Pyotyr Rowynsky Char Appeal

[PolarGMC]

Name of Character: Pyotyr "Tachanka" Rowynsky

Character ID: 194156

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:541641638

Your Discord ID#: polargmc

Date of PK: 4/21/2026

Reason for PK: i presume the failed raid of a ghetto room

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: There was no proof as nobody was outside to see me pick, the only way i could be identified is via 3rd person peeking, if someone did see me pick, i would like to see that POV, as the person who we were raiding was sticking their gun through the door, and most likely was 3rd person peeking.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: 

Edited yesterday at 01:28 AM by PolarGMC
fixing grammar

[money blue]

Hello, I was directly involved with your killing & the one that killed your underboss. I was called through radio by one of my guys that there was someone trying to lockpick their room, I responded to it and found you and your underboss running (both of you were masked up & the only people around... not suspicious at all btw). After y'all pulled guns out is when shots were exchanged leading to yours and Trumader's death. The guy in the room had little to no involvement with your death as the only reason you died was because of radio comms. 

[PolarGMC]

The proof

4 minutes ago, money blue said:

Hello, I was directly involved with your killing & the one that killed your underboss. I was called through radio by one of my guys that there was someone trying to lockpick their room, I responded to it and found you and your underboss running (both of you were masked up & the only people around... not suspicious at all btw). After y'all pulled guns out is when shots were exchanged leading to yours and Trumader's death. The guy in the room had little to no involvement with your death as the only reason you died was because of radio comms. 

The evidence was purely circumstantial, and if we had not lockpicked, it would be considered RDM as we had done nothing proveable to you. It seems like you were just looking for somebody to shoot.

[money blue]

8 minutes ago, PolarGMC said:

The proof

The evidence was purely circumstantial, and if we had not lockpicked, it would be considered RDM as we had done nothing proveable to you. It seems like you were just looking for somebody to shoot.

RDM where? there was a gun straight to my face...

[PolarGMC]

2 minutes ago, money blue said:

RDM where? there was a gun straight to my face...

I am referring to the original point of contact when you chased after us. You had no proof we were the ones lockpicking, and also chased after us while your gun was out.

[vel0city]

Hello, PKing admin here!

First of all, yes, you were PKed because of a failed raid.

In the evidence provided to me, it can be seen that a member of an organization is in distress and is requesting assistance over the radio frequency, claiming that his room is being lockpicked. Once the TM arrives to the ghetto, you and your accomplice can be seen masked up, running out from another room towards the fence next to the weed NPC. The TM shouts at you and pursues you to the fence, at which point your accomplice pulls out a gun on the TM and dies. You kill the TM, and another faction member kills you.

I personally had second thoughts before going forward with the PK, but given the circumstances and after receiving a second opinion from a fellow staff member, two masked people exiting a room and fleeing only seconds after lockpicking was heard was considered considerable evidence. You being two people also matched the description of the person inside the room who said, “2 people are trying to break into my room” (it’s not hard to differentiate footsteps, especially on wood) over the radio. If this itself wasn’t concrete evidence that you were perpetrating something, your friend pulling a gun on the TM confirmed that you indeed were.

As it is stated in the Robbery Rules: “If you are killed during the robbery/raid, it will result in a PK.”

Best of luck on your character appeal.

 

[PolarGMC]

5 hours ago, vel0city said:

Hello, PKing admin here!

First of all, yes, you were PKed because of a failed raid.

In the evidence provided to me, it can be seen that a member of an organization is in distress and is requesting assistance over the radio frequency, claiming that his room is being lockpicked. Once the TM arrives to the ghetto, you and your accomplice can be seen masked up, running out from another room towards the fence next to the weed NPC. The TM shouts at you and pursues you to the fence, at which point your accomplice pulls out a gun on the TM and dies. You kill the TM, and another faction member kills you.

I personally had second thoughts before going forward with the PK, but given the circumstances and after receiving a second opinion from a fellow staff member, two masked people exiting a room and fleeing only seconds after lockpicking was heard was considered considerable evidence. You being two people also matched the description of the person inside the room who said, “2 people are trying to break into my room” (it’s not hard to differentiate footsteps, especially on wood) over the radio. If this itself wasn’t concrete evidence that you were perpetrating something, your friend pulling a gun on the TM confirmed that you indeed were.

As it is stated in the Robbery Rules: “If you are killed during the robbery/raid, it will result in a PK.”

Best of luck on your character appeal.

 

He pulled a gun on us first, this could be seen as a matching of force.

[PolarGMC]

6 minutes ago, PolarGMC said:

He pulled a gun on us first, this could be seen as a matching of force.

Also, there were 3 of us, one left to get more lockpicks.

[vel0city]

1 hour ago, PolarGMC said:

He pulled a gun on us first, this could be seen as a matching of force.

I've just rewatched the evidence, the TM's weapon remained on safety until the moment Trumader drew his firearm, which does not indicate a proportional escalation. At the time, you were 2 (appearently 3) individuals actively attempting to flee the scene of a robbery. Under these circumstances, you were considered PK-Active to members of that faction.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by vel0city

[PolarGMC]

3 hours ago, vel0city said:

I've just rewatched the evidence, the TM's weapon remained on safety until the moment Trumader drew his firearm, which does not indicate a proportional escalation. At the time, you were 2 (appearently 3) individuals actively attempting to flee the scene of a robbery. Under these circumstances, you were considered PK-Active to members of that faction.

 

Again, there was no evidence we were the ones that attempted to raid their room, and people are masked in ghettos all the time.

[Ace Admiral]

Hello! 

When it comes to lockpicking the way you can find out who is the "guilty" party is not always just by seeing them lockpick. In this case, the witness heard you lockpick, while the TM who pk'd you was not there to watch you, the PK is aided with the fact that 2 masked up guys with guns out run out of ghetto to get away. There was a 2 minute frame from you lockpicking then being killed, this is within the time frame for retaliating against raiders. This is also aided by logs, when looking at logs it says you lockpicked it. 

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.

You may not re-appeal this PK.

Edited 1 hour ago by Ace Admiral