Danny Silvershine Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Name of Character: Danny Silvershine -> Enzo Vitale -> Michael Cross Character ID: 186579 SteamID: STEAM_0:1:95772378 Your Discord ID#: Psykho Date of PK: 3/18/2026 Reason for PK: Undercover resurfaced to PD Why should you be unPK'd?: During a Police Department press conference, I was actively on duty. After the event, I arrested an individual for trespassing and proceeded to the front desk to assist another person. Without meaningful interaction or escalation, that individual immediately produced a firearm and killed me, resulting in a PK. The interaction appeared targeted to me, implying the individual believed I was the undercover officer they were searching for. However, there is no clear or valid in-character justification that would allow them to reasonably identify me. My character had been out of the city for an extended period (approximately 2 weeks to 1 month) and returned with a completely new identity, including a different name and appearance. I did not interact with anyone from my prior life aside from a very limited group within PD command (Chief, Deputy Chief, Sgt. Det. Juan Padilla, Captain Jamal Lee, Lt. Jim Donovan, and one recruit), and I did not disclose my previous identity beyond that circle. The individual who conducted the PK is unknown to me and, to my knowledge, had no legitimate in-character means of identifying me. Additionally, their actions showed little regard for their own life, as they either committed suicide while in custody or were killed by responding officers. If this situation involves corruption, it has not been confirmed or approved by UA. Without confirmed corruption, there is no valid basis for my identity to have been shared. When I raised concerns, Administrator Calink stated that something seemed off and that they would investigate; however, no clear justification for the PK has been provided at this time. Based on the above, this situation raises concerns of a lack of IC justification, potential metagaming, or the use of unapproved corruption. I understand this matter may still be under investigation by UA. I am willing to cooperate fully and can provide supporting VODs if needed. 1 1 1 Link to comment
Vethar Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Danny Silvershine said: Name of Character: Danny Silvershine -> Enzo Vitale -> Michael Cross Character ID: 186579 SteamID: STEAM_0:1:95772378 Your Discord ID#: Psykho Date of PK: 3/18/2026 Reason for PK: Undercover resurfaced to PD Why should you be unPK'd?: During a Police Department press conference, I was actively on duty. After the event, I arrested an individual for trespassing and proceeded to the front desk to assist another person. Without meaningful interaction or escalation, that individual immediately produced a firearm and killed me, resulting in a PK. The interaction appeared targeted to me, implying the individual believed I was the undercover officer they were searching for. However, there is no clear or valid in-character justification that would allow them to reasonably identify me. My character had been out of the city for an extended period (approximately 2 weeks to 1 month) and returned with a completely new identity, including a different name and appearance. I did not interact with anyone from my prior life aside from a very limited group within PD command (Chief, Deputy Chief, Sgt. Det. Juan Padilla, Captain Jamal Lee, Lt. Jim Donovan, and one recruit), and I did not disclose my previous identity beyond that circle. The individual who conducted the PK is unknown to me and, to my knowledge, had no legitimate in-character means of identifying me. Additionally, their actions showed little regard for their own life, as they either committed suicide while in custody or were killed by responding officers. If this situation involves corruption, it has not been confirmed or approved by UA. Without confirmed corruption, there is no valid basis for my identity to have been shared. When I raised concerns, Administrator Calink stated that something seemed off and that they would investigate; however, no clear justification for the PK has been provided at this time. Based on the above, this situation raises concerns of a lack of IC justification, potential metagaming, or the use of unapproved corruption. I understand this matter may still be under investigation by UA. I am willing to cooperate fully and can provide supporting VODs if needed. Hello I am the person who ordered your death! This action was taken following an IC investigation, which confirmed your identify before and after your name change. This investigation included prior interactions and information tied to your involvement within my faction! The IC info was brought up clearly to the staff members I spoke too. I can assure you, all proper channels were followed ICly, and there was no metagaming at play. Link to comment
