Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) Rules: You may only make one appeal per PK, if you are denied you will be unable to appeal for that character again. You must appeal within one week of your character being PK'd, appeals posted after this time will be automatically denied. You may only comment on an appeal if you were DIRECTLY involved with the situation leading up to the PK. Replies that are not relevant to the situation will result in a forum warning and/or ban. You must follow the provided template for the appeal, failure to do so will result in an instant denial. Name of Character: Ranticus Dracul SteamID: 76561198172421441 Your Discord ID#: LimpDickStalker Date of PK: 2/28/25 Reason for PK: Metagame Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: These individuals of the Basarabs conspired in private messages to confirm a man was dead; with the dead man, and resulted in me being set PK active when the individuals who set this character for PK had no IC knowledge of this mans death or the reason IC for his death. The man was murdered, then he ran and immediately cried in the dons dms about dying which caused him to request an appeal to see the reason, which then lead to them obtaining information OOCly about an IC event that had happened. Here are some photos for their OOC conversations which lead to IC rp events. Please note the last messages where wacht claims to know that jmoorsey PKd Mike, when mike just hot murdered in character. Wacht then demotes character for said event, and then sets pk active, resulting in character death from information gained from a dead man in a private ooc dm. You also see where he asks me ooc to meet him IC. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: Edited March 1 by Togna Bologna Additional info Link to comment
handsome Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) mike is chilling at home you leave him meet with me i come back to get my oil go inside and ur best friend who hates mikey is in our boathouse, door is unlocked and hes telling me I need to leave, mikey is now nowhere to be found, if it wasnt for your very vocal saying you want to kill mike if it werent for don/you guys always beefing Edited March 1 by handsome Link to comment
Jmoorsey Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 minutes ago, handsome said: mike is chilling at home you leave him meet with me i come back to get my oil go inside and ur best friend who hates mikey is in our boathouse, door is unlocked and hes telling me I need to leave, mikey is now nowhere to be found, if it wasnt for your very vocal saying you want to kill mike if it werent for don/you guys always beefing this literally makes no sense Link to comment
handsome Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jmoorsey said: this literally makes no sense I come to the boat house, i see you there a person who hates mike who is draculs best friend he also hates mike, you tell us you need to leave you have gloves on i leave, mike never shows up, again A few days before this you kept asking me to meet with mike asking me yo where is mike i need to have a meeting with mike, i told you im mikes boss what do u need to meet him for and u kept saying i need to meet him Edited March 1 by handsome Link to comment
Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 8 minutes ago, handsome said: mike is chilling at home you leave him meet with me i come back to get my oil go inside and ur best friend who hates mikey is in our boathouse, door is unlocked and hes telling me I need to leave, mikey is now nowhere to be found, if it wasnt for your very vocal saying you want to kill mike if it werent for don/you guys always beefing Imagine making a dumbass claim like that in public. Whats that even mean? You ran into an empty building w a guy in there who told you what to do and you listened? Is that what youre telling us? Link to comment
handsome Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Togna Bologna said: Imagine making a dumbass claim like that in public. Whats that even mean? You ran into an empty building w a guy in there who told you what to do and you listened? Is that what youre telling us? I came into my own property when a guy who has black gloves on tells me i need to leave, i have no gun i cant order him to leave so i leave, mike wasnt heard from right after this, there is no other reason mike would be dead i know he didnt get mugged cause he just got a gun before that so it wasnt a random raid/mugging death. the same guy who kept pestering me to have a meeting with mike Edited March 1 by handsome Link to comment
Franzzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Hello, Im the one who gave the Orders. Sorry but I've already made up my mind on getting rid of you, at those chats it was just giving you pressure to confess OOC so I'd have a clear conscience for ending a long friendship. I dont think nobody would be dumb enough to face directly someone who they suspect in DM's on the potential of scaring them away? If it was really built upon metagaming I wouldn't even add you to any of the groups in the first place and discuss it between eachother. 1-) You have started interior drama as a High Command with a Low Command for no apparent reason even tho rules you have agreed to uphold have stated clearly not to. 2-) You have rented the property to some people you know OOC but not IC, for 10.000 $ to have a Scat Party in it which turned out to be a PK as you yourself have told me in DM's which the Deadman missed out on thus bringing potential heat and diminishing our honor. 