john "big mac" mackentash pk

[john mackentash]

Name of Character: john mackentash 

Character ID:152918

SteamID:STEAM_0:1:805572208

Your Discord ID#: vchin6969

Date of PK: 1/28/2026

Reason for PK: I was inside the warehouse at the time and was not actively participating in any criminal activity. I was standing around when another individual entered the warehouse using a business pin and initiated what was considered a robbery. I did not coordinate, assist, or engage with this individual in any way. From my perspective, I was simply present at the location and was not aware of any planned robbery or rule-breaking behavior. I believe the clip may show me being in the area but not taking part in the incident, and I’m respectfully asking for the situation to be reviewed again for context and to see if its appealable.

Edited 6 hours ago by john mackentash

[Austinn]

DENIED

[Sauerkraut]

This isn't appealable. You were being mugged, and you did not co-operate. Someone lockpicked into the warehouse you were in, saw you, wanted to mug you, and killed you even after giving you plenty of chances to surrender.

Hopefully you learn from this mistake, that your life is worth more than your items...

[AuiAnimtor]

Hello PKing Admin, 

 

Regarding the death of your character: at the time of the incident, you were being mugged at gunpoint. While under a direct threat to your life, you were given multiple opportunities to comply with the mugger’s demands.

 

Despite this, you continued to move, resisted when the mugger attempted to restrain you, and ultimately produced a firearm while still being held at gunpoint. This showed a clear disregard for your character’s life and directly escalated the situation.

 

By failing to value your life under an active lethal threat, you broke Fear RP, which directly resulted in your character’s death. For this reason, the PK.

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lW8cANhq59VMNYbGd?invite=cr-MSxwWVQsMzA1NDI3Nzc0&v=120

Edited 6 hours ago by AuiAnimtor

[krokie]

11 minutes ago, AuiAnimtor said:

 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lW8cANhq59VMNYbGd?invite=cr-MSxwWVQsMzA1NDI3Nzc0&v=120

why does the end of the clip have people talking in a vc as though they already know what happened? 

[calink]

So the TM is clearly livestreaming his pk, seemingly to a member of staff - this is hugely concerning, no?

Otherwise said member of staff is metagaming from his staff char.

[MaSteR MiND xX]

Crazy work that you can hear them meta gaming at the end of the clip, Last I checked meta gaming was a bannable offense.

[GrimReaper]

metagaming mugger

[Vancouver Guy]

Dude this is 100 % Metagame bro you can here them in the background in the clip in a VC and you can hear his push to talk and you can hear people join on his stream well he is live streaming the mug as well as a staff member in the clip as well in the VC like what lmao ?

[Sauerkraut]

Explanation here: 

This stunt was going on for a good 5 minutes before the beginning of this clip. About 2 minutes in I decided to join a call that had a staff member in it (the only staff member that was available to me during this time, which was around 4AM) and share my screen to see if it was a valid mug. I had no intention of PKing the guy, I went in to mug for items he had on his character, he didn't want to comply. He was being mugged on his own property so I wasn't completely sure if he was able to be PK'd because of it or what. I was riding solo this whole time, and only wanted confirmation from a staff member if what I was doing was allowed. Granted, it definitely wasn't the best idea to be sharing my screen at all and instead just explain to him the situation, this entire scenario seems pretty funky I'll admit that. And if it's against the rules to do what I did, then I'm willing to face punishment for my actions. All it was at the time was just me wanting confirmation from staff, that's all.

[Zeus]

2 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

Explanation here: 

This stunt was going on for a good 5 minutes before the beginning of this clip. About 2 minutes in I decided to join a call that had a staff member in it (the only staff member that was available to me during this time, which was around 4AM) and share my screen to see if it was a valid mug. I had no intention of PKing the guy, I went in to mug for items he had on his character, he didn't want to comply. He was being mugged on his own property so I wasn't completely sure if he was able to be PK'd because of it or what. I was riding solo this whole time, and only wanted confirmation from a staff member if what I was doing was allowed. Granted, it definitely wasn't the best idea to be sharing my screen at all and instead just explain to him the situation, this entire scenario seems pretty funky I'll admit that. And if it's against the rules to do what I did, then I'm willing to face punishment for my actions. All it was at the time was just me wanting confirmation from staff, that's all.

