Gennaro Monteleone Ban Appeal

[Sauerkraut]

Name of Character: Gennaro Monteleone

Character ID: 185174

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:201255454

Your Discord ID#: actualsauerkraut9103

Date of PK: 4/18/2025

Reason for PK: "plotting a coup and disrespecting highcommand"

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: First of all, never was I plotting a coup. I supported the current Don after we had a meeting to vote for a new Don. There was discussion about what to do and who we wanted as boss after Arty died. After we made The Machine (gozmouz) boss, we talked about how we're concerned about old timers coming back to kill us. 

We had a big made man sitdown discussing Luca Quacks (who reinstated himself as a captain and was calling all of these shots for the faction and spoke for the faction in commission meetings when the streetboss was there). Everything was respectful and everything. Until Luca Vintaloro pulled out a gun and threatened everyone in the room (which led him to his demise). However, there was no coup being discussed nor was there any disrespect from me to high command. I doubt they can provide any proof of this and I personally believe this was an OOC/Metagamed PK since Whitey/Upir (the UB of Bonannos) is tight with bullets. 

I had no involvement with couping discussions, I've never disrespected high command, the pk was most likely revenge from bullets which was metagamed.

I think this should seriously be looked into / investigated.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: N/A

[xDutchCat]

Hello, 

I was the one who has set you active as they provided me with the reasons "Plotting a coup and disrespecting highcommand" Since you are/were a mademan you were aware of certain things others shouldn't know and since you took part of the criminal life you accept the risk of losing your character, however I wish you the best of luck with the appeal.

[Sauerkraut]

1 minute ago, xDutchCat said:

Hello, 

I was the one who has set you active as they provided me with the reasons "Plotting a coup and disrespecting highcommand" Since you are/were a mademan you were aware of certain things others shouldn't know and since you took part of the criminal life you accept the risk of losing your character, however I wish you the best of luck with the appeal.

Did you even investigate into that? Did they have any proof of my plotting a coup or disrespecting them? I highly doubt it considering I've done neither of those things.

I had talks with other made guys. I explicitly said "No bloodshed, No couping and we don't need/want anymore deaths"

I don't wanna blame staff in this situation, but grizzly, knowing our history I know you don't like me and you know I don't like you. So I doubt you actually wanted to investigate thoroughly into this "plotting of a coup"

[Bullets]

3 minutes ago, xDutchCat said:

I was the one who has set you active as they provided me with the reasons "Plotting a coup and disrespecting highcommand" Since you are/were a mademan you were aware of certain things others shouldn't know and since you took part of the criminal life you accept the risk of losing your character, however I wish you the best of luck with the appeal.

Don't forget that you also DM'd him that he was gonna get PK'd

[Bullets]

14 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

Luca Quacks (who reinstated himself as a captain and was calling all of these shots for the faction

I dont think I've made a single call for the faction, I've been on the server a handful of times sincee my Arturo character has died, I've taken a step back from command and you've some how conjured a thought that I'm still making calls.

 

15 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

OOC/Metagamed PK since Whitey/Upir (the UB of Bonannos) is tight with bullets. 

This isn't true either, Upir was approached by somebody ingame and was told your plan, the person who informed him was in the know of your plans IC.

 

17 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

(who reinstated himself as a captain and was calling all of these shots for the faction and spoke for the faction in commission meetings when the streetboss was there)

I was "speaking at the commission meeting" BECAUSE Gozmouz crashed and I was literally repeating everything he told me to say, I have no opinion on the Streetboss comment as if he wanted to he could've spoke up to gozmouz at the time and told him he could've been the spokes person.

[xDutchCat]

6 minutes ago, Bullets said:

Don't forget that you also DM'd him that he was gonna get PK'd

What the fuck are you on about stop tweaking. 

[Bullets]

Just now, xDutchCat said:

What the fuck are you on about stop tweaking. 

His words, not mine.

[joeeey1]

1 minute ago, Bullets said:

His words, not mine.

Proof or it didn’t happen

[Upir]

Hello 

i have been approached by a made man and told me that you told him that you dont want me as high command,and you did disrespect me and machine during that sitdown.

[Sauerkraut]

9 minutes ago, Upir said:

Hello 

i have been approached by a made man and told me that you told him that you dont want me as high command,and you did disrespect me and machine during that sitdown.

So tell me. 