3-) You are which everyone in the faction can report, never acted as a leader neither uphold your duties as Security Chief other than crafting CZ-75s. 4-) Even though you have been warned strictly on the 2nd reason even though you have been told before that not even associates will be allowed on their own at the property, you bring more people in for a movie night with your own message to me which then ends up with a shootout at the property. 5-) As rules everyone told when entering into our faction: Our factions members outweighs anyone outside of our faction; No friendships outside of Romanians is the rule for all the Romanian members yet you constantly associate and openly admit you are friends with people thats not in our circle neither our business partners. Which then you also rent out my property without even lease putting me at danger knowingly or not knowingly which is hilarious that you expected to survive long after pulling that. How did we learn? You are openly known and voiced your beef with Mike to me, and after you missing the meeting which cause it to be postponed next day you are known to be alone with Mike on the Boathouse then suddenly he disappears magically and a Italian man you hang around often with gloves makes my unarmed members leave only to never be able to reach Mike again. Mike's PK Mike has never been ordered something by you thats not been done, neither have he shot close business partners other than your friend who you claim to came as an admin but then stayed to watch the movie. He has uphold my word of law to not let people in the Boathouse and in which you fail to prevent happening and somehow you get a PK on him for "Not Listening HC orders and Shooting Close Business Partners". I dont know if Close Business Partners count as your friend from a diff faction. Also you weren't on the server and everyone uses pager to call eachother out ingame shouldnt be too obvious? Eyewitness Scat Party Movie In here you claim Jmoorsey came to remove a light and stayed to watch the movie however in the Medal clip he just guns down Mike? https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jKFfod6h9CRv1MSM2?invite=cr-MSxuNXIsMzQ4MTA5MDE2LA Many more things can be said but I think this answers all for now. 1 Link to comment
Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, handsome said: I came into my own property when a guy who has black gloves on tells me i need to leave, i have no gun i cant order him to leave so i leave, mike wasnt heard from right after this, there is no other reason mike would be dead i know he didnt get mugged cause he just got a gun before that so it wasnt a random raid/mugging death. the same guy who kept pestering me to have a meeting with mike Perfect, so you admit you have no proof mike was dead but you assumed. Appreciate the clarification. Link to comment
handsome Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Togna Bologna said: Perfect, so you admit you have no proof mike was dead but you assumed. Appreciate the clarification. There is no reason for mike to suddenly disappear besides that, hes not on vacation in poland i just talked to hin Edited March 1 by handsome im a retard Link to comment
Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, handsome said: I came into my own property when a guy who has black gloves on tells me i need to leave, i have no gun i cant order him to leave so i leave, mike wasnt heard from right after this, there is no other reason mike would be dead i know he didnt get mugged cause he just got a gun before that so it wasnt a random raid/mugging death. the same guy who kept pestering me to have a meeting with mike Perfect, so you admit you have no proof IC mike was dead but you assumed because you saw some man holding a gun? Very bold claim hahahaha, Appreciate the clarification. Link to comment
handsome Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Togna Bologna said: Perfect, so you admit you have no proof IC mike was dead but you assumed because you saw some man holding a gun? Very bold claim hahahaha, Appreciate the clarification. mike has the gun im saying thers no way he got mugged after just getting a mac 11 i never said whatever your saying, the only reason i can think of mike being nowhere to be found was that guy in the boat house telling us to leave, unless mike while waiting for you to give him ammo suddenly just decides to go back to czech republic, he also isnt arrested cause there is no cc Edited March 1 by handsome Link to comment
Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 39 minutes ago, handsome said: There is no reason for mike to suddenly disappear besides that, hes not on vacation in poland i just talked to hin 37 minutes ago, handsome said: mike has the gun im saying thers no way he got mugged after just getting a mac 11 i never said whatever your saying, the only reason i can think of mike being nowhere to be found was that guy in the boat house telling us to leave, unless mike while waiting for you to give him ammo suddenly just decides to go back to czech republic This is no proof of anything this is your hearsay and scrambling to avoid your and your lil rag tag groups metagame as thats the literal only way such an inactive faction would survive. The point being in the time stamp when wacht approached me OOCly w mikes death directly after his death means that an individual IC went and told this OOC individual who had not even been online in weeks but to hop in After hearing ooc someone got hit. Very clear, not hard to understand. Youre scrambling for a bullshit excise which isnt plausible as you have no actual proof of anything of your claims. We have legitimate proof of conversation regarding the death as well as the clip that was shared from the death from the