PK Appeal

[faust]

Name of Character:  Antonio Aristizabal

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:560958493

Your Discord ID#: @Vroqski

Date of PK: 05/03/2026

Reason for PK: Cop Shootout

Wanted to see if in the case that I was in a cop chase with the police (I was passenger). Car stops we run into the alleyway, friend of mine shoots at the cop then cops shoot back and damage me. After getting damaged is not okay for me continue shooting back if they engaged at me first? 

In the clip: I'm the second guy to die, brown pants. This is a friend's pov.
 

clip link: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mDzA1UYLFKd7SZUJh?invite=cr-MSxJQTcsNjIzODE2MTc1

 

Edited Thursday at 05:38 PM by faust

[Yoon]

Should of ran twin i tried to warn ya

[Mmmm_Cookies]

Hard to tell from your friend's POV, unfortunately, 

Normally, if a cop were to shoot at you first, you could retaliate without risk of being pked (unless they've changed it)

I'm not sure how it works since you were running with your friend, and from his POV, as soon as he shoots the cop, you have a gun out in one of the frames. 

Maybe if you were completely unarmed the entire time, but from what I can see, you had a gun out (which is a valid reason to shoot), along with firing at the police.

Regardless, good luck, man. I'd recommend downloading Medal to clip your perspective as well.  

[faust]

4 hours ago, Mmmm_Cookies said:

Hard to tell from your friend's POV, unfortunately, 

Normally, if a cop were to shoot at you first, you could retaliate without risk of being pked (unless they've changed it)

I'm not sure how it works since you were running with your friend, and from his POV, as soon as he shoots the cop, you have a gun out in one of the frames. 

Maybe if you were completely unarmed the entire time, but from what I can see, you had a gun out (which is a valid reason to shoot), along with firing at the police.

Regardless, good luck, man. I'd recommend downloading Medal to clip your perspective as well.  

Medal crashed on me that day. RIP

logs should show if I was hit first. I hadn’t pulled my gun out yet and even if I did, my back was turned to the cops when they shot me as I was running.

 

I’m not in dire need of an appeal but more so curious on what the final verdict would be in this type of situation.

 

Thanks

[Mmmm_Cookies]

9 hours ago, faust said:

Medal crashed on me that day. RIP

logs should show if I was hit first. I hadn’t pulled my gun out yet and even if I did, my back was turned to the cops when they shot me as I was running.

 

I’m not in dire need of an appeal but more so curious on what the final verdict would be in this type of situation.

 

Thanks

Logs are reliable in some situations, but who's to say you didn't just miss every shot on the cop before he hit you yk

In my experience, a clip from your POV would, unfortunately, really only be your saving grace, but to require a pk, the cop would have needed a clip that could potentially have more clarity. 

I'd try to get your hands on HIS POV as opposed to your friends, 

Best of luck. 

[Buzz]

I was in the officer involved in the shooting. You and your friends were in on it and know full well that you were all breaking the law. We were dealing with an event, and it seems that unfortunately you and the people who were PK'd weren't invovled from that bank robbery event.

We decided to chase yall because of the heighten and intense situation. It was a really bad timing.  Still, it doesnt excuse you and your friends actions. If one person starts to instigate a violent confrontation, then I understand we are going to use reasonable force. That alone lead to your PK. You chose to be in that scenario. 

There would be many other options were you could have surrender, by placing your hands up in the air. As I approached closer, you're intentions were clear that you and your friends wanted to escape being captured instead of being cornered and subdued. 

Lowkey, yall fought valiantly, and lost. 

• Deciding to shoot and kill an Officer to escape arrest is a calculated risk you take, where the penalty for failure is death.
• If an Officer shoots your faction member/friend, while it may be within server rules for you to defend them if you choose to do so and are killed you are still PK'ed. It's an in character choice and consequence you risk when deciding to engage police.

 

I will provide my point of view of this situation. It is up to UA to decide if your PK is valid. 

https://youtu.be/-PdfRYGebSc?si=ky_vtln-eHcPgcd_

 

I recommend watching the video slower like at .50 speed.

Edited yesterday at 09:44 AM by Buzz
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[Platocygnus]

oh hey! im the guy that threw stun and tear gas at you. You kinda killed 4 officers, so i dont know what you expected.

Word of advice. Dont go in a corner with no exit when any member of ESU is on.

[Ace Admiral]

Hello, 

Inspecting logs quickly revealed that you were indeed shot and damaged by the cop before opening fire. 

Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted.

Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

Edited 15 minutes ago by Ace Admiral