1. How did I disrespect you or Machine in the sitdown? I said multiple times that I wanted the sitdown to stay respectful after Mental and Bullets disturbed the sitdown. I de-escalated or at least tried to de-escalate any situation that happened. There was absolutely nothing I said in the sitdown that could have been determined as disrespect.

2. I said I didn't want you to become Don and that's why I voted The Machine rather than you. I had multiple meetings discussing; if Lefty were to get Don, if he would put you as Consig or Underboss. We all wanted to keep you in HC and there was no discussion of couping you nor removing you from high command. 

Tommy Diamond told me, and I quote, "Whitey said he's alright with Lefty becoming boss".

It's extremely obvious that this was retaliation for Luca Quacks, since (I believe) he thinks that I was the reasoning Luca Vintaloro died.

[Upir]

8 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

So tell me. 

1. How did I disrespect you or Machine in the sitdown? I said multiple times that I wanted the sitdown to stay respectful after Mental and Bullets disturbed the sitdown. I de-escalated or at least tried to de-escalate any situation that happened. There was absolutely nothing I said in the sitdown that could have been determined as disrespect.

2. I said I didn't want you to become Don and that's why I voted The Machine rather than you. I had multiple meetings discussing; if Lefty were to get Don, if he would put you as Consig or Underboss. We all wanted to keep you in HC and there was no discussion of couping you nor removing you from high command. 

Tommy Diamond told me, and I quote, "Whitey said he's alright with Lefty becoming boss".

It's extremely obvious that this was retaliation for Luca Quacks, since (I believe) he thinks that I was the reasoning Luca Vintaloro died.

it's was planned and decided to get you killed even before the luca quacks death
if UA want prove of that i will provide it

[Sauerkraut]

7 minutes ago, Upir said:

it's was planned and decided to get you killed even before the luca quacks death
if UA want prove of that i will provide it

Your story isn't matching up anymore. 

Before Luca died there was 2 or 3 meetings I had privately. 

All of them were discussing either Luca, Ralphie or old timers that would be coming back. 

There was not a single time I disrespected high command nor plotted to coup.

And to touch on your story not matching up, you said that I disrespected you and The Machine during the sitdown. Luca Vintaloro died not too long after that. If these are old orders but you state that I disrespected you both during the sit, why is the disrespect added into the pk orders? Your reasonings don't align up, you have no proof of anything I was pk'd for, nor did grizzly investigate before taking the ticket.

[Wembleybread]

Damn

 

[Upir]

28 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

Your story isn't matching up anymore. 

Before Luca died there was 2 or 3 meetings I had privately. 

All of them were discussing either Luca, Ralphie or old timers that would be coming back. 

There was not a single time I disrespected high command nor plotted to coup.

And to touch on your story not matching up, you said that I disrespected you and The Machine during the sitdown. Luca Vintaloro died not too long after that. If these are old orders but you state that I disrespected you both during the sit, why is the disrespect added into the pk orders? Your reasonings don't align up, you have no proof of anything I was pk'd for, nor did grizzly investigate before taking the ticket.

I will explain

You said that " I doubt they can provide any proof of this and I personally believe this was an OOC/Metagamed PK since Whitey/Upir (the UB of Bonannos) is tight with bullets. " ," the pk was most likely revenge from bullets which was metagamed."Bascially saying the reason that gets you pked  is  information that i gather oocly about luca quacks death, this is incorrect, it's was planned to get you get killed yesterday even before bullets death and if UA want proof i will provide it.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Upir

[Sauerkraut]

8 minutes ago, Upir said:

I will explain

You said that " I doubt they can provide any proof of this and I personally believe this was an OOC/Metagamed PK since Whitey/Upir (the UB of Bonannos) is tight with bullets. " ," the pk was most likely revenge from bullets which was metagamed."Bascially saying the reason that gets you pked  is  information that i gather oocly about luca quacks death, this is incorrect, it's was planned to get you get killed yesterday even before bullets death and if UA want proof i will provide it.

 

soooo.... The disrespect is void reasoning if you planned on killing me yesterday.

And, once again, you cannot provide any evidence that I'm trying to coup...

[Sauerkraut]

A few dm's between me and Mental after Luca Quacks dying, and him talking about me taking boss from Machine. I made it clear I had no intention to do so

[Sauerkraut]

just another small dm explaining i dont want anyone dying