eyes of the dead man which was sent ooc to another individual which lead to IC roleplay events. If its too advanced to get through that thick skull just go back to peeling potatos. Here is a screenshot of a clip sent to me minutes after this man was killed, when. Nobody was around the event to have knowledge, which was sent to me by a third party in which the video was shared, oocly. Which was also sent to me oocly which lead to ICly events. W details and everything on a dead mans death. How exactly did this man get details on a mans death when he wasnt even logging in on his character in the city? Since you have so many explanations, lets hear what you have for this one. Here is the link in reference, sent directly from a dead mans eyes from death to an ooc don to an ooc underboss in private dms, not on IC company pager (even then the dead mans final 15minutes are inadmissible for your readons) https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jMyUtLyMfh158KbM0?invite=cr-MSxUdHAsMzQ4MTA5MDE2LA how much of this is also not metad in your twisted perspective? Link to comment
Franzzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 36 minutes ago, Togna Bologna said: This is no proof of anything this is your hearsay and scrambling to avoid your and your lil rag tag groups metagame as thats the literal only way such an inactive faction would survive. The point being in the time stamp when wacht approached me OOCly w mikes death directly after his death means that an individual IC went and told this OOC individual who had not even been online in weeks but to hop in After hearing ooc someone got hit. Very clear, not hard to understand. Youre scrambling for a bullshit excise which isnt plausible as you have no actual proof of anything of your claims. We have legitimate proof of conversation regarding the death as well as the clip that was shared from the death from the eyes of the dead man which was sent ooc to another individual which lead to IC roleplay events. If its too advanced to get through that thick skull just go back to peeling potatos. Here is a screenshot of a clip sent to me minutes after this man was killed, when. Nobody was around the event to have knowledge, which was sent to me by a third party in which the video was shared, oocly. Which was also sent to me oocly which lead to ICly events. W details and everything on a dead mans death. How exactly did this man get details on a mans death when he wasnt even logging in on his character in the city? Since you have so many explanations, lets hear what you have for this one. Here is the link in reference, sent directly from a dead mans eyes from death to an ooc don to an ooc underboss in private dms, not on IC company pager (even then the dead mans final 15minutes are inadmissible for your readons) https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jMyUtLyMfh158KbM0?invite=cr-MSxUdHAsMzQ4MTA5MDE2LA how much of this is also not metad in your twisted perspective? In here as I explained In my long paragraph of explanation which you didnt read, Im trynna get you to confess OOC to clear my conscience about getting you removed. As you can see Its just acting dumb while thinking out loud to corner you into slipping up so I dont feel bad about a guy I have built the faction with stabbing me in the back. You also been noted that you have been asking where Mike is nonstop until Mike disappear, demanding you want to have a meeting with him. When we know Mike is in the boathouse waiting for us and suddenly he disappears after being alone with you in the Boathouse and a dangerous man being there is enough clue to anyone. However Mike's death isnt the only reason you were PK'd for you already had lots of stuff stacked against you, Its been already discussed you are a traitor and suddenly the guy you were alone with disappears yeah no, nobody is gonna take chances afterwards. Link to comment
handsome Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 6 hours ago, Togna Bologna said: This is no proof of anything this is your hearsay are you saying i didnt see him in the house and he didnt tell me to leave after i got my oil and went inside or what 6 hours ago, Togna Bologna said: nything of your claims. Are you saying you and mike were not always beefing? 6 hours ago, Togna Bologna said: If its too advanced to get through that thick skull just go back to peeling potatos. Sticks and stones You only could dream of peeling a potato 1/10 of the speed i could LOL Edited March 1 by handsome Link to comment
Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, Franzzy said: In here as I explained In my long paragraph of explanation which you didnt read, Im trynna get you to confess OOC to clear my conscience about getting you removed. As you can see Its just acting dumb while thinking out loud to corner you into slipping up so I dont feel bad about a guy I have built the faction with stabbing me in the back. You also been noted that you have been asking where Mike is nonstop until Mike disappear, demanding you want to have a meeting with him. When we know Mike is in the boathouse waiting for us and suddenly he disappears after being alone with you in the Boathouse and a dangerous man being there is enough clue to anyone. However Mike's death isnt the only reason you were PK'd for you already had lots of stuff stacked against you, Its been already discussed you are a traitor and suddenly the guy you were alone with disappears yeah no, nobody is gonna take chances afterwards. I dont have to confess a thing to anyone so word doesnt slip what happens, though yall wanted to press and press his death and found out i in fact did do my job by removing the disrespectful