Danny Silvershine Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Vethar said: Hello I am the person who ordered your death! This action was taken following an IC investigation, which confirmed your identify before and after your name change. This investigation included prior interactions and information tied to your involvement within my faction! The IC info was brought up clearly to the staff members I spoke too. I can assure you, all proper channels were followed ICly, and there was no metagaming at play. Hello! I understand that you're claiming to have IC information, but if I'm correct in this appeal you need to provide more than just a "trust me bro it was done IC." This char was maybe in City a max of 2-3 times prior and I never left the police department or talked to anyone who wasn't police. Because I can prove that there was nobody in the Altoviti faction even on the scoreboard at the time of the name change itself. My name was changed and I was placed into the PD faction as presented in this screenshot. So what evidence could possibly be obtained IC that could leak my identity? https://imgur.com/a/6lIZQBA Link to comment
Vethar Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Danny Silvershine said: Hello! I understand that you're claiming to have IC information, but if I'm correct in this appeal you need to provide more than just a "trust me bro it was done IC." This char was maybe in City a max of 2-3 times prior and I never left the police department or talked to anyone who wasn't police. Because I can prove that there was nobody in the Altoviti faction even on the scoreboard at the time of the name change itself. My name was changed and I was placed into the PD faction as presented in this screenshot. So what evidence could possibly be obtained IC that could leak my identity? https://imgur.com/a/6lIZQBA If I release any of that info to the public it will be metagamed. Again the staff I spoke to who are investigating have heard the story and have the proof we needed to order your death they will issue their judgement when they finish the investigation! Link to comment
21schmekles Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Hello admin who set you PK active here, there’s a 2 week time frame to leave a criminal faction without being noticed, in your case you failed to wait the 2 week period and left the faction whitelist ghosting them and cutting all contacts which resulted in command writing orders against you multiple reasons. Claiming you were out of the city for a month is false as if you were the orders wouldn’t be able to go through, Good Luck on your appeal. Edited 2 hours ago by 21schmekles Link to comment
Danny Silvershine Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, 21schmekles said: Hello admin who set you PK active here, there’s a 2 week time frame to leave a criminal faction without being noticed, in your case you failed to wait the 2 week period and left the faction whitelist ghosting them and cutting all contacts which resulted in command writing orders against you multiple reasons. Claiming you were out of the city for a month is false as if you were the orders wouldn’t be able to go through, Good Luck on your appeal. To clarify for the record, I have verifiable proof that I left the faction on 2/27. Based on the claimed two-week cooldown, that period would have concluded on 3/13. Realistically, the only alternative I could have taken would have been to go on a two-week LOA. However, even that would likely have triggered orders regardless. More importantly, my departure was not voluntary in its timing or manner- I acted at the direct request of command, which I was obligated to follow. I had intended to remain longer and potentially approach things differently, but that option was ultimately not available to me. Additionally, I have not found any PK or general rule that explicitly establishes this cooldown requirement, nor was it clearly communicated to me by handlers in a way that applied to my situation or timeline. I appreciate the input provided, but I believe this also overlooks the issue of identity. Without clear evidence of corruption or exposure, it is difficult to see how my identity would be known in-character, which is a critical factor in justifying the outcome. Link to comment
21schmekles Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) You left on 2/27 the orders were wrote on 3/5 only 6 days after you left which was within the 2 week period validating you being set pk active. Edited 1 hour ago by 21schmekles Link to comment
Danny Silvershine Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, 21schmekles said: You left on 2/27 the orders were wrote on 3/5 only 4 days after you left which was within the 2 week period validating you being set pk active. I acknowledge this and appreciate the information as well as you doing what you felt was right- which was setting the PK. With that said, I know you aren't ruling on this, but I simply want to respond so the record is as clear as I can make it. It must be understood I was literally on the verge of my next promotion, which- for the sake of civilian life needed to be avoided. Not only this, but I was told by handlers that for one reason or another, I would VERY likely be killed if I didn't pull out when it was requested anyways. Context to all of this matters: from command requests, to identity and everything else involved. Link to comment
DaddyD15 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago this is probably the most mature and civil debate/ discussion on a pk appeal i seen. I wish most appeals went like thsi. Link to comment
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