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Hello! So, first we understand that accidents happen but you must also understand that your actions have consequences. In this situation, your actions, attempting to kill your “friend” from the rooftops and then you hitting others is still RDM and truthfully attempted MRDM. You both admit to these shootings and were directly witnessed attempting to do it again. With that being said, given your past offenses and your complete disregard for the rules of our server, this ban will be upheld as is. I genuinely hope you come back to us with greater respect for our server and our community! Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Hello! Yes, I am the banning admin and the one that was primarily handling this situation. As you already quoted me you know my reasoning for the ban length. You chose to however leave out what we had already discussed about you being involved. Initiating the mugging or participating in the mugging is the same thing. They may have radio'ed, but you made the decision to join in on a serious RP scenario that you had zero context for. Another quote from that same ticket you left out is "Ignorance does not grant you immunity from your actions." So, between you being involved in a fail mugging, a more serious rule break with much more serious consequences, and your repeated pattern of not respecting the rules or RP environment of our server you were handed a one week ban to reflect on your actions. Not just the fail mug, but your repeated rule breaks in your first week active on the server after a ban almost two years ago. We have majority of our players go years without a single note. In the span of one week you have collected five notes and a ban. Also, yes, you would have received a lesser ban for RDM or minging. Those are much lesser offenses with much less impact on RP. Fail muggings potentially to PKs, which you now know very well. In this instance it has also lead to RP needing to be entirely voided so again much larger impact from your actions. As I told you in the ticket and will tell you now, I hope you take this time to understand our rules and reflect on the recent choices you have been making on the server.

Hello! So, you situation was odd. Generally it's not always LTARP a felony and you are PK'd, it's based off the severity of the felony. In this case, we couldn't confirm the severity because well you had your friend kill you and erase all evidence. We went through your logs meticulously and there is a clear separation between your lag DCs and your player DCs. All of your DCs for this timeframe in question were showing as your own doing. Because of that the LTARP is confirmed. On top of that, you admitted to not only metagaming but having your friend kill you while actively involved in a RP scenario you kept trying to dodge. This would result in you dying for not valuing your life in RP. Between the clear malicious DCs, the metagame, and the failure to value your own life the reviewing staff have decided your character will remain dead. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

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Hello! As stated by Youbear you were PK'd for starting a violent confrontation with police. You started this by shooting and killing the officer that was attempting to detain you. His partner then returns fire and kills you resulting in your PK. Also went ahead and ensured in logs that the officers had never shot you or any potential vehicle you were in before the clip begins to confirm that you are indeed the one that began the violent confrontation. In the future, I highly recommend you read and understand the rules (linked here) around what kills validate a PK on our server and wish you the best of luck in your future characters' lives! Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

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Hello! First, I understand not everyone has fully gone through and read the rules of our server. Ignorance does not give you immunity from them though. As shittor quoted, you can in fact be PK’d for LTARP in the case of more serious felonies. In your case, you were facing (minimum before any investigation) Dangerous Conduct with a Weapon and Attempted Murder. Both of those are pretty serious felonies so that box has been checked. On top of this, you were still offered to continue the RP after actively choosing to disconnect, reconnect, and start playing on another character. These actions show us clearly you knew exactly what you were doing. Even seeing this the PK’ing admin gave you an explanation of what continuing the RP would entail and you chose repeatedly to not partake in the RP at all. This is what lead to your PK. When informed of this you then tried to argue for just banning you for LTARP instead of a PK and that is not a behavior we want to support or precedent we want to have. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

