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Firstly, I’m not disputing that I became PK-active after shooting an officer. I’ve already acknowledged that and accepted responsibility for initiating the situation. The issue isn’t whether I was PK-active, it’s how the situation was handled afterward, and whether the use of lethal force still met the server’s PK standards at that point. The PK guidelines state that situations must occur “during” an active confrontation, not after it has clearly transitioned. Even by your own timeline of ~38 seconds, there was a clear separation between the initial shooting and the moment I was killed. During that time, I fled the scene, put distance between myself and you and other officers, and did not re-engage. That’s the key issue, this was no longer an active shootout, it had become a pursuit. Secondly, regarding your claim of witnesses. You being across the street doesn’t change the fact that from my perspective I believed I wasn’t being actively engaged by multiple officers at that moment. That statement wasn’t meant to mislead, it was explaining my reasoning in the moment, even if it was incorrect. It served to elaborate on my perspective of the situation, which is in the clip presented. Thirdly, on the distance/time point, whether it was “multiple blocks” or “down the street,” the important part is that there was a break in immediate engagement. I was no longer actively firing or presenting a weapon. The situation had shifted into me fleeing, which under both the PK guidelines and general RP standards, should be handled as a pursuit unless there is still an immediate threat. Fourthly, regarding SOP, you’re correct that SOP alone doesn’t override PK rules. However, it is still relevant because the PK guidelines themselves state that officers may not execute suspects and should attempt arrest when possible. SOP helps define what is considered reasonable force in that context. At the time I was shot, I was unarmed, fleeing, and not actively engaging, which raises the question of whether lethal force was still justified versus continuing the pursuit. Lastly, I’m not trying to “lie” or misrepresent anything to get my character back. I’m laying out how the situation looked from my perspective and why I believe it no longer met the criteria of an active, immediate threat at the time lethal force was used. At the end of the day, this comes down to whether staff view this as a continuous active confrontation?- or a situation where there was a clear disengagement?- followed by lethal force after the fact.
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Hello! As already stated by Winchester you were killed for initiating a VCWP with police and that will be standing but let's get into the whj and your arguments against it. First, you state that because one officer is breaking NLR then it is all invalidated which is simply not true. He did not have the other officers respond, he didn't initiate the first contact with you after returning to the area. You began that interaction with him when you decided to RDM an officer that was allowing you to leave the area. When you start another VCWP with multiple officers around you brought that on yourself. Stop trying to push that blame to others when you made that decision and got clapped for it. Second, you want to argue the NLR break which as already stated is minor in light of your actions. You RDM'd an officer after breaking character to distract him so you could kill him. You pulled a bitch move and got bitched for it by another officer not involved in the NLR situation. Your appeal has been reviewed and denied. We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified. You may not re-appeal this PK.
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Not a bad guy, spoken to him a few times but from seeing "Me when i lie" to responses isnt the best look, ESPECIALLY with seeing multiple claims of a risk of alcohol and bad decisions making it kinda just rings some red flags in my eyes as im typing this out you actively respond with "Nobody cares" to bullets which just adds ontop of what im saying after the "nobody cares XD" response i believe this solidifies the overall claims that people have said in this application if youre going to apply for staff try to commit to upholding yourself even towards negative responses, or just dont even reply at all
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Dante Barone's (Roronoa Zoro) Staff Application
Laq Law replied to shy's topic in Staff Applications
+Support Reasons - Good head on the shoulders, common sense is not so common anymore, but this guy knows what he's doing - Considerate, takes everyone's thoughts into consideration - Helpful fella, always takin time to go back and answer anyone's questions to the best of his abilities - Friendly fella, easy to communicate with - Activity, active as a mf, more active than O'Block at 10:30pm - Good RP, is willing to sit down and roleplay a whole dinner just because 1 person hasn't had anyone come into their restaurant all night - Problem solver, knows how to think ahead of solutions and into multiple outcomes so an issue is solved the right way - Connections, this guy is a connection maker, somewhat relates to Friendly fella but there ain't a lot of people who dislike this guy so if you're one of them you might need some self-reflection - Drippin, dude got drip tho +/-Support Reasons - If he becomes staff, he might not hangout with the homies as frequently -Support Reasons - Becoming staff doesn't help grind bricks for the Don Overall +Support. Good luck. -
-1 bro is literally on his alt steam account
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Manny Costa PK Appeal OOC Motivation/Metagame
Shauningt replied to kalata's topic in Character Appeals
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DAMN, that's tuff, my condolences to colombo
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KraZKane started following Matador Staff App
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Nothing against you personally, because overall, I like you. But who is to say you won’t get drunk as hell and abuse your staff capabilities? This has happened with you a few times before, not as staff but in role-play I’ve personally seen you do things out of the ordinary because you were fucked up drunk. Making irate/heated decisions due to being tipsy. Nothing against you overall, that is the only reason why my response is going to be a -1
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I’m lying but u legit put dead body parts in Colombos property then whitelisted the char into popov when we were having beef and u got banned for it…
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Me when I lie
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Me when I lie
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Great dude, Dante got me back into Diverge after I was gone for a 3 nearly 4 years, and I couldn't be happier that he has brought me back, This man will make a great staff member +1
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Micro joined the community
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Jewish Guy changed their profile photo
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If you want a drunk alcoholic staff member then take truemader -1
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Dude literally led his faction to fail escalate yesterday. -1
