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Now I know I'll get sh*t on by certain geeks that think they're some big shot behind the screen because they enjoy mocking newbs but after 4 days of playtime in this server I have some issues. Keep in mind I have over 2k game time in GMOD and most of it was spent in HellsGamers PERP back in the day and a bunch of other RPs. I'm not comparing this to that but merely stating the facts for the kids in here.

If you don't like it -rep the sh*t out of me. Couldn't care less about your e-penis power.

My first concern - Why is everything so f*cking theatrical and zero-risk?

The crybaby japs stand outside their gunstore and bait cops/civs just to get a reason to start shooting/blowing up cars. When you do something against them they instantly @ staff like a bunch of #metoo wussies.

The Italians do nothing but eat lobster.

Every single faction just wants a reason to out their own interns/associates. Oooooh you got arrested? HERE COMES THE PK TICKET for bringing heat. Oooooooh you're a criminal in a crime family and like to mug or f*ck with other criminals? You're causing too much trouble, time to go!

No faction wants to start a war with the other so they let their own get r*ped before they do something or they pay up to avoid it. Because again, zero-risk wussies. I get the realism of it but if your best guy is getting chased by a rival gang because he left them a week ago you best believe there is a war happening if they touch him in any f*cking real life scenario unless they wanna do a sit down and solve it in a different way. No raids happening either, yeah obvious reasons.

Cops? Sadly clowns with a badge running around chasing people driving recklessly and running red lights. Getting harassed constantly and rage-baited by civs and factions like the jap babies that like to blow up cars after endlessly provoking them. There is literally no FearRP when it comes to cops, if you're stopping someone and he has loads of sh*t his friend just pulls up behind you and shoots you in the head no big deal, I guess that should be punishable by staff. People can grow hella shit in their apartments and faction properties without any worries of any raid happening.

I don't even understand what the detectives/operatives do.

They should be out there putting down crime families for good, running surveillance, collecting evidence, and they should have all the power to do it heck even if they have to pay crazy sums to informants, install civ scouts, wiretapping certain areas (yeah sometimes criminals are stupid and say the wrong things outside their faction property). Oh and I guess every single faction higher up has his own detective character so why would they even bother with all of this? Honestly if you're a higher up in a faction you shouldn't be allowed to have a cop character. PERIOD. The conflict of interest is there no matter what you tell me.

Heck if one bullet is fired outside of a faction property, no matter what their intent or right is, that should be grounds for a full-on police raid. Maybe there should be a Crime Family/Gang/NARC Task Force with more investigative power, including the ability to be fully disguised as a civilian and not visible anywhere as a cop, able to join and maintain your character as a civilian in a crime family, gather intel and climb the ranks etc etc. Undercover work should be much better IMO, if you know someone has an affiliation with another gang you want to be able to follow that person and gather as much about him as possible, routines, entrys and exits. Who is he speaking to and why?

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you are genuinely schizophrenic 

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dude

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7 minutes ago, Jmoorsey said:

you are genuinely schizophrenic 

you are genuinely delusional

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Pickle sniffer, get over yourself. You’re delusional. It’s just a serious RP server. You haven’t read all the rules and wrapped your head around the social dynamics or how the RP flows. You’re egotistical and tied to your OOC personality too much for this hobby. If you can’t RP and you want to LARP and replace being a chapped tit in real life with a digital gangster avatar, go to FiveM. If you’re serious about learning the game and doing some serious RP/having fun and immersing into a fictional world/characters stick around and stop being a piece of shit. You haven’t earned the right to guard a door with your attitude and level of experience exhibited in your forum posts, nevertheless trying to be a Don. You’re delusional at this point. No wonder you’re wandering mad. Why don’t you go back to those old communities you were such a big guy in? I bet there’s reasons.

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a lot of these “points” ur making come from the view of a low level associate. PLENTY of political stuff/outer-faction issues goes on behind the scenes.

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TLDR: You guys are losers and I have 2k hours on dark RP servers. Here’s what’s wrong with the server but it’s all things that are already at the players disposal but I want cops to raid a building if there is a a gunshot outside. And I want undercovers to keep doing exactly what they do. 

