Davis Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 the biggest source of non actionable meta gaming in garrysmod mafia roleplay is the tab menu (FACT). I understand the implications of removing it from non staff characters but i believe the benefits ultimately outweigh the negatives. To check on your specific org instead of the regular tab menu on the business tab of your f1 menu shows the tab menu of just your faction (PD, Crim, civ, etc). thanks for reading. 2 6 5 Link to comment
Kewl Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 discord is a pretty big source of metagame also I think we should get rid of it also nobody should have discord 4 1 2 Link to comment
Bookie Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, Kewl said: discord is a pretty big source of metagame also I think we should get rid of it also nobody should have discord so we are stealing my jokes 1 Link to comment
Kewl Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, Bookie said: so we are stealing my jokes that was my joke actually -Lieutenant Alexander Price, Division Overseer of the Bureau of Internal Affairs of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge 2 Link to comment
Bookie Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, Kewl said: that was my joke actually -Lieutenant Alexander Price, Division Overseer of the Bureau of Internal Affairs of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge Mate cut it out -Sergeant Lorenzo Gallo, Member of Special Investigations of the Detectives Bureau of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge 1 Link to comment
Kewl Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, Bookie said: Mate cut it out -Sergeant Lorenzo Gallo, Member of Special Investigations of the Detectives Bureau of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge ok sorry Sergeant Lorenzo Gallo, Member of Special Investigations of the Detectives Bureau of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge -Lieutenant Alexander Price, Division Overseer of the Bureau of Internal Affairs of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge 2 Link to comment
Davis Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 notice how the police force is fuming at this suggestion 2 Link to comment
Baker Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 12 minutes ago, Kewl said: discord is a pretty big source of metagame also I think we should get rid of it also nobody should have discord you're stupid. happy 2026 2 Link to comment
Tsum_Mini1 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 10 hours ago, Baker said: you're stupid. happy 2026 you're a retard - Corporal Jake Smith Corruption Division Agent of the Bureau of Internal Affairs of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge 2 1 1 2 Link to comment
bigwillyhumper69 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Actually a good suggestion please implement this 1 Link to comment
Kewl Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 21 hours ago, Davis said: notice how the police force is fuming at this suggestion notice how the people trying to control the narrative by maliciously interpreting incorrect emotional intent behind messages continuously conceal their affiliation??? this is how you know a suggestion was made with horrific design. Reject the propaganda, observe the truth. - Lieutenant Alexander Price, Division Overseer of the Bureau of Internal Affairs of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge Link to comment
TroubledGhost Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 im ngl i thought of suggesting something like this and i'd +1 it only if there was an appropriate solution... Out right removal? I'd disagree.. Perhaps it's as simple as removing the number "of players in that faction thats next to each factions name (except civs?). In the end.. if the concern is "once someone has your name and they can see which faction you're in" - i dont think that's too much of an issue because: 1. they cannot do anything ICly cos metagame. 2. Leads you to be more attentive and cautious with whom you give your name out to. 3. Adds to the consequences of your actions taken in the long run (friends today but enemies tomorrow or vice verca) if there's a way around it without removing it, would be more ideal. In the end people could always use the bot or console to check who is online, speculate which character they're on and make assumptions. Link to comment
handsome Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/2/2026 at 5:19 PM, Kewl said: that was my joke actually -Lieutenant Alexander Price, Division Overseer of the Bureau of Internal Affairs of the 29th Precinct of the New York Police Department of Southside of Diverge loool good joke Link to comment
handsome Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 people should not break rules just like ban everyone who does -1 Link to comment
Davis Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, TroubledGhost said: In the end.. if the concern is "once someone has your name and they can see which faction you're in" - i dont think that's too much of an issue because: It's a fundamental issue with how the game works. 7 hours ago, TroubledGhost said: 1. they cannot do anything ICly cos metagame. They can't outright act on it but if someone is wanted and they have their f3 they know which properties to look at and good luck convincing staff that's outright meta game 7 hours ago, TroubledGhost said: 2. Leads you to be more attentive and cautious with whom you give your name out to. Giving out your name shouldn't result in giving out which faction you are a part of. 7 hours ago, TroubledGhost said: 3. Adds to the consequences of your actions taken in the long run (friends today but enemies tomorrow or vice verca) This applies with or without my suggestion just without it being they know which faction you are a part of via tab menu instead of in rp. 1 Link to comment
Davis Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, handsome said: people should not break rules just like ban everyone who does -1 issue is it's next to impossible to prove or determine they are breaking meta game rules when using the tab menu IE I know this person is in the city because I checked my tab menu Link to comment
TroubledGhost Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 4 hours ago, Davis said: It's a fundamental issue with how the game works. They can't outright act on it but if someone is wanted and they have their f3 they know which properties to look at and good luck convincing staff that's outright meta game Giving out your name shouldn't result in giving out which faction you are a part of. This applies with or without my suggestion just without it being they know which faction you are a part of via tab menu instead of in rp. No, you're absolutely right - metagaming is an inherent issue that cannot really be fixed and relies on an honour system which is often abused. And by me saying "if there's a way around it without removing it" - removing faction name and number count I think would be the main thing and I agree to it; but the new tab replacement should have to be well designed but how is the question lol cos it'l just be a huge mess of like 115 players all under one tab (except cops) - but... thinking about it, playing the game with a "fog of war" type thing (no tab menu) might be interesting and more immersive. Edited January 5 by TroubledGhost Link to comment
Geo_Zeus Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Popo can't get your f3 no more big dawg don't worry, i don't see the tab menu as that big of an issue. I feel like most servers that have removed it feel inherently emptier (especially for new players, it helps them get some more info on how shit works). I know the discord argument someone else made seems dumb but it's a good analogy, just because something exists on the server and can be used to break rules it doesn't mean it should be removed. Guns can cause rdm, rackets can cause racket abuse, cars can cause VDM, police can cause RDA etc. Those sound like retarded statements but it's not about the statement, it's about the point it's trying to get across. 2 Link to comment
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