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this guy might not like me but hes actually a decent player +1
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Thats enough for my +1 I now think he'll do great as staff
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-1 legit a fucking drooler this nigga so retarded he makes a crim char don’t play it then when his shitty faction are having beef he hops in it and power games the whitelists the char into his faction. This nigga has always been a retard most day more retarded then me so please for the love of god never make this sped staff every #colombosownpopov #smokingthattrumaderpack
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You didn’t flee multiple blocks u were down the street the whole time. The time frame for the situation was 38 seconds not multiple minutes aswell. I’m sorry but the lies in question to try and get ur char back aren’t going to work. NYPD SOP has no control over the PK guidelines therefor it claim that the sop means I couldn’t do it is a IC issue not a pk appeal issue. The 3 other police cars in question where following a F1 car that crashed into u when u where fleeing after hospitalising a police officer which you have also left out of ur appeal I wish you luck in the future but that’s all I have to say
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Hello the officer who pked you I had no idea who you were until yesterday so I have no idea where you think you got the idea of targeting from. As it states in the pk guidelines if you kill a cop you are pk active to any member of the nypd for 15 mins the only reason I chose to open fire upon you was because you decided to shoot officer Ben Tudor for a pulling you over then instantly drove of who is also a completely different officer to the one you stated is targeting you that officer was William McFarland. You pulled a gun shot a cop infront of me I killed you sorry you lost ur char but you took the risk and it didn’t go well https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCpvvsul9IxbDI8d here is the pk clip
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+1 my goat, always friendly and willing to help
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DISCERNING EXCELLENCE joined the community
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Dante Barone's (Roronoa Zoro) Staff Application
TobyChadgumery replied to shy's topic in Staff Applications
Solid guy, good rp, helps those who need it whenever he can +1 p.s. Those two niggas who put minus 1 sound butthurt over him having better rizz -
+1 Can confirm, this guy is not only active but efficient. A well-loved member of the community deserving of Moderator.
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Name of Character: Eugene "The Law" Le'Cassier Character ID: 50773 SteamID: STEAM_1:0:138039649 Your Discord ID#: kyngholiday Date of PK: 03/31/26 Reason for PK: At the time of the incident, I believed I was being repeatedly targeted and followed by certain police officers, which led me to act irrationally. During a traffic stop for reckless driving, I was removed from my vehicle, which I interpreted as escalation toward arrest. In a lapse of judgment, I discharged my weapon at the officer, believing there were no additional witnesses or officers nearby. This assumption was incorrect, as there were people in the distance and present in the area. Why should you be unPK'd?: Yes, I did initiate a violent confrontation initially, so I understand being PK-active in that moment. However, the rules specifically emphasize that this applies “during” the confrontation, not after the situation has clearly ended. After the initial incident, I disengaged. I put my weapon away, fled multiple blocks in a vehicle, crashed, and then continued running on foot. At no point after that did I re-engage officers or present an immediate threat. At that stage, this was no longer an active shootout. It had turned into a pursuit. The PK guidelines themselves clarify that situations are only valid while they are ongoing, and not after the encounter has ended and transitioned into something else. Additionally, under NYPD SOP: Firearms are a last-resort option, only to be used when there is a reasonable belief of imminent danger Excessive force is defined as force used when it is no longer necessary or when the need for force has passed Officers are expected to use the minimum force necessary to control a situation At the time lethal force was used, I was: No longer actively engaging officers No longer holding or using a weapon Actively fleeing, not posing an immediate threat to life Because of that, the use of deadly force doesn’t seem to meet the SOP standard of an immediate threat, and instead falls closer to force being used after the necessity had already passed. Also, the noticeable time gap (20+ seconds) between the initial confrontation and the kill further shows this was not a split-second self-defense decision, but force applied after the situation had already de-escalated. As far as the PK guidelines, they repeatedly emphasize that actions must occur “during” an active situation. Once a suspect disengages and creates distance, that situation is no longer the same active confrontation. In my case, there was a clear break: (1) I fled multiple blocks, (2) crashed, and then chose to (3) continued on foot. This created a new scenario -> a pursuit. not a continuation of the original shootout. I also believe the way the situation was handled leans into powergaming rather than roleplay. After a clear break in the initial confrontation where I had already fled multiple blocks, Mason Peralta continued to use lethal force roughly 20+ seconds later instead of transitioning into a pursuit and arrest scenario. They had 3 police cars in the area, 2 officers actively on scene, and multiple additional units in the city, so there were clearly other alternatives available to handle the situation without resorting to lethal force. At that point, the situation realistically should have been played out through continued RP (chase, detainment, or surrender), rather than forcing a kill to secure a PK outcome. Using lethal force after the threat has ended, especially when other RP avenues are available, bypasses the intent of the rules and removes meaningful interaction in favor of a guaranteed result. Lastly, the PK rules explicitly state that officers may not execute suspects and should attempt arrest when possible. Given that I was fleeing and no longer engaging, this should have remained an arrest/pursuit situation rather than escalating to a PK. Overall, I understand the risk I took by initiating the situation, but based on how the events unfolded afterward, I don’t believe I met the criteria of an active, immediate threat at the time lethal force was used. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpeMafHHmQ2WTkLNZ?invite=cr-MSxVcEosMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=108 https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCv5BJVptEcoJh4j?invite=cr-MSwybUQsMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=62 https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpBizCuHMPe_cqqqc?invite=cr-MSw5dEksMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=29 https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mpCn8Q6fHdLKe2Gt-?invite=cr-MSw1RjEsMzIzMzAzMzQ&v=241 I have the "Clip #4" in a google drive pending inquiry.