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Surprised this wasn't already baked in, but thinking and looking back- it definitely doesn't exist (yet). Big +1 Like Davis said, just good common sense and fair.

Buddy, you can 100% pick up unconscious bodies. What are you even saying? The speed still decreases for the killer who carries a body. He wants the same thing to happen for unconscious people, who can still be dragged like they always have been able to. Why do so many of you fucking retards knee jerk and say shit without thinking it through?

+1 great idea ngl

How exactly am I supposed to DM somebody that I don't know, on the fly, to convey something that's OOC (such as a DIscord invite)? Or explain that "Pager" means "Discord" without others seeing or having it clog up the text that has people RPing? Am I seriously crazy here or are you just doing the famous snarky gaslight and overlooking something you're not taking into consideration? Genuinely asking.

They are already in the server, just not in any rackets. not these types of bombs but they have land mines, lunge mines, rocket launchers, molotovs, etc.

+1 common sense

This system does this when calculating things like bail, denying bail if you have too many charges. Adding this function as a means to somehow deter minges doesn't make sense since a minge will simply make a new character and repeat being arrested. I can add charges so if there's missing charges consult with PD HC or bingus/mecli and they can communicate with me to have charges added. I think having arbitrary restrictions to a character to add more and more charges sort of just discourages the existence of long term criminal characters so there's no real reason and the officer/state/judge can just manually look up a person's records and modify the charges based on that... doesn't need to be automatic and remove the RP

This has been done and should now be reflected on the form.

you're unaffiliated and im a gangster. fuck you nigga tell the courts you never said that shit or die? "why dont you bribe them?" gay take

I like the idea but feel like there needs to be a time limit put on it. Further, there should be escalations put in place before just going "talk and you die" where most real mobs would try to just bribe them away since collaboration is often more effective than fear especially when used in conjunction. Just a thought.

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after 4 years, with almost 3 days playtime I dont see any reason to assume that you *dont* know the rules, but 14 days is also really long. Reduced to 4.

This is a really informing and genuinely nice forum post to read, that brings evidence and examples of previous incidents and how the roleplaying experience can be improved, with this rule change as well it is balanced and wouldn't cause harm to the current state of play on the server. Prime example of how to make change in a positive way! TLDR: Massive +1 to this.

you can dm players to convey OOC shit. If you're not allowed to DM them something, you're definitely not allowed to use LOOC to say it.

Hello all, I've discovered kind of a loophole to the whole "Don't work with police, but making statements to cops is fine" pk rules. The current rule states: Which, on its face seems entirely fine. But since we're on the federal rules of evidence in the courts, it creates a stark, immediate issue. Originally, Hearsay was much more restricted. So, a cop hearing a victim say "Hey man that guys stealing my car" (this was a case against me i'm referencing here, guys already dead in an unrelated pk), the officers *can* include that in their affidavits to prove that the victim did have a crime committed against them. So, the current rule being that reporting a crime isnt enough; reporting the crime actually *is* enough to prosecute someone. Their statements can be considered testimony under two rules: FRE 803(1) FRE 803(2) These rules state that hearsay is acceptable and admissible in court if it is: (1) - Present Sense Impression: A statement describing or explaining an event or condition, made while or immediately after the declarant perceived it. (2) - Excited Utterance - A statement relating to a startling event or condition, made while the declarant was under the stress of excitement that it caused. So what does this mean for criminals? Someone yelling out "Officer this guy just killed someone" or "Officer, that guy stole my car" or "Officer he has a gun on him!" is ALL admissible in court. It's all usable. The person need not testify, that *is* usable by the officers' testimony. And the courts can, and always have had the capacity, to convict someone under a singular affidavit (which is debatable considering a previous precedent, but could still reasonably happen right now). My suggestion is very easy to understand. A new addition to the rule. A "Duty to contest". It works very simply. Joe Mecli, a civilian, witnesses someone shoot a guy. He yells out "Officer, that guy shot someone" when he sees a cop, who was not a witness to the actual crime. The officer, having heard the blast, arrests the guy on attempted murder charges or some other charges related (Discharge, Unlawful conduct, yadayada). Well now criminal guy Joe Gambino is in a dicey situation. Joe Gambino, is now allowed, by the rules, that if the testimony of the cop reflects what Joe Mecli said, he can locate Joe Mecli, and threaten him to "Contest". Appear in court and say "Nah that didnt happen". This is the most fair addition to the rule, reflecting the new rules of evidence, and how we deal with witness statements. Now that the DAs office is aware that they can do this shit, they're going to be doing it *a lot*. And there needs to be a balance. The technicality of the rules should be that you have to locate the person in game, Identify them somehow (tie them to the name), and threaten them that they have to get you an affidavit stating the *opposite* before discovery closes. This should be done with at least 24 hours BEFORE discovery closes, as to provide ample time. Then, if they refuse to testify, or they switch sides again on the stand and say its true and the guy is a criminal, the family of that criminal should be able to give orders on the Joe Mecli, the civilian, for snitching. Kind of a long one, but here's my change to the rule I would make: You cannot PK a civilian for simply witnessing or reporting a crime, it's natural for normal civilians to call the Police or report incidents, while you may attack them for this it is not considered a valid PK reason. You may only PK a Civilian if they are actively collaborating with a government agency to take you down, i.e. signing an affidavit or working directly with police beyond the initial report. If their statements to police are later used by police to establish that a crime was committed, you may locate, identify, and threaten the individual in order to write an affidavit contesting that they never made those statements. If they fail to write that affidavit before discovery closes, or refuse to testify thereafter, or testify and state the opposite (thereby further implicating you), you may PK that person.

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You just told me to DM somebody in game? What are you even saying? You're a Seasoned Administrator, for luck's sake.

Dm them -1

Come out ye black and tans

They would need to be exceptionally expensive, take time to plant, and need the possibility of defusal but I don't see why not

This could be a new way to kill people and a new way to pk someone for example you place a bomb under someones car and click a button boom it blows up and they die scarface style

+1 Needs to be added, current ooc blasts stuff that your saying like discord invites outside the walls

I don't want to have to use languages to say OOC shit privately near people. My character is not saying or thinking those things. I propose implementing an Out of Character Whisper so we can exchange sensitive information/reminders OOCly to people near us that others cannot overhear and abuse for metagame/abuse. Things like "pager"(Discord) invites are primarily what I'm thinking but there are other examples I can't drum up on the spot. Please consider, my friends. Thank you all for reading.

You lockpicked several rooms / doors in The Continental and the same company's apartment above their restaurant all within 5-10 minutes. This is considered mass raiding and I find it sketchy that you were the only one to make an appeal, not your friend who has notes from the past which tells me he's had several opportunities to read the rules and inform the people he's playing with what those rules are so he himself, as well as the people he plays with, don't get in trouble. I can't get on board with the "I'm the innocent one with no priors I shouldn't have been punished for breaking the same rules" narrative. Against a reversal but this isn't my call.

Your Character or Steam Name: quagmirefunnyman SteamID STEAM_0:0:558643456 Your Discord ID#: _petergrif6299 Reason for ban: I was banned for massed raiding. Length of ban: 14 days Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): I had no idea I was committing mass raiding and I am sorry. I really only went into 2 buildings but I only lockpicked in the one of them if I was aware that I wasn’t allowed to, I would have not done it. I will no longer mass raid I understand why I was banned sorry for the inconvenience. Why should you be unbanned? I will no longer break rules on this server now that I am aware and since I have extensively read the rules to keep this from happening again thank you for your consideration and your time.