4Lights

This seems to be the result of a server bug. There is no record of anyone setting you active, or you being PK active and there is no log of your PK. Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

Hello! So watching the clip and from hearing the response from the banning admin. I believe your PK to be valid. On the video you posted, you run over cops repeatedly, initiating a violent confrontation with police and getting killed by police. If you believed the officers initial confrontation was 'stupid', he does not appear to cause any rule breaks, so as somespy said it's an in character issue, if that. You and your friend were jumping in and out of a car getting door kicked, being silly and to me not acting in a manner that put any value in your characters life. For that reason this will be denied. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.

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Hey! So, logs here suggest you were searched by an officer and not 1 minute later you disconnected from the server. Now this disconnect show as 'Disconnect by user.' Typically, but not always this means that you manual closed out of the server. It shows differently, if you timed out, lost steam connection, or if you suddenly crash etc. Given that, there is still a chance, that it was a crash. I can see you rejoined the server 10 minutes afterwards and were banned. If it was from not being able to rejoin the server, you seemingly did not contact the banning staff to explain the situation. The logs are not in your favour here, you did not attempt to contact any staff or the arresting officer in this time frame, through dms or a discord ticket, I would suggest doing so in future. This will be denied as there is solid evidence against you here and you have failed to provide any evidence of a crash. Further as I can only take it as it appears, you claim you 'crashed' in the back of a police car, and would have returned at the perfect time to avoid the unpleasant police rp.

The original southside had ways to traverse nearly all of the roofs, many of the new buildings and places that used to have a full roof tops traversal. Now don't, it would be cool to bring back rooftops to places like china town and the ontop of the bluelobster/bank and have more ways of accessing the ones that are there and added to places that you can't get access, (ontop of the casino, car dealership, bank) Could open up for more rp, police rp, crim rp, etc.

Can you provide any evidence that you were exempt from kickups in the first place? @Eviddy

Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted.

So, we can see you did infact pay kickups through logs. I have reviewed the messages you sent, a big thing however is, it is clear you missed kickups. Which does harm the faction/family you are in. You arrange through dms, to make a time. They accept the time, meet with you, you pay them, and then they order your death. Reviewing the PK guidelines "The person in question, has repeatedly done something to directly harm you, the family, or another member of the family" "Continued and repeated (despite warnings) poor behaviour, misconduct, violation of your family rules or even blatant disrespect of made men in your organization." While you are guilty of harm, you are not guilty of repeated harm and as no other reason was given besides failing to pay kickups, which you did. This PK appeal will be accepted on these grounds and you will be placed in the civ faction with any rp relating to your exit voided. EDIT: Or it would have been unpked, however you appear to have deleted the character making is unrecoverable.

Sorry this took so long, to point out a few things here. There IS an inherent risk to trying to escape in the water. Typically we'd like to see the officers bringing the guy to shore, and making a reasonable attempt at arresting the guy, so as a mechanism to PK the guy, this is not intended, however if you are at fault for drowning it can and typically will be a PK. There was some debate over this, you were tazed in water and sank, you then say essentially you're complying, then you were cuffed under water and died. Me and some others were under the impression that you had no ability to swim up. it appears you CAN swim up when cuffed at the bottom like that, however you need to be looking straight up while he drags you and sometimes that doesn't behave properly. Given that this was not known and there was some ambiguousness to the death, potentially the dragging itself causing the PK death by suffocation. The PKing staff had offered to restart the RP with the suspect in cuffs. When this was refused by the officer, the character was PKed. After a conversation about this, we'd have much rather have had the RP restarted given the uncertainty of who's fault this death was and because of the refusal by the officer and the pressure from said officer to the staff for the PK, it comes off as PK hungry. We have deemed this PK to be invalid on these basis, the fault could have been the officers and that RP could have easily continued. Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted. Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.

+1 would be funni and make a lot of people upset

Hello PKing staff here. I had the unfortunate job of PKing your character. I was given two clips and being you were offline at this time. I offline PKed your character. 1st Clip: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iO7o1yM2V70hNWqX2/d13375v6EXOT?invite=cr-MSxORjAsMTk2MzAwODIxLA - This clip shows the cop reacting to gun shots, seeing you run past a ragdoll/body. He attempted to get the bottom of this by asking in RP through text chat. You seemingly ignore this cop, so he chases you. 2nd Clip: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iO7p5pItO1uneZ2he?invite=cr-MSw1a2IsLEZPUl9ZT1U - This clip continues the previous one, it shows the cop chasing you and demanding you to stop in text chat, getting ignored again. He then in the middle of chasing you gets run over by a third party. You proceed to pull out your gun and start blasting, hitting the officer several times. He then pulls out a gun, where you say 'sorry, sorry, I didn't mean to do that' then you disconnect from the server. Unfortunately, as you were in a situation that was likely going to lead to your PK and you chose to disconnect, whilst PK active. I determined this to be a valid PK. " Killing or attacking an Officer after initiating a violent confrontation leaves you PK active from officers for about 15 minutes."

