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Thank you for your concerns, but I have not even been on tonight. I actually think the server would benefit from this.

+1 lwk kinda agree i mean clothes are like 500$ for like cheap clothes at clothes store so thats a easy thing to counteract

this guy 100% got mugged tonight

The Problem: Right now, players are initiating mugs while completely unclothed, leaving them in the default "White Shirt" state. Because our rules already state that actual fresh spawns cannot mug, seeing someone in a white shirt creates confusion. Players are abusing this by intentionally removing all of their clothing to: Bait & Confuse Victims: They trick people into thinking they are harmless new spawns who aren't allowed to mug, exploiting that false sense of security to pull off an easy robbery. Zero-Risk Criminality: They risk absolutely none of their actual clothing items or gear other than a gun if the mugging goes wrong and they get killed or caught. Honestly it's just bad rp, being white-shirt is like being naked and requires no effort. The Proposal: Make it an official rule that players must be actively wearing clothing to initiate a mugging. If a player is not wearing any clothing items (meaning they are in the default "White Shirt" state), they are prohibited from robbing other players. If a player uses restraints on another player, they cannot change or remove their clothing for the entire duration that the situation is active like it is already the case when they take damage. Other players who did participate in the mugging should not be allowed to leave the situation while being a white shirt until they reach a safe spot. Server Precedent: We already know this state causes issues because during the last Racket Reshuffling Event, players in white shirt were not permitted to participate. The staff team already recognized that the default white shirt state disrupts competitive fairness and clarity. We should simply extend that exact same logic to daily server life regarding muggings and hostile RP.

+1 for sure. Good luck Howie!!

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You didn’t make any demands of me. You turned away/pole down when I pulled my gun, just in case, and you made a command AFTER I had it pulled. Argue til you’re blue. I know the facts and that they were talking to Sonny and that I wasn’t involved. Only one dude on me wasn’t commanding me, 15-20 feet from everything. This PK is completely bogus. My failmug ticket was ignored, my video/perspective wasn’t taken into consideration, and my PK was issued before my ticket was closed. Unless an Admin asks for more information from me, which I doubt, I’ve stated my truths. I’ll wait for a response and pray for fairness.

You were also being mugged you idiot, you just werent the "main" target. We wanted nothing to do with you but you were being mugged for the sake of our security. I told you very clearly dont fucking move, you pulled your gun and kept moving. Therefore you died. Keep fuming.

So, you admit that I wasn’t the target and was just a witness. And the argument that you issued commands to me and never dropped your gun are outright lies. Grow up and learn to play in good faith rather than lying for a kill.

Nice pic of me bro thx, I would take a picture of u but you didn't look good at all

i never assulted them bro

+1 a lot of people see howie as a troll but hes honestly not as bad as you think

Sorry I didn't think you grabbed me I thought the game had just glitched. This is on me. Sorry for the issue. In the future I will pay better attention my bad. Thanks for the clarification!

Hello, I'm the admin who set you active and handled the PK. When you join a criminal faction, you receive this pop-up: You were killed due to orders placed against you for assaulting a buttoned man

Nothing is being LIED about. Relax yourself.

Guy on the guardrail watching. NPC watching. You’re on the sidewalk when you start to mug Sonny. I am across the street with another guy. One dude. He doesn’t say shit. Slips up so I’m able to pull my gun ON SAFETY which was my entire intention because I did not yet assess the situation. Even still, I’m an idle threat and wasn’t put under Fear RP nor given time to comply with any demands (demands that weren’t even given to me!) so it’s kind of funny how the issue is being so horribly conflated and details are being outright LIED about.

Admin that removed your pet flags here. You were in the Little Israel parking lot prop flying on a table saying "look at me guys." I grabbed you and told you to knock it off. Less than 2 minutes later, when you thought I wasn't there anymore, you did it again. That's why your pet flags got removed.

Yellow Zone does not nullify the fact that an NPC is watching. Not to mention ME, who was not yet under Fear RP. You may NOT mug in front of NPCs as they are considered witnesses in RP. You may not bypass this rule by attempting to 'pull them away under FearRP in front of an NPC. Do not target people using NPCs/ATMs/Stashes. This includes camping. AND Use this map as a general guide to understand where you can mug on the spot and where you can initiate a mug when no one is around to pull them into a secluded area / empty building. The goal of this image is to help reduce fail mugs. It is a good guideline to follow, all rules listed in this section will supersede the map and staff have the final say regarding what is or isn't fail mug in a sit. Yellow Zones do not supersede the presence of any witnesses or bystanders.

We we're well out of the NPC's vision, initiating the mug in the middle of the street.

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/n3wjdw5sAusYkKIgM?invite=cr-MSw2dHEsNTE1NzIzMjc1 Another perspective of the mugging. Showing I was not under Fear RP at the moment I was shot. Whether or not IT was legitimate originally was not the issue for me ICly. I had ONE guy wagging a gun in front of me and I waited for an opportunity to draw my gun on Safety, idle, to avoid a mug and assess the situation. If I am under Fear RP, I am going to fear for my life. The situation was chaotic so I waited for the guy in front of me to slip up and see if he was going to say anything. I found my opportunity to pull on Safety and he clearly decided to blow me away to send me to the hospital and get me out of the way of his mugging. Whether it was a legitimate mug, which I still don’t believe it was, I DEFINITELY was not part of it YET and somehow I was killed anyways. Rules should matter. Me and a guy 15-20 feet away having our own spat only vaguely related to that mugging. You can’t just shoot a guy who is witness to a mugging. You need to get him under Fear RP to mug us as a group or wait until there’s no witnesses.

Name of Character: Haim Shemtov Character ID: SteamID: STEAM_0:0:914335454 or 76561199788936636 ID 64 one Your Discord ID#: hamusil Date of PK: 06/07 or 05/07 in american time Reason for PK: i literally dont know there was a guy that told me to come talk to him for a second and then i was shot and pk'd Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: i think it was just blatantly unjustified there was no reasoning no nothing he literally just did it and it happened i seriously have no idea and im super confused if i had done something wrong im sorry but seriously i dont know whats going on If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: i have a screenshot of the guy and a video but i can only show it on screenshare on dis

You are not involved in this mugging what so ever.. but decided to still comment. The mugging happened in a yellow zone, learn the map. As for the gentleman who died, you can clearly hear me say dont fucking move in the clip, you pull out a weapon almost instantly after me saying that. You weren't our target, just wrong place wrong time man.

Guns on safety are not active threats.

I am not involved in this mugging what-so-ever, but I need to state that this entire mugging took place directly in front of an NPC, mugging rule number 5. "You may NOT mug in front of NPCs as they are considered witnesses in RP. You may not bypass this rule by attempting to 'pull them away under FearRP in front of an NPC. Do not target people using NPCs/ATMs/Stashes. This includes camping. In a similar vein you may not camp shipments to mug the owner." I do not understand at all how the PK'ing admin would approve this. Not only is this the first rule violated, Omerta and the party being mugged did not have each others F3 violating another rule that you cannot kill innocent bystanders. "You may not kill or attack people for stumbling onto your mugging or witnessing it. Mug in secluded locations to avoid being seen." This entire PK seems like a big mistake by the PK'ing admin, I hope Upper Administration genuinely investigates this and takes this appeal seriously.