crew leader who btw only recruited a single guy in two full months for his own crew. Im not gonna hold the guys hand im gonna make room for a better replacement. You insist on keeping an incompetent individual in power amd i simply did what any enforver would to to anyone who blatantly disrespected their don in character MULTIPLE TIMES. Do i gotta spell it out? On mike, i never asked where mike was because mike obv was ducking for the last week. And YOU were the ine suggesting via your groupchat we meet in person to settle things and clear the air, not me; so lets not twist the story. I dont need to ask where he is when i see him standing by the vendor and hanging in boatbouse IC to give IC information on where a guy is always seen hanging out. Simple espionage my guy. You were not in city, in character, you knew of nothing. Nice try though. You bitch when youre disrespected by your own member, i say let me tale care of him, you ADMIT YOU GAVE HIM BENIFIT because he was new, then you get mad at me for not afting on it, then i act on it, and im a snake traitor? Very bold claim indeed. P.S ty for admission into the scenario knowing you were in part of this. Really helps the case. 5 hours ago, handsome said: are you saying i didnt see him in the house and he didnt tell me to leave after i got my oil and went inside or what Are you saying you and mike were not always beefing? Im saying that seeing him alive doesnt mean that he was murdered because you didnt see him later, alligator . ive always had an issue w mike when he blatantly disrespects the don in character as well as YOU and the other crew leader before we lost him. On TOP of that he got a single recruit in TWO FULL MONTHS even when offered cash and firearms license upgrades per quote/recruit for HIS OWN CREW, and is told to collect X amount of this, and doesnt collect a single one as a direct order, then hes obviously got better things to do and as a faction w inactive leaders its not a great look. Making room for active members where possible is in the best interest of the company when its as inactive as you have clearly seen. Link to comment
Franzzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 You have been told and you also said yourself you are gonna prepare him yet you never really did anything? He had to figure everything out on his own even though the task of making him a functioning crew leader was your job? When he first disrespected a high ranking member without even knowing hes above him, you offered to hit his mouth with baseball bat, I told you to warn him not to have that type of attitude and warn him. However you have not done that which I had to personally go out of my way and dm him and show him the ropes meanwhile managing the faction while you were just hanging around just randomly walking and making money for yourself only. Also you constantly saying I wasnt active is funny, are you gonna complain I didnt also pay 25k kickup and havent recruited anyone next? I dont think I need to explain anything further as you're just gonna cry like a woman on period as always because you couldn't turn the boathouse into a Theater for a night which exists in the current map, which you PK a member for it clearly because he was doing his job. This attempt is just too pathetic Also in your logic he never talked with disrespect in-character instead on pager at announcements channel where he reply to my ping for frequency change... Or him insulting someone over discord because the other person thought he logged off inside another factions property which seems more metagame on your side than our side in this case. You also get confirmations on dm's like setting inactive people active or plans for the faction lol Link to comment
Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 Youre beating around the bush hes a crew leader not up to the task. End if story. I did you a favor, you dont have to thank me. I didnt pk anyone for a movie wym? Was the reason not clear enough or do i gotta spell it out for ya in turkish? The rules clearly state unless otherwise stated all channels in server are considered IC, get right goofy. How is him logging off jnside someone elses property after being specifically told not to metagame on my end? Weird reach but okay. Keepe yappin the proof is in the pudding bbg. I notice they keep bringing up everything besides the point of the ticket. Seems like a therapy sesh imo Link to comment
Franzzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) Your PK reasonings has been explained in a long paragraph, and the logical argument of a person you have beef with disappearing when you were with him on the boathouse just for your friend to be at the place which isnt involved with the faction in any way to threaten people to leave with gloves on is enough reason for any organisation to assume worst of it when the guy sitting there suddenly disappears and loses contact in every way for the whole day. Rest is just answering to your being loud to be right, you were a big problem in the faction and you were expected to be removed. If we're gonna speak about incompetence you never took up to the task or upheld the duties I have told you many times to make sure members are making money for the faction, security of the boathouse, actually acting as a Underboss rather than a foot soldier hanging around on his own until he has to be instructed by even how to breathe. You just worked for yourself I had to be on every night to do your work as the Boss of family so I dont think you have the say on competence. You pk'd Mike for "Shooting at Close Business Partners" which you mentioned to me that the person shoot him was an admin removing