Ban Appeal

[malachite346]

Your Character or Steam Name: Darnell Brown Jr.

 

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:642511945

 

Your Discord ID#: malachite346

 

Reason for ban: Failmug / Mugging character

 

Length of ban: 2 weeks 

 

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): Dispute

 

Why should you be unbanned?: Okay so, first of all Darnell Brown Jr. is NOT a mugging character and idk where you got that impression . I didn’t  create the character specifically to mug, I created it yesterday morning and was playing on it and roleplaying all day before I met some people in prison and we decided to mug somebody when we got out. Also I don’t understand how it was a failmug, we initiated the mugging in a yellow zone, tied him up, threw him into our car & drove him to a nearby secluded area. There was nobody around when we initiated it. So please explain how it was a failmug??? The RP was there and as far as I know we broke no rules.

 

[xDutchCat]

Hello! I was the one who banned you for two weeks,

First of all, you literally just created the character (this morning for me), got a pistol and went on to mug someone in imperial which then falls under the robbery / raiding rule.  Funny thing is, you're a Bonanno Main and the first thing I see you do is mug someone in Imperial. Your main characters enemy property! And eventhough, Imperial was empty no one was in there but you and the person who you put under FearRP, you could've just dragged him in the corner somewhere but no, you dragged your blindfolded guy on the street and drove him to the ghetto to continue your mug there. I mostly punished you for the mugging character because literally you create it, somehow find 4 guns which could be lucky but raised alot of concerns, then see 3 hours of no genuine roleplay that could indicate your character could be considered legit or a valuable character in the logs and then i see you tying up the victim, I banned you for two weeks because you had two prior offenses to mugging and I think you claiming that you met someone in prison was not true on this current character I issued the punishment for, You met someone in prison on your Johnny Curry character, could be a misunderstanding with these characters.

Edited Friday at 09:20 PM by xDutchCat

[malachite346]

Alright, the only reason we took him to ghetto was because he radio' d to his faction that he was being robbed at Imperial and they were on the way. I have no idea who owns Imperial or that they were the Bonanno's enemies, so if you're implying it was targeted that's just false. I'm literally just an associate and wasn't hired too long ago, I don't know these things. I'm not really sure how to prove that I was actually RPing for those 3 hours, but do you really have any proof that I wasn't? And as far as the guns go, I literally found a shipment that was at 0 and the guys I met already had their own. I know I have past offences for fail-mugging but that doesn't really make me automatically guilty. My first ban I was pretty new to the server and some guy tried recruiting me to mug with him so I did, then proceeded to get banned because I didn't know what I was doing. After that I read over the mugging rules and tried again when I got back, but it seems that whenever somebody mugs on a character that isn't in a faction it's automatically labeled as a mugging character (which is why I was banned the second time). This time I really thought I played by every rule but here we are. 

[SolidSnakeDrive]

Hello. I am the guy you almost successfully mugged, and a proper lick is something I will never be angry about. In this game, you can't just create a character and go around mugging people and making them risk everything while you're on a character you simply do not value. A lot of us put months and even years into these characters. Another problem, you and your friends were banned by 4lights on October 7th for fail-mug. I was the same victim. It is such a striking coincidence that I just so happened to be the same victim twice in a row, while you and your buddies were saying "I knew we'd catch a Jew" by the Governor's mansion, or did you forget? Read the rules of mugging, char abuse, mugging chars, target mugging etc. Instead, you should've mugged me on your Bonnanno Main, that would've been exciting to be honest, but you won't be getting that chance anymore, I'm sure of it, as you are disgrace to their name. If you some how mug me again after this 2 week ban it is obvious target mugging. 

This isn't some DarkRP garbage server. You likely only have one chance left.

Enjoy your 2 week vacation and your early retirement in Northern Sicily. 

 

Edited Friday at 10:01 PM by SolidSnakeDrive

[xDutchCat]

Fyi you're not automatically labled as mugging char if you're not in a faction. 

12 minutes ago, malachite346 said:

Alright, the only reason we took him to ghetto was because he radio' d to his faction that he was being robbed at Imperial and they were on the way. I have no idea who owns Imperial or that they were the Bonanno's enemies, so if you're implying it was targeted that's just false. I'm literally just an associate and wasn't hired too long ago, I don't know these things. I'm not really sure how to prove that I was actually RPing for those 3 hours, but do you really have any proof that I wasn't? And as far as the guns go, I literally found a shipment that was at 0 and the guys I met already had their own. I know I have past offences for fail-mugging but that doesn't really make me automatically guilty. My first ban I was pretty new to the server and some guy tried recruiting me to mug with him so I did, then proceeded to get banned because I didn't know what I was doing. After that I read over the mugging rules and tried again when I got back, but it seems that whenever somebody mugs on a character that isn't in a faction it's automatically labeled as a mugging character (which is why I was banned the second time). This time I really thought I played by every rule but here we are. 

