Byte

Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Hello, banning admin here! Let's go through this point by point as best we can with your sentence structure. 1) "PK hunting is subjective" - While this may be true, you gave us every reason to believe you are PK hunting. First, while in the sit with me you stated multiple times that your faction needs to remove minges if no one else will. When asked to clarify if removing was killing you reassured me it was. Don't know if you were just unaware of the rules or if it was a Freudian slip, but that is PK hunting. Second, your own clip that you submitted for a PK which can be found here. Please go to 37 seconds. What did you mean by "Perfect. He ran." OH! That's right! You were putting him under FearRP for the sole reason of you wanting him to run so you could PK him. Further reinforced by you taking the time to organize his inventory while in his pockets before only taking his radio. Finally, your own discord messages! Which can be found here. First, you gloat about another PK. Weird behavior for someone not hunting for PKs. When asked about it, you again admit you were just trying to PK them because you deemed them a minge. Finally, to add onto this circus, vigilantism is and has been against the rules for a very long time. You're criminals, act like one. If you have a problem with a minge follow proper escalation rules and send them to the hospital. If you can't be asked to do that, make a staff ticket. Staff will be the ones to actually deem if they're a problem. You are not staff. 2) "According to Byte "There are protections that citizens have so they cannot be mugged" and "You must mug people for profit" Which is completely wrong." - You're right! That is wrong, because it's not what I said. First, I said citizens have protections from criminal factions trying to just hunt them down and PK them. Second, you asked yourself is it okay to mug people for profits and I answered yes to your question. If you're going to twist words at best and lie at worst, at least make it make sense. Your own clips show you're not mugging for profit, so I'm curious why you even asked that but moving on to the protections. Yes, civilians have protections from criminal factions. Where does it say you can PK hunt them because they annoy you? Where does it say they can have faction leadership order their death for "general mingery."? 3) "There has been NO rule break, Byte is just being power-trippy because he doesn't like me for various reasons." - There's been multiple rule breaks. Your own actions, words, clips, and discord messages all showcase it. Also to me not liking you, who are you? I genuinely have no recollection of any prior encounters with you so I'm sorry you have the view. I hope you take this time to reflect on your actions and take it as an opportunity to grow into a contributing member of our community!

Hello! So, this situation is a little weird. While yes, you did die while under fearRP there is a clear discrepancy between what you saw and what the mugger saw. Because of this, you acted on the information granted to you so you thought you were safe. Due to this visual bug we will be granting you grace and resurrecting your character. While you are saved this time, in the future either make sure you have bullets or don't fight back! Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

Hello! So, as mentioned by Sexaphone already, when joining a criminal faction you are presented a prompt that warns you that you may be PK'd if they deem it necessary. While you may disagree with the reason orders were put on your head, they are valid. Your actions put the faction at risk so they chose to eliminate you to avoid any further risk. In the future, if you feel information is being handed out falsely please ask your faction leadership for clarification to avoid this situation again. Also, don't stab cops. Would have avoided another reason for them ordering your death. Good luck in the future on your next character! Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hello! So, this is an unfortunate event but it will not be affecting your character. After reviewing both of your clips and logs, it shows a story of clear RDM. Now, while if he had been made aware that your faction was after him he could start killing members out of retaliation. In this instance, he had no reason to believe that and you were not even involved in the hit. Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

So, while you may not believe it happened, and the clips can be provided by @yummekoo if she wishes, the fact is they do exist. The clips were shown to senior administration as well for this appeal. You had decided to be a minge and play with a dead body which is an IC crime. You also decided to carry around a ragdoll'ed officer and had to be told by several people to put them down. This was all witnessed and clipped by someone within your faction who reported it. Your HC also viewed these clips and had decided it was the time to get rid of you which is well within their power. In the future, I highly recommend you minimize your minge behavior if you wish to keep your characters alive! Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

Hello! So, first we understand that accidents happen but you must also understand that your actions have consequences. In this situation, your actions, attempting to kill your “friend” from the rooftops and then you hitting others is still RDM and truthfully attempted MRDM. You both admit to these shootings and were directly witnessed attempting to do it again. With that being said, given your past offenses and your complete disregard for the rules of our server, this ban will be upheld as is. I genuinely hope you come back to us with greater respect for our server and our community! Your ban appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this ban to be reasonable and/or justified. Ensure you have read our Server Rules.