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Only reason your are upset is because you haven't been accepted yet to the Luprano Crime Family 😏

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56 minutes ago, Omerta said:

Pickle sniffer, get over yourself. You’re delusional. It’s just a serious RP server. You haven’t read all the rules and wrapped your head around the social dynamics or how the RP flows. You’re egotistical and tied to your OOC personality too much for this hobby. If you can’t RP and you want to LARP and replace being a chapped tit in real life with a digital gangster avatar, go to FiveM. If you’re serious about learning the game and doing some serious RP/having fun and immersing into a fictional world/characters stick around and stop being a piece of shit. You haven’t earned the right to guard a door with your attitude and level of experience exhibited in your forum posts, nevertheless trying to be a Don. You’re delusional at this point. No wonder you’re wandering mad. Why don’t you go back to those old communities you were such a big guy in? I bet there’s reasons.

Seems like I struck a nerve with you. Probably because you're one of the geeks I was calling out. Maybe if you spent less time gatekeeping and more time reading what I actually wrote you'd realize half your rant was just repeating my points.

And don't worry about where I came from or my past communities—I mentioned them to give context, not to flex on little keyboard warriors like yourself. Honestly, judging by your triggered response, I'd say you take this hobby way too seriously. Try stepping outside for once.

You think I'm delusional? Sure, bud. Meanwhile, you're sitting here writing butthurt paragraphs trying to protect the server from any criticism. Your e-stroking will likely get you staff here so keep at it.

 

33 minutes ago, Kurt The Biggest Steppa said:

TLDR: You guys are losers and I have 2k hours on dark RP servers. Here’s what’s wrong with the server but it’s all things that are already at the players disposal but I want cops to raid a building if there is a a gunshot outside. And I want undercovers to keep doing exactly what they do. 

Cute TLDR, but you completely missed my point. My issue isn't just "wah cops should raid at any gunshot," it's about actually giving cops and detectives something meaningful to do instead of clowning around chasing traffic violations. But hey, reading comprehension is tough—I get it.

 

19 minutes ago, Bunni said:

Only reason your are upset is because you haven't been accepted yet to the Luprano Crime Family 😏

LOL

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2 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

Every single faction just wants a reason to out their own interns/associates. Oooooh you got arrested? HERE COMES THE PK TICKET for bringing heat

Hardly any faction will kill you for getting arrested a singular time. Now if you are repeatedly getting arrested then that’s a different story, leaves too many chances for you to possibly snitch. Factions are based off of manpower. Makes no logistical sense for factions to be eager to PK, only hurts them.

 

2 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

No faction wants to start a war with the other

 Makes no sense to be eager to start a war against another faction/alliances, only puts your men, rackets, properties, and other things at risk. Offering a buyout is the best option for MOST situations. now obviously this is the criminal underworld and wars do happen, but it really should be the last resort. If you read through the conflict/escalation rules you’ll get a better sense of this as i’m assuming this is coming from the point of view from someone who has never made it past associate/senior associate. plenty of political things happen behind the scenes.

 

2 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

grow hella shit in their apartments and faction properties without any worries of any raid happening.

There will ALWAYS be the worry of a raid happening. From both the faction renting the room as well as the faction who owns the property. This really just boils down to how secure the faction is and the effort the police put in.

2 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

I don't even understand what the detectives/operatives do.

Funnily enough in recent times (the last few months) detectives and officers have been going undercover more frequently than any time before. There has been numerous instances of officers getting PKd due to being undercover in a faction, both while they were still in said faction or after they pulled out.

 

Overall there is just so much that happens behind the scenes that you simply haven’t had the chance to see yet for yourself either from your low playtime or the fact you haven’t really worked your way up in a family just yet.

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You bring up some genuinely good points

However

Seek psychiatric help and get off this server for your own good. It isn't worth it

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4 hours ago, Reaper said:

You bring up some genuinely good points

However

Seek psychiatric help and get off this server for your own good. It isn't worth it

I'm fine don't worry. It's a really good server but it can be even better without too much effort that's all.

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This view is slightly dumb. I could make something that would be serious about the issues of this server as someone who’s played it since it first came out to almost 5 years since the release. 
 

server is practically night and day.. and a lot of it comes down to the people, and not the actual developers and UA.