Hey there. Banning staff here. So I banned you for an incident that was reported via discord ticket. When I investigated you had blatantly tied someone up while they were using the clothing store NPC "https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iQlyG0OkYx7Ch3DiT?invite=cr-MSxNa0ssLEZPUl9ZT1U", when I investigated your notes and bans you had multiple relating to fail mugging. So I deemed it appropriate to ban you for 3 days. Your friends ban was issued by another staff at their discretion and may have been related to fewer notes or other circumstances. The PK was a separate incident, wherest you mugged someone and died in the attempt, which was also deemed a fail mugging by the pking staff. Which also took place after the incident that I banned you for. if you'd like to appeal that, you'll have to appeal via PK appeal. However that PK looked fairly cut and dry, dieing in the attempt.

1. 'Lights, flashing lights. She don't believe in shootin' stars' 2. Speakers phone could be funni. Also could be mingey. 3. So in a sense, if a cop is around, catches you and you have to risk a PK to kill him to continue your RP. You successfully roll the dice and kill him. You want the cop to be able to yell/possibly radio for backup? Presumably at the range you're speaking, the gunshots; even silenced would be enough to indicate to cops close enough. Making this redundant for how you suggested it and brokenly overpowered otherwise. As for tools. Spikes, could work but I feel like people would just continue to just drive with the popped tires In their bugatti's and ferraris and still get away from cops. Also I'd have concerns if it's done improperly could just end up blowing up the vehicles, or used to grief buildings. I could see something where it's possible to request one for an ongoing chase, but to just give them to every officer to use, I'd probably be less for ( i know you said cpl + ). On the other hand, you could always just make them stupidly expensive. 10-20k per strip or limit them to ESU flags. Pepperspray, if it incapacitates its essentially like the tazor, for just bluring their vision, sure but the range would need to be close. If it is close range, friendly fire needs to be taken into account, not to mention accidently pepperspraying yourself for running into an area you just peppersprayed. If they are running away and at a range, and you're not affected. Its essentially an overpowered flashbang and you'd quickly end up with broken PVP and people abusing (possibly through walls). Batons to break bones, would 1000% just be abused by every single probie and cadet around and probably become a problem very quickly, maybe just have the right click baton pause their movement for a second or split second longer if this is really problem. Cops are already exempt from being PKed for the most part, which already gives them the immunity to go into situation that wouldn't make realistic sense. So cops on any detainment are gonna break peoples legs 'so you can't get away' or 'just incase', sure IA whatever, but this seems like a problem to me. Aswell as, if a cop did break someone's leg, have they now started a violent altercation? Giving the crim a chance to shoot and die without pk repercussions? 'I'mma just run around until the cops break my legs, oh I can shoot now.' Criminals need a chance, it's already favored for cops and it should be favored for cop. But a delicate balance needs to be considered, at a point you might aswell just have the teleporting baton stick if there's literally no chance to get away, not saying your suggestions would cause such an imbalance, just that it needs to be carefully considered.

Thought this was already accepted?

Hello PKing staff here. First off, it had been about an hour and you were offline by the time I processed this PK. I was given a clip where you were being rammed to the side of the road for a traffic incident, for which I was told you refused to comply. You then kept saying it was "an accident", telling them to chill. They then pulled out cuffs and attempted cuff you. You pulled out a gun, attempted to fire but it clicked as you needed to reload. You then reloaded but by that time you were killed. https://medal.tv/?contentId=iF659qDZPkfpWv9k9&invite=cr-MSxmcGIsMjIyMDYyOTE3LA&spok=d1337p82Ii92 ( her mic is quiet here, but you can hear her. ) As soon as you pulled out the gun it is considered starting a violent confrontation with police, however if you believe some sort of fail-rp occurred, I'd by happy to take a look. However if you directly rammed their car, they seemingly had a valid reason to arrest you- regardless if some clipping occurred between the officer and another third party.