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First things first, lets get this out of the way. Escalation is cool yippiee!!! and war is coming or whatever the fuck is happening on the server right now. Slight problem is that everyone was advised that during this time of conflict, you should be remaining on your main characters during any sort of escalation related things. Target mug or not, IXCrazy, known mass mugger and known for his mugging characters, was not on his main character, thats weird ey? But then if you look at the other people "involved" (only one other person was involved technically, the guy with the gun at the backdoor) are all on their main characters wowwww!!!! Weird.... Also a little weird how metagame accusations are being thrown by IXCrazy here, yet, the guy who baits the theft of the item, then running to the back room, has zero voice comms whatsoever. The only person who spoke in this entire situation is the guy who is on an alt character, mugging someone who is directly involved in the conflict going on the server right now. So, it is safe to say IXCrazy orchestrated this thing, and did it fully on his own volition. Crazy says "Can I try that on" (maybe a codeword he understood? idk), then black man runs up, steals it, sits in the back with the chance to run, so clearly a set up right duhhh, but he doesn't say a singular word, nor does the mugging party say a word to the black man. (This entire paragraph was created before reading all of the comments on the thread) Now that I read, mr Crazy here says he directly has orders to mug. Which is okay to do, but on an alternate character during a conflict.... Oh thank god though, they took IC photos to justify the loophole during a conflict (you're stupid). Back to some points, The bolded points are the main ones we wanna look at here, "Holding someone at gunpoint with the intention of mugging them", yet, intention cannot be defined by someone else. If I say I'm going to feed a homeless person, you won't know that I want to feed a homeless person until I actually do said action of feeding that homeless person. nextttttt, "Holding someone at gunpoint and ordering them to drop cash / items", this ones a little vague but generally giving someone orders along the lines of "Stop moving or ill kill you" has always been accepted as a mug from my ex-staff perspective and literally any other staff can agree, but the problem here is Crazy says "Hands up hands up hands up" while looking at the black man, then turns around and starts saying it to Danny (who the fuck are you mugging? cause its not clear, black man never pulls out a gun, and other gun-man only pulls out the gun on safety and doesn't say a word), by the time Danny is outside the backroom THEN Crazy says "get back here". Dannys POV right after Crazy says "drop it" not directed at anyone specifically (but we know he means his friend, the black guy who stole the item), gun looks to be on safety because you are SPRINTING LIKE AN IDIOT, Danny could not of known within 2 seconds that he was being mugged (by a gun on safety (Danny's POV)), or if crazy was mugging the black man for stealing the item. TLDR: Crazy is a known mass mugger and known for his mugging characters He says in this thread, he was given orders to mug He was on an alternative character, while completing these orders to mug ^^ Crazy is sprinting, not giving Charon a chance to understand whats happening (Is he mugging charon, or the guy who just stole his suit??) Didn't even remotely bother closing the door or getting Danny to a more secluded area (No intent to mug, purely PK-hunting) (With other factors obviously, how fast he shot, the set-up plan is made for pking not mugging, why Crazy is sprinting to potentially hide his 'pointed gun' animation, etc....) Crazy is the only actual mugger here (Other gun was on safety the entire time, and no commands given) Black man is 100% metagaming considering not a singular word was said (no proof tho, so don't act on this) I know I'm not staff anymore but here are my recommendations, PK another one of Crazy's mugging characters (he's directly involved with the conflict, yet he's completing mugging orders on an alt character lol!), un PK Charon, Re-enforce the whole "you must be on your main character during this conflict" ruling. Tell Crazy to stop fucking sprinting like a spastic during mugging because no one can see if you're pointing a gun at them or if its on safety.... PKs are not always clear cut and dry, there's a lot of factors and not every single one of them follows the rules, the only blatantly clear ones are VCWP (did you or did you not hit a cop), during this time of conflict and the large list of things that Crazy is doing wrong in this mug aren't that obvious, but they do still exist, and that's why we're all here today on this thread. Whole lotta yapping from me, but during the time of conflict, and this mug being "ordered", then executed by an alternative character, this should be reverted. There are proper channels to PK other factions high commands or whoever you want to, and this, this is not it, this is a "I joined the server 5 minutes ago and want to mug to make easy money" method. Crazy has been playing for a while now and knows better.