Hello! Yes, I am the banning admin and the one that was primarily handling this situation. As you already quoted me you know my reasoning for the ban length. You chose to however leave out what we had already discussed about you being involved. Initiating the mugging or participating in the mugging is the same thing. They may have radio'ed, but you made the decision to join in on a serious RP scenario that you had zero context for. Another quote from that same ticket you left out is "Ignorance does not grant you immunity from your actions." So, between you being involved in a fail mugging, a more serious rule break with much more serious consequences, and your repeated pattern of not respecting the rules or RP environment of our server you were handed a one week ban to reflect on your actions. Not just the fail mug, but your repeated rule breaks in your first week active on the server after a ban almost two years ago. We have majority of our players go years without a single note. In the span of one week you have collected five notes and a ban. Also, yes, you would have received a lesser ban for RDM or minging. Those are much lesser offenses with much less impact on RP. Fail muggings potentially to PKs, which you now know very well. In this instance it has also lead to RP needing to be entirely voided so again much larger impact from your actions. As I told you in the ticket and will tell you now, I hope you take this time to understand our rules and reflect on the recent choices you have been making on the server.

Hello! So, you situation was odd. Generally it's not always LTARP a felony and you are PK'd, it's based off the severity of the felony. In this case, we couldn't confirm the severity because well you had your friend kill you and erase all evidence. We went through your logs meticulously and there is a clear separation between your lag DCs and your player DCs. All of your DCs for this timeframe in question were showing as your own doing. Because of that the LTARP is confirmed. On top of that, you admitted to not only metagaming but having your friend kill you while actively involved in a RP scenario you kept trying to dodge. This would result in you dying for not valuing your life in RP. Between the clear malicious DCs, the metagame, and the failure to value your own life the reviewing staff have decided your character will remain dead. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

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Hello! As stated by Youbear you were PK'd for starting a violent confrontation with police. You started this by shooting and killing the officer that was attempting to detain you. His partner then returns fire and kills you resulting in your PK. Also went ahead and ensured in logs that the officers had never shot you or any potential vehicle you were in before the clip begins to confirm that you are indeed the one that began the violent confrontation. In the future, I highly recommend you read and understand the rules (linked here) around what kills validate a PK on our server and wish you the best of luck in your future characters' lives! Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

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Hello! First, I understand not everyone has fully gone through and read the rules of our server. Ignorance does not give you immunity from them though. As shittor quoted, you can in fact be PK’d for LTARP in the case of more serious felonies. In your case, you were facing (minimum before any investigation) Dangerous Conduct with a Weapon and Attempted Murder. Both of those are pretty serious felonies so that box has been checked. On top of this, you were still offered to continue the RP after actively choosing to disconnect, reconnect, and start playing on another character. These actions show us clearly you knew exactly what you were doing. Even seeing this the PK’ing admin gave you an explanation of what continuing the RP would entail and you chose repeatedly to not partake in the RP at all. This is what lead to your PK. When informed of this you then tried to argue for just banning you for LTARP instead of a PK and that is not a behavior we want to support or precedent we want to have. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

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Hello! After reviewing with other staff we have come to a decision. While we do agree there was some level of conflict going on between you two, we don't view any of these as inherent rule breaks by you especially worthy of a ban such as this. For the RDM bait, we reviewed logs and found there may have been a slight case of mistaken identity but you did in fact have a valid reason to be upset with him. You were ran over by another player multiple times prior to your interaction with the ticket maker. Logs show then the ticket maker hit you with his car several times leading up to where his clip begins. For the LTAP, this has also been deemed to be false. The ticket that was initially made wasn't even against you. It was for the man in the other truck. We have no reason to believe you left maliciously following the time stamps of when the ticket was made, claimed, and you leaving. To top everything off, it would appear the ticket maker did not make the ticket till he attempted to resolve the issue himself in game. He pulled his gun from the ATM, attempted to execute the driver of the other truck, failed, and was killed for it. This is when he goes to type out multiple different ticket claims before settling on 'vehicle minge'. When situations are an IC conflict we want them to be handled IC, if they are OOC or rule breaks then we will step in as needed as staff. In this case, he attempted to use staff to get back at someone for an IC conflict that he was on the losing end of and we do not want to set that as a precedent way to handle things. Your ban appeal has been reviewed and accepted. The ban will be lifted from your account shortly. If it was deemed an invalid ban, it will also be removed from your record.