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Man really hates the japs 😂

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brand new to the server, makes a really bad faction application, makes some crazy weird and disliked suggestions, then asks some of the stupidest questions and all the sudden you're the all knowing eye or some shit? like bro take a step back from the game lmfao

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39 minutes ago, anzati1 said:

brand new to the server, makes a really bad faction application, makes some crazy weird and disliked suggestions, then asks some of the stupidest questions and all the sudden you're the all knowing eye or some shit? like bro take a step back from the game lmfao

Brand new to the server? Sure, congrats genius, you can read my join date.
Bad faction app? Sure but your opinion doesn't matter.
"Crazy weird and disliked suggestions"—by who exactly? You and your circlejerk buddies that shit on just about anything here. "hey guys look at this tool (insert thread link here)"
"Stupidest questions"—Imagine thinking it's a stupid question to ask about the server location when ping is high. Yeah, genius, I know it's Garry's Mod and it's old, but guess what? Location, routing, hosting providers, outdated addons, poorly optimized maps, engines and scripts all matter too—not just your brilliant analysis of 'cars make lag.' If that's your expert answer, maybe sit this one out.

If anyone needs to take a step back from the game, it's you, Mr. "Honorary." You've clearly spent too much time here. Go touch grass.

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8 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

Every single faction just wants a reason to out their own interns/associates. Oooooh you got arrested? HERE COMES THE PK TICKET for bringing heat. Oooooooh you're a criminal in a crime family and like to mug or f*ck with other criminals? You're causing too much trouble, time to go!

I cant be bothered to reply to all your yap so ill just do this one. Criminals and crime families are not the same. When your just a criminal you bring no risk to anyone else and you commit crimes while only considering the money your going to gain. Crime families are organisations that thrive on not being raped by the police. Crime families commit ORGANIZED CRIME, where it is approved by the heads of the family and is with a direct intent of bettering the family. Also new associates or recruits don't know who works where so the rule of not mugging or fucking with other people is to prevent them from mugging or causing trouble with another faction/family.

(Also there is server rules in place that prevent you from being PK'd from a faction for any minor arrests etc)

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8 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

 

Every single faction just wants a reason to out their own. Oooooooh you're a criminal in a crime family and like to mug or f*ck with other criminals? You're causing too much trouble, time to go

yea you're right people shouldnt be pked for mugging & breaking family rules

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You have 4 days of playtime, why would you think you have the whole grasp of the servers rules and RP? Wars are hard to get into because it’s basically HvH the whole time, and you commented on the detectives not doing stuff when they literally go undercover in factions all the time.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

Brand new to the server? Sure, congrats genius, you can read my join date.
Bad faction app? Sure but your opinion doesn't matter.
"Crazy weird and disliked suggestions"—by who exactly? You and your circlejerk buddies that shit on just about anything here. "hey guys look at this tool (insert thread link here)"
"Stupidest questions"—Imagine thinking it's a stupid question to ask about the server location when ping is high. Yeah, genius, I know it's Garry's Mod and it's old, but guess what? Location, routing, hosting providers, outdated addons, poorly optimized maps, engines and scripts all matter too—not just your brilliant analysis of 'cars make lag.' If that's your expert answer, maybe sit this one out.

If anyone needs to take a step back from the game, it's you, Mr. "Honorary." You've clearly spent too much time here. Go touch grass.

you're full of yourself lmfao, you literally know nothing.

11 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

I don't even understand what the detectives/operatives do.

if you actually played the server or knew the community, you'd also know i dont play the server, the faction i run is fully automated other than once every 2 weeks i need to get on to pay taxes (oh, btw since you're new, theres taxes for factions dipshit)

get a bigger grasp on what is what and then come back and re-think your dogshit ideas. you're nobody trying to act like you're a big hotshot who knows every little aspect of the server, but literally in your own words, you don't know what detectives or operatives do 😭, you have multiple lives for a reason, go join the pd and put a stop to crime like you said. (mafia crime based server by the way)

 

oh also just to shit on you more, i do touch grass, im in college you really think i spend my days sitting on gmod grinding bricks for the don? ayt u do u pimp but don't hate on me

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11 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

Now I know I'll get sh*t on by certain geeks that think they're some big shot behind the screen because they enjoy mocking newbs but after 4 days of playtime in this server I have some issues. Keep in mind I have over 2k game time in GMOD and most of it was spent in HellsGamers PERP back in the day and a bunch of other RPs. I'm not comparing this to that but merely stating the facts for the kids in here.