Why'd you remove the sound from the clip? 

[Sauerkraut]

Just now, Zeus said:

Why'd you remove the sound from the clip? 

To prevent this exact situation from happening. The flooded comments about Metagame. The headache as a whole.

[AuiAnimtor]

Hello PKing Admin, 

 

Regarding the death of your character: at the time of the incident, you were being mugged at gunpoint. While under a direct threat to your life, you were given multiple opportunities to comply with the mugger’s demands.

 

Despite this, you continued to move, resisted when the mugger attempted to restrain you, and ultimately produced a firearm while still being held at gunpoint. This showed a clear disregard for your character’s life and directly escalated the situation.

 

By failing to value your life under an active lethal threat, you broke Fear RP, which directly resulted in your character’s death. For this reason, the PK.

[AuiAnimtor]

I would like to note that when I initially reviewed the video, there was no audio available, and I have not viewed it again until now. After reviewing the comments, I rewatched the video and can now confirm that clear meta-gaming is present.

 

This issue will be addressed separately with the individual involved in the PKing, in accordance with server rules.

[john mackentash]

1 hour ago, AuiAnimtor said:

then is it ok if john mackentash can comeback ????

 

[Datboi260]

3 hours ago, Sauerkraut said:

To prevent this exact situation from happening. The flooded comments about Metagame. The headache as a whole.

This should absolutely get this thrown out. You tried to prevent allegations of metagame by removing audio from a PK clip? Clear metagame the situation is void. 

[MaSteR MiND xX]

Deleting the original video and chopping it down to 8 seconds is wild work. The good news is that I downloaded the original video because I know Sauerkraut was going to lie to the staff and play victim. 

The Full real video, meta game included

[Sauerkraut]

11 minutes ago, MaSteR MiND xX said:

Deleting the original video and chopping it down to 8 seconds is wild work. The good news is that I downloaded the original video because I know Sauerkraut was going to lie to the staff and play victim. 

The Full real video, meta game included

I was sharing my screen showing that I was mugging someone (and making sure it was valid by a staff member).

Nobody that was in the call was involved in the mugging. I lockpicked my way in, saw him, mugged him. If it's against the rules to simply show I was mugging someone and then getting confirmation that it's a valid mug/pk, then I'll take whatever punishment is deserved.

[calink]

13 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

I was sharing my screen showing that I was mugging someone (and making sure it was valid by a staff member).

Nobody that was in the call was involved in the mugging. I lockpicked my way in, saw him, mugged him. If it's against the rules to simply show I was mugging someone and then getting confirmation that it's a valid mug/pk, then I'll take whatever punishment is deserved.

Correction - you streamed it within your characters faction discord, to multiple faction members including a staff member who mains said faction

This is pretty serious metagame from my perspective!

[Sauerkraut]

2 minutes ago, calink said:

Correction - you streamed it within your characters faction discord, to multiple faction members including a staff member who mains said faction

This is pretty serious metagame from my perspective!

There was 3 people in the call total, me, the staff member, and a different member that wasn't related. 

Neither one of them were involved in the mug, just me.

[Billy Smlcap]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[Datboi260]

14 minutes ago, Sauerkraut said:

There was 3 people in the call total, me, the staff member, and a different member that wasn't related. 

Neither one of them were involved in the mug, just me.

"There was 3 people in the call total, me, the staff member, and a different member that wasn't related. " "Neither one of them were involved in the mug, just me."

 

You can hear someone in the discord tell Sauerkraut that he had a gun on him. If they were involved with the mugging, then it would be fine, but this is a discussion about metagaming. Them not being involved directly doesn't help anything.

 

Metagame = Using Out of Character information In-Character -- From the rules.

 

Also I have to ask, is it normal for staff to accept audioless cut down PK clips or is it just because this one is your friend?

Edited 41 minutes ago by Datboi260