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Hello! After reviewing with other staff we have come to a decision. While we do agree there was some level of conflict going on between you two, we don't view any of these as inherent rule breaks by you especially worthy of a ban such as this. For the RDM bait, we reviewed logs and found there may have been a slight case of mistaken identity but you did in fact have a valid reason to be upset with him. You were ran over by another player multiple times prior to your interaction with the ticket maker. Logs show then the ticket maker hit you with his car several times leading up to where his clip begins. For the LTAP, this has also been deemed to be false. The ticket that was initially made wasn't even against you. It was for the man in the other truck. We have no reason to believe you left maliciously following the time stamps of when the ticket was made, claimed, and you leaving. To top everything off, it would appear the ticket maker did not make the ticket till he attempted to resolve the issue himself in game. He pulled his gun from the ATM, attempted to execute the driver of the other truck, failed, and was killed for it. This is when he goes to type out multiple different ticket claims before settling on 'vehicle minge'. When situations are an IC conflict we want them to be handled IC, if they are OOC or rule breaks then we will step in as needed as staff. In this case, he attempted to use staff to get back at someone for an IC conflict that he was on the losing end of and we do not want to set that as a precedent way to handle things. Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. The ban will be lifted from your account shortly. If it was deemed an invalid ban, it will also be removed from your record.

Hi! PK'ing admin here. So, as you broke down already the officer came on to your property to detain you and question you. This is valid as the officer visibly watched you shoot the car. While detaining you, a friend of yours pulls out your weapon and aims it at the officer. This lead to a valid kill by the officer. This was a separate violent conflict from yours. On to your and why you were PK'd. While you may defend your friends from other citizens, criminal factions etc, that does not apply to officers the same way. Their conflict was over and then you chose to fire your weapon at the officer starting your own confront with him. You inevitably lost that gun fight and died leading to your PK.

Hello! We investigated this and you were PK due to someone being active to your faction since December. He killed you and thus you were PK'd. We will be reversing it this time due to how long ago it was. In the future, I highly suggest your faction either finishes the hit if they choose to set someone active while they're offline or make certain the person is no longer active. Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

Hello! So, while you may find it unfair you agree to a prompt on your screen when joining any criminal faction. This prompt warns you that they may kill you if they ever see fit and in this case, they warned you for your actions. You continued those said actions, even being caught in the middle of it as the PK'ing staff was setting you active. Due to your actions and choices, they practiced their right to kill you. I'm sorry for the loss of your character but I hope you take this opportunity to learn to follow orders from your high ranking leaders in your future endeavors on another character! Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hello there! After reviewing your ban with fellow staff, we have deemed it to be RDM. While you may have thought he was breaking NLR by simply returning to the area, that is not accurate. He did not attempt to engage in RP with you again or brought up your previous encounter. He was simply in the area to retrieve his friend and you engaged with him again. Even then, if he was breaking NLR, it is a common misconception that you can just shoot people breaking NLR. This is in reality not true. In the future, if you believe someone is breaking NLR please feel free to make a ticket in game with @ and it will be handled by staff. Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Hi, PKing admin here! So let us break this down piece by piece. First, as you claimed in the sit and now here, you think NLR was broken. When you told me this during the sit, I investigated who had called the police. The person who had called the police was not in the townhouse at any point with you. They were one of the many bystanders you had outside of the house at the beginning of your conflict where you RDMd two people. They called the police with the exact phrasing being "/911 break in at TH1" and was placed just outside of the house, in the street between the lucky lady and the shop on the corner. (4604.403809,9168.859375,139.273941) This person was not anyone in the house that you killed, and they were even originally calling for the person who was noted from prop surfing trying to get into your bathroom window. Once the person was in the bathroom window, they opened fire on cops who were trying to detain them for breaking in. Now this is what leads into the interaction that led to your PK. The officer who PK'd you was the officer shot at. Whether the guy in the bathroom was with you or not, this was never confirmed, it gave the officer every right to enter the house. When he did, you and your partners all opened fire on the officer starting the VCWP. You and one other eventually lost the gunfight. Your third killed the officer and escaped the scene. When reviewing the clip again, there is no clipping, there is very fluid tracking with the laser and tracers appear to be following the path they're supposed to be. I understand wanting to make every argue you can to save your character, but there is no proof of hacking to be found here. So, due the fact there was no foul play in the 911 call, others had every right to enter the property, and there is no signs of hacking, you were PK'd for starting a VCWP.