If you don't like it -rep the sh*t out of me. Couldn't care less about your e-penis power.

My first concern - Why is everything so f*cking theatrical and zero-risk?

The crybaby japs stand outside their gunstore and bait cops/civs just to get a reason to start shooting/blowing up cars. When you do something against them they instantly @ staff like a bunch of #metoo wussies.

The Italians do nothing but eat lobster.

Every single faction just wants a reason to out their own interns/associates. Oooooh you got arrested? HERE COMES THE PK TICKET for bringing heat. Oooooooh you're a criminal in a crime family and like to mug or f*ck with other criminals? You're causing too much trouble, time to go!

No faction wants to start a war with the other so they let their own get r*ped before they do something or they pay up to avoid it. Because again, zero-risk wussies. I get the realism of it but if your best guy is getting chased by a rival gang because he left them a week ago you best believe there is a war happening if they touch him in any f*cking real life scenario unless they wanna do a sit down and solve it in a different way. No raids happening either, yeah obvious reasons.

Cops? Sadly clowns with a badge running around chasing people driving recklessly and running red lights. Getting harassed constantly and rage-baited by civs and factions like the jap babies that like to blow up cars after endlessly provoking them. There is literally no FearRP when it comes to cops, if you're stopping someone and he has loads of sh*t his friend just pulls up behind you and shoots you in the head no big deal, I guess that should be punishable by staff. People can grow hella shit in their apartments and faction properties without any worries of any raid happening.

I don't even understand what the detectives/operatives do.

They should be out there putting down crime families for good, running surveillance, collecting evidence, and they should have all the power to do it heck even if they have to pay crazy sums to informants, install civ scouts, wiretapping certain areas (yeah sometimes criminals are stupid and say the wrong things outside their faction property). Oh and I guess every single faction higher up has his own detective character so why would they even bother with all of this? Honestly if you're a higher up in a faction you shouldn't be allowed to have a cop character. PERIOD. The conflict of interest is there no matter what you tell me.

Heck if one bullet is fired outside of a faction property, no matter what their intent or right is, that should be grounds for a full-on police raid. Maybe there should be a Crime Family/Gang/NARC Task Force with more investigative power, including the ability to be fully disguised as a civilian and not visible anywhere as a cop, able to join and maintain your character as a civilian in a crime family, gather intel and climb the ranks etc etc. Undercover work should be much better IMO, if you know someone has an affiliation with another gang you want to be able to follow that person and gather as much about him as possible, routines, entrys and exits. Who is he speaking to and why?

End of rant, also no TLDR.

 

 

alrighty, how do you suggest these issues are rectified? 

 

This is quite clearly a rant, and perhaps understandable from a newbies perspective - but rants would go into general discussion considering nothing much is being suggested here:

 

HOW to stop whatever madness?

HOW to make diverge better?

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#JapLivesMatter

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12 hours ago, Dr. Hax said:

Now I know I'll get sh*t on by certain geeks that think they're some big shot behind the screen because they enjoy mocking newbs but after 4 days of playtime in this server I have some issues. Keep in mind I have over 2k game time in GMOD and most of it was spent in HellsGamers PERP back in the day and a bunch of other RPs. I'm not comparing this to that but merely stating the facts for the kids in here.

If you don't like it -rep the sh*t out of me. Couldn't care less about your e-penis power.

My first concern - Why is everything so f*cking theatrical and zero-risk?

The crybaby japs stand outside their gunstore and bait cops/civs just to get a reason to start shooting/blowing up cars. When you do something against them they instantly @ staff like a bunch of #metoo wussies.

The Italians do nothing but eat lobster.

