blue

Reason for ban: RDM | Fail Escalation 

Length of ban: 1w

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute

Why should you be unbanned?

This all started a day or so ago, when Popov threatened to kill one of our guys and demanded money. We decided to not meet their demands and from there it was up, they come to our property all the time talking shit but when we go to their property and cause some issues they report us. They kept antagonizing us telling us to do something so I don’t see what the issue is

Additional Information (images, videos, etc): free the goat 

Edited 1 hour ago by money blue

[baiited]

I was apart of this situation thats why im commenting.

Pilgrim in no way shape or form do I think you are a bad person, but do your job better.

Checking logs would show that we did proper escalate the situation. They were talking shit running their mouths, I started the escalation by punching the fella who was running his mouth.

His homies popped out and started shooting us, therefore this was a VERY BASIC self defense case, turned into a 7 day ban.

+ the details he mentioned above, we recently had a sitdown with them, and got nowhere.

Crazy work right here. Hopefully this gets looked at the right way, he does not deserve a ban for this.

[GI Jew The American Hebrew]

26 minutes ago, money blue said:

Your Character or Steam Name: rain!

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:558628467

Your Discord ID#:money.blue

Reason for ban: RDM | Fail Escalation 

Length of ban: 1w

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute

Why should you be unbanned?

This all started a day or so ago, when Popov threatened to kill one of our guys and demanded money. We decided to not meet their demands and from there it was up, they come to our property all the time talking shit but when we go to their property and cause some issues they report us. They kept antagonizing us telling us to do something so I don’t see what the issue is

Additional Information (images, videos, etc): free the goat 

I can corroborate, the events he described here are true, this is no way shape or form fail escalation.  

[Mickey Lunestra]

Guy who had the sit down with you, over DMs with Noah money was mentioned (this was DMs and didn’t get brought up in the actual sit down) 

when we met I just asked for this tracksuit back considering he was a enforcer who lied to us and left, after that you just started being a tard threatening us lmao

I’ve also been on quite a bit the past few days and as far as I know there’s been nobody going to your property

[money blue]

2 minutes ago, Mickey Lunestra said:

Guy who had the sit down with you, over DMs with Noah money was mentioned (this was DMs and didn’t get brought up in the actual sit down) 

when we met I just asked for this tracksuit back considering he was a enforcer who lied to us and left, after that you just started being a tard threatening us lmao

I’ve also been on quite a bit the past few days and as far as I know there’s been nobody going to your property

It was mentioned IC, you mentioned money during the sit down but changed it to  “We’ll take the company clothing” or whatever you said. 

The reason we were threatening you was because you aren’t going to demand money from us and then threaten to kill one of us lol. 

[Mickey Lunestra]

“Your guy” was an ex enforcer for popov, full Russian name. One of the guys you brought to gopnik to escalate aswell was one of our HC who left and made a new char that our enforcer left popov to join 

 

from the clip used in it you and your boys are just being a bunch of chimps 

[Mickey Lunestra]

Just now, money blue said:

It was mentioned IC, you mentioned money during the sit down but changed it to  “We’ll take the company clothing” or whatever you said. 

The reason we were threatening you was because you aren’t going to demand money from us and then threaten to kill one of us lol. 

You originally caused the entire thing from the DMs, that was OOC and I never brought it IC at the sit down. You did 

[Mickey Lunestra]

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/nkkbAFF3MsfNudHAI?invite=cr-MSxiVDksMjE4MTQ0MTMz

[Mickey Lunestra]

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/nklhOcXb7R6XY-r_p?invite=cr-MSxWZDEsMTc5MDIzNzA4

[money blue]

Sucks to suck, but he’s safe and sound under our whitelist. You know the repercussions if he were harmed 

Seems like you guys are still going on with our property aswell, lol.

 

[pilgrim]

Hello, Staff Member that banned you here.

I reviewed the clip of the incident and also got another opinion from Dutch a Seasoned Administrator regarding the situation. After reviewing the footage and discussing the incident, we both agreed that this was a clear case of RDM.

You had no valid reason to initiate the confrontation in the first place. You approached the individual at the ATM and began punching them despite them having done nothing to you. By doing this you effectively baited them into responding and escalating the situation.

You then further escalated the incident by shooting both individuals after provoking the confrontation. There was no reasonable escalation leading up to the shooting, making your killings unjustified.

Your previous history was also taken into consideration when determining the punishment. You currently have 4 previous RDM offences (even after I gave you a second chance and didn’t ban you) and 2 previous Improper Escalation offences. Given the repeated offences, your punishment was reflected based on your POs.

After reviewing the clip, consulting Dutch and taking your previous offences into consideration, I believe the punishment issued was appropriate.

[money blue]

1 minute ago, pilgrim said:

Hello, Staff Member that banned you here.

I reviewed the clip of the incident and also got another opinion from Dutch a Seasoned Administrator regarding the situation. After reviewing the footage and discussing the incident, we both agreed that this was a clear case of RDM.

You had no valid reason to initiate the confrontation in the first place. You approached the individual at the ATM and began punching them despite them having done nothing to you. By doing this you effectively baited them into responding and escalating the situation.

You then further escalated the incident by shooting both individuals after provoking the confrontation. There was no reasonable escalation leading up to the shooting, making your killings unjustified.

Your previous history was also taken into consideration when determining the punishment. You currently have 4 previous RDM offences (even after I gave you a second chance and didn’t ban you) and 2 previous Improper Escalation offences. Given the repeated offences, your punishment was reflected based on your POs.

After reviewing the clip, consulting Dutch and taking your previous offences into consideration, I believe the punishment issued was appropriate.

The reason of the confrontation in the first place was them constantly coming to our property, we returned the favor. But go off 

[Mickey Lunestra]

1 minute ago, money blue said:

The reason of the confrontation in the first place was them constantly coming to our property, we returned the favor. But go off 

Clip this then lol, I’d love to see proof of it 

[Mickey Lunestra]

18 minutes ago, money blue said:

It was mentioned IC, you mentioned money during the sit down but changed it to  “We’ll take the company clothing” or whatever you said. 

The reason we were threatening you was because you aren’t going to demand money from us and then threaten to kill one of us lol. 

Would also like to mention, the person who brought up money was your Capo Noah Roth in DMs. He asked me how much it was to buy his safety 

[Mickey Lunestra]

Just now, Mickey Lunestra said:

Would also like to mention, the person who brought up money was your Capo Noah Roth in DMs. He asked me how much it was to buy his safety 

Metagame it though idc