the light in Boathouse which you turned into Public Theater, then he sat down and watch the movie which smells failrp that he came as an admin and stayed there ontop of that shot Mike just because he was making him leave. And you are claiming metagame because some stuff have been discussed through dm's yet you recieve information from dm's and come to the place because of the "ooc information" as you claim even though you weren't getting on purpose and constantly delaying like as the meeting that was gonna be held because of your stunt with public movie night. And many more infractions can show that you discuss stuff through dm's and do them ingame which I dont think matches up with what you are claiming right here. You have stepped out of line many times, failed to do your work, created drama, compromised safety of the boathouse and members many many times, and primary suspect of a member who vanished without a trace even though he was praised by the whole faction and didnt have anything to be scared of at the moment. I will refrain from feeding you any longer as all the reasons are sufficient enough, too bad you couldnt crash out on your own and salty because of that but you are finally out of the game which you wanted to leave anyways. Edited March 1 by Franzzy Had to explain Mike part as it was written in semi-rush 1 Link to comment
Togna Bologna Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Franzzy said: Your PK reasonings has been explained in a long paragraph, and the logical argument of a person you have beef with disappearing when you were with him on the boathouse just for your friend to be at the place which isnt involved with the faction in any way to threaten people to leave with gloves on is enough reason for any organisation to assume worst of it when the guy sitting there suddenly disappears and loses contact in every way for the whole day. Rest is just answering to your being loud to be right, you were a big problem in the faction and you were expected to be removed. If we're gonna speak about incompetence you never took up to the task or upheld the duties I have told you many times to make sure members are making money for the faction, security of the boathouse, actually acting as a Underboss rather than a foot soldier hanging around on his own until he has to be instructed by even how to breathe. You just worked for yourself I had to be on every night to do your work as the Boss of family so I dont think you have the say on competence. You pk'd Mike for "Shooting at Close Business Partners" which you mentioned to me that the person shoot him was an admin removing the light in Boathouse which you turned into Public Theater, then he sat down and watch the movie which smells failrp that he came as an admin and stayed there ontop of that shot Mike just because he was making him leave. And you are claiming metagame because some stuff have been discussed through dm's yet you recieve information from dm's and come to the place because of the "ooc information" as you claim even though you weren't getting on purpose and constantly delaying like as the meeting that was gonna be held because of your stunt with public movie night. And many more infractions can show that you discuss stuff through dm's and do them ingame which I dont think matches up with what you are claiming right here. You have stepped out of line many times, failed to do your work, created drama, compromised safety of the boathouse and members many many times, and primary suspect of a member who vanished without a trace even though he was praised by the whole faction and didnt have anything to be scared of at the moment. I will refrain from feeding you any longer as all the reasons are sufficient enough, too bad you couldnt crash out on your own and salty because of that but you are finally out of the game which you wanted to leave anyways. Nice reach goofy, anything youre claiming here doesnt change the fact that you gained knowledge ooc from an ic situation, goofy. It really is a shame you claim to run things when you have maybe an extra hour of playtime since you released the faction application three months ago i think that head got big af off the work of others why you had to be warned for missing the actual cheapest property tax on top on activity warning. Whats next to your claims? Edited March 1 by Togna Bologna New boot goofin Link to comment
handsome Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Togna Bologna said: why you had to be warned for missing the actual cheapest property tax on top on activity warning. Whats next to your claims? 3 hours ago, Togna Bologna said: I notice they keep bringing up everything besides the point of the ticket. Seems like a therapy sesh imo Link to comment
adam Posted Tuesday at 10:00 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:00 PM (edited) In most cases, this would be a pretty cut and clear case, as you were acting against the orders of the faction leader and deemed a liability due to your actions. If any of this information was received ICly (and proven to be IC), this would be instantly denied, and that's it. However, in this case, the only reason for your death, at least ICly, was due to Mike Fieri being killed, by who they assume to be you. Given the evidence provided, it looks like this information was provided to them over discord, which would be metagame. Had the don's order message had any other incident, this appeal would be denied due to there being feasible IC evidence to warrant your death. Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again. Edited Tuesday at 10:00 PM by adam 1 Link to comment
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