Every single faction just wants a reason to out their own interns/associates. Oooooh you got arrested? HERE COMES THE PK TICKET for bringing heat. Oooooooh you're a criminal in a crime family and like to mug or f*ck with other criminals? You're causing too much trouble, time to go!

No faction wants to start a war with the other so they let their own get r*ped before they do something or they pay up to avoid it. Because again, zero-risk wussies. I get the realism of it but if your best guy is getting chased by a rival gang because he left them a week ago you best believe there is a war happening if they touch him in any f*cking real life scenario unless they wanna do a sit down and solve it in a different way. No raids happening either, yeah obvious reasons.

Cops? Sadly clowns with a badge running around chasing people driving recklessly and running red lights. Getting harassed constantly and rage-baited by civs and factions like the jap babies that like to blow up cars after endlessly provoking them. There is literally no FearRP when it comes to cops, if you're stopping someone and he has loads of sh*t his friend just pulls up behind you and shoots you in the head no big deal, I guess that should be punishable by staff. People can grow hella shit in their apartments and faction properties without any worries of any raid happening.

I don't even understand what the detectives/operatives do.

They should be out there putting down crime families for good, running surveillance, collecting evidence, and they should have all the power to do it heck even if they have to pay crazy sums to informants, install civ scouts, wiretapping certain areas (yeah sometimes criminals are stupid and say the wrong things outside their faction property). Oh and I guess every single faction higher up has his own detective character so why would they even bother with all of this? Honestly if you're a higher up in a faction you shouldn't be allowed to have a cop character. PERIOD. The conflict of interest is there no matter what you tell me.

Heck if one bullet is fired outside of a faction property, no matter what their intent or right is, that should be grounds for a full-on police raid. Maybe there should be a Crime Family/Gang/NARC Task Force with more investigative power, including the ability to be fully disguised as a civilian and not visible anywhere as a cop, able to join and maintain your character as a civilian in a crime family, gather intel and climb the ranks etc etc. Undercover work should be much better IMO, if you know someone has an affiliation with another gang you want to be able to follow that person and gather as much about him as possible, routines, entrys and exits. Who is he speaking to and why?

End of rant, also no TLDR.

 

 

I'll just cover the detective/operative stuff.
Detectives are always running surveillance, recording basically every move of any faction they are investigating but since RICO Act & Racketeering were removed/aren't recognized law within the city it takes 10x as long to finally put a faction down.
Operatives are the SWAT of the server but if they responded to every shots fired call they would be conducting 500 raids a day and the NYPD would be getting sued every day because every faction goes from "you cant enter my property even though I shot some nigga on my front door step" then goes to court just to waste the DA's time even though they are completely in the wrong.

 

All imma say is just remember its a game.

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On 3/31/2025 at 5:56 AM, Dr. Hax said:

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I don't even understand what the detectives/operatives do.

They should be out there putting down crime families for good, running surveillance, collecting evidence, and they should have all the power to do it heck even if they have to pay crazy sums to informants, install civ scouts, wiretapping certain areas (yeah sometimes criminals are stupid and say the wrong things outside their faction property). Oh and I guess every single faction higher up has his own detective character so why would they even bother with all of this? Honestly if you're a higher up in a faction you shouldn't be allowed to have a cop character. PERIOD. The conflict of interest is there no matter what you tell me.

Heck if one bullet is fired outside of a faction property, no matter what their intent or right is, that should be grounds for a full-on police raid. Maybe there should be a Crime Family/Gang/NARC Task Force with more investigative power, including the ability to be fully disguised as a civilian and not visible anywhere as a cop, able to join and maintain your character as a civilian in a crime family, gather intel and climb the ranks etc etc. Undercover work should be much better IMO, if you know someone has an affiliation with another gang you want to be able to follow that person and gather as much about him as possible, routines, entrys and exits. Who is he speaking to and why?

End of rant, also no TLDR.

 

You clearly haven't seen the rumors about Maggy Finch single-handedly infiltrating the Bonannos and becoming a capo, using a voice changer and even undergoing a sex change approved by Hamir. Since you're new here, you might not fully understand how things work.

Roleplay on this server takes time, things don’t happen overnight. Instead of jumping to conclusions, why not play for a week and get a better grasp of how the system operates before ranting about it?

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