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women were seen and not heard back in the 80's and i do gotta say that i be hearing them an awful lot. valve pls fix. +1
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Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
who has a 1000TB hdd with recordings of literally everything theyve ever seen or done ever -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Two wrongs dont make a right on that one imo the standard should be raised on both sides of the equation and equally if one side is going to get buffed the other side needs something too. Like I had suggested, adding the ability for faction leadership to reign in who can access what would be huge. Faction leaders also already do have access to many tools needed to prevent the building of these cases like using middlemen (see Vinny Lucchese using Vincent Lucchese as the legal front man for his faction, that is exemplary work since Vincent doesn't do crimes but is still active) and keeping operational separation from himself and the lower rung doing crimes. Much qualms as I have with Lucchese as a faction, they are an example of good opsec. Of course there may be people in the factioon that break the opsec by bank sharing or using banks at all for storage but like individual catches are nowhere even remotely close enough to fully build a RICO case. These cases need you to do a long line of serious fuckups and not policing information (yapping to the lower people about sensitive shit). TL;DR there is SO MUCH you can do to prevent these crimes from working out. They only work out when you get really sloppy. If one lower level person is able to cause a significant enough level of damage to build this kind of case, you might need to look back at all the places leadership went wrong. Yeah I can imagine though that was a time in diverge I'm not so quick to want to return to. Keeping RICO exclusive to a very small group, having a very high bar as far as what you need to accomplish to make it work, and even maybe a requirement for UA approval before using the mechanisms could balance out those concerns. UA gets involved even in detective operations fairly often from what I've gathered and experienced. I wouldn't personally mind them being involved in when the lever is allowed to be pulled. Mind, even them granting the okay to go through with the execution does not automatically win the case either it still needs to go to court AND be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. With all the above in mind, I think we might be able to craft a new system with accountability and safety measures put in place to prevent abuse. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Like I've said in other posts I do agree that it needs to be balanced and not rapey. They'd a misconception that they're short and easy investigations, they're not. It's not based off of simple association it's being able to prove definitively that a group is both committing crimes and running a legal front to launder funds. Association is a part of that but it's not loose association it needs to be proven that everyone involved is actually a part of the criminal activity. It's further than "they all wear the same color bandanas and hang out at the same bar" but more "they all either deal drugs, arrange drug deals, or collect money from drug deals all together". -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
The affiliation isn't the crux of how it works. It's a game of follow the money. Pretty much if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt where the money is going and prove that it's dirty money then yeah. It's not a case of minge runs from cops 30 times and works at your store therefore life in prison. The bar is notoriously high to win it. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Generally being arrested is one's own fault like yeah UC's can be fatal tho but how much do you truly think that's happening I could understand that. I wasn't at it particularly long as Don but that shit did legitimately fucking suck. Lotta moving parts. More or less if you have yourself air gapped as far as the business and properties go legally it would be hard to attack them. Even more so if the on paper owner is a legit char kinda like how Lucchese does it putting their stuff on Vincent. That's an example of difficult to catch by RICO. A case like that might only go from middle down at best with how they're arranged and even then it would still be a LONG and tedious investigation. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
The difference is these factions take fresh players and dump em in the wild with little to no training or rp. That or the new hires go straight into the racket without permission which in itself is kinda goofy and alr leaves factions open to a world of shit. If you read thru everything, you'd have seen the part that explicitly prevents that abuse by simply restricting your rackets. And that goes doubly for the gun racket factions. Giving leadership the ability to police their shit is valuable. RICO doesn't kick in with one single person the investigations are long and complex. You'd need to identify everyone from the middle up definitively which is a challenge in itself. Then proving that they are the direct beneficiaries of crimes that are either arranged by them or on their behalf by others. You'd need to prove past, present, and future crimes. The bar is insanely high and even moreso when you factor in safeguards meant to prevent it's abuse. Even as it stands right now you can't snitch on a faction without UA halting things to check on shit. In the last week I've already seen a law get retconned because I was gonna blow a faction up with it which granted it was a little OP as it was written. Shit actively has UA involved in it as it is. The FBI bit wouldn't be mega cop with tanks and helicopters that shit would still be deferred to on ESU most likely in an ideal model. Pretty much this just lines up factions that don't take the time to teach their new and old people operational security. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Not even asking for an asshole stretcher law I'm literally asking for a watered down version that gives the police tools to handle fucked up factions. Alternatively if we could implement the law but without the feds that still works. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
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Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Bringing them back with balances to prevent abuse could be a nice middle ground imo -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
That's exactly what I'm asking for. I'm not tryna get ezpz faction nuke button I'm trying to get a deterrent to poor practices. Most factions should easily be able to avoid ever having to worry about it. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
The fun part of having fictional laws is that they can be tuned to not be powergame rape -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
Literally like if we're gonna shift things to make police more powerful we do need to have better measures to control those at the bottom to prevent several forms of abuse. Why should a freshie that joined 30 minutes ago be given access to a supplier that his management never introduced him to? If he wants to do drugs before his faction gave him the import connection, maybe he should go grind weed in the ghetto. -
Make Factions Fear God Again (FBI/RICO)
RevampedRebel replied to RevampedRebel's topic in Suggestions
I'm not even saying give it razor sharp teeth. But like if you constantly fuck around you should find out at some point with some level of finality imo.