Fyi. No you're not automatically considered a mugging char if you're not in a faction. I scrolled through logs over an hour and with the provided evidence there was little to no roleplay to consider your character a valid roleplaying character at the time, After all the evidence and scrolling I saw you had a main character which you did not mug on and it gave me the impression you mugged on a fresh char to avoid possible pk risk.  

[malachite346]

58 minutes ago, xDutchCat said:

Fyi you're not automatically labled as mugging char if you're not in a faction. 

Fyi. No you're not automatically considered a mugging char if you're not in a faction. I scrolled through logs over an hour and with the provided evidence there was little to no roleplay to consider your character a valid roleplaying character at the time, After all the evidence and scrolling I saw you had a main character which you did not mug on and it gave me the impression you mugged on a fresh char to avoid possible pk risk.  

This is the evidence? It shows that there was 3 hours before I decided to mug someone, the entire time I was roleplaying. So please tell me because I don't see it in the rules anywhere, What's the minimum amount of hours a character needs before he's allowed to mug and its no longer considered a mugging character?

 

Also what would make my character a "valid roleplaying character"??? What exactly do I need to do?

Edited Friday at 11:01 PM by malachite346

[malachite346]

19 minutes ago, SolidSnakeDrive said:

Hello. I am the guy you almost successfully mugged, and a proper lick is something I will never be angry about. In this game, you can't just create a character and go around mugging people and making them risk everything while you're on a character you simply do not value. A lot of us put months and even years into these characters. Another problem, you and your friends were banned by 4lights on October 7th for fail-mug. I was the same victim. It is such a striking coincidence that I just so happened to be the same victim twice in a row, while you and your buddies were saying "I knew we'd catch a Jew" by the Governor's mansion, or did you forget? Read the rules of mugging, char abuse, mugging chars, target mugging etc. Instead, you should've mugged me on your Bonnanno Main, that would've been exciting to be honest, but you won't be getting that chance anymore, I'm sure of it, as you are disgrace to their name. If you some how mug me again after this 2 week ban it is obvious target mugging. 

This isn't some DarkRP garbage server. You likely only have one chance left.

Enjoy your 2 week vacation and your early retirement in Northern Sicily. 

Yeah I had no idea that you were the same person, but now that you mention it I do remember that. Only reason I said "I knew we'd catch a Jew" is because while looking for a victim we were joking about finding some Jew with deep pockets. Just a coincidence, why would I target you? I don't even know you.

[SolidSnakeDrive]

5 minutes ago, malachite346 said:

Yeah I had no idea that you were the same person, but now that you mention it I do remember that. Only reason I said "I knew we'd catch a Jew" is because while looking for a victim we were joking about finding some Jew with deep pockets. Just a coincidence, why would I target you? I don't even know you.

"why would I target you? I don't even know you."

>Only reason I said "I knew we'd catch a Jew" is because while looking for a victim we were joking about finding some Jew with deep pockets.

 

you answered your own question.

[malachite346]

23 minutes ago, SolidSnakeDrive said:

"why would I target you? I don't even know you."

>Only reason I said "I knew we'd catch a Jew" is because while looking for a victim we were joking about finding some Jew with deep pockets.

 

you answered your own question.

Like I said we were JOKING. Not like I have a vendetta against Kosher Nostra or we were specifically robbing Jews / members of your faction

[DopeAsRoe]

Even though this may have not been a target mug (Crazy "coincidence" getting the same guy back to back), you created this character 3 hours before you mugged the victim. Now this doesn't immediately prove that you're a mugging character so I dug a little deeper.

I looked into your logs and saw that you did not in fact "find those guns". You ordered them on your main character Anthony and went to the shipment when it arrived, dropped the guns, swapped characters to pick them up on Darnell. This is item transfer and racket abuse.


You made no taxi adverts, no meaningful roleplay (no going to jail doesn't count), you didn't even pull out a taxi on this character from what I can see. Expanding further on the "No meaningful roleplay" because you seemed confused to Dutch's reply. By "meaningful roleplay" we mean building up an actual character, something like buying a house and growing weed in the basement. Not just creating a character to run from police or mug/scam people.

Seeing as you lied about the guns, it makes me curious as to if you also lied about not target mugging this guy. 

You have 2 previous bans for fail mug within the past month. You should know the rules regarding mugging by now.

Edited 4 hours ago by DopeAsRoe

[DopeAsRoe]

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