pk cleanup****

yeah this is like 30 seconds after your pk so i was fucking with you but i assumed you were switching to your jap char to unlock the doors so that people could mug us BECAUSE THEY WERE HANGING OUT IN YOUR GHETTO ROOM ON YOUR ALT WHEN I WENT TO GHETTO same people but it doesnt change the fact that the main reason for your pk was gambling taxes

https://divergenet.works/topic/704-pk-appeal-hanzo-zenosha/#comment-3567 So you admit it was a targeted mug you had no intent of robbing me you had already taken the clothing you just had the literal hope that id die which is the literal definition of "PK baiting" you knew beforehand i had nothing of value Nubsniping logged the pk, no escalation ticket was created beforehand

okay +1

The people who cleaned up the body where all in the same faction as us same whitelist and everything and i was one of them you can check logs i tried picking up the casings. but Please dont comment on topics you are not apart of. Clarification I was at the mugging I volunteered myself to pick up the casings and they where crim chars.

Please don’t comment on any topics your not involved in, thanks!

He was deafened in VC someone just joined his channel

the people who ended up cleaning the crime scene were both Underground Association members as they turned the body of the guy you killed into a gif. If UA is gonna investigate any meta gaming cops I dont think it'll be on our side. Edit after the fact: I was wrong turned out it was commission people just assumed cause of the pictures

I'm also going to say this THE second you Died all game audio cuts out and you can hear a discord Ping you obviously Alt Tabbed the second you died

Hello. I was apart of the mugging that caused your PK. may i add through seconds 30 to 33 you can hear you joining a discord call i find it strange that me being tasked with cleaning up the scene and the casings is troubled by two cops. Two cops that seem to have characters inside your faction may i also add they arrived before the body spawned Both trey reed and Isiah Borgen have altoviti Characters and they constantly where running in and out of the clothing store. Im gonna dummer this down You get killed at clothing store two cops in your faction show up after you join a discord VC that just sounds like blatant Metagaming. You screwed up going in the back room you screwed up not compiling you Severely screwed up telling ur friends in a discord VC. This is a message to UA in this Comment Please check the Logs of when these two cops Changed to there characters. Right before the mugging none of them where on there chars at all.. this image proves this

Lowkey silly Pizzle had no corralation towards this mug, We was given the order to mug you for the reason "Coming round to the deli, making fun of jews, mingeing on our property, not leaving when being told to leave and being a bitch" I would also like to add that this was a valid mug. There weren't any NPCs in the line of sight when I started putting you under Fear RP This also had nothing to do with the Escalation Between the alliances. And what I find funny is how you join a Discord call during your clip.

On a more serious note, you weren’t mugged due to the escalation between the two alliances. You were mugged due to all the shit talking you do and even coming into businesses on your DANNY COSTAVA character and generally just minging around, multiple IC photos of you were taken. Also, the mug was approved by a member of upper administration.

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too many +1's -1

Long Live Danny Costava, we will raise hell on SOS!!!

BLOOODY FACTS!!!!!!!

Name of Character: Danny Costava SteamID: STEAM_0:1:63855153 Your Discord ID#: Medinator Date of PK: 4/7/25 Reason for PK: Mugging Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: It was a targeted/baited mugging as admitted in general chat and there isn't an escalation level set where targeting mugging is allowed. they only mugged me because of my position in altoviti and as per guidelines this cannot occur without level 3 escalation (the guy leading/initiated the mug (taking out his gun and calling me to stop moving) wasn't even a main character & mugged me when he just got unbanned, as you can see in the clip there's a whole squad of people waiting in the back alley once i enter the backroom, the same person doing all of this has a huge reputation of mass mugging, metagaming and having consistent incidents like this. If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/k2GbBKohltQyyUsQQ?invite=cr-MSxNb3osMTA4NDA5NjAw (edited) < admission of it being ordered/targeted

chat he dont remember me

I have to shout-out Büllets such a professional and always unbiased.

+1 The amount of racket abuse I've seen is insane jmz has a fire idea which I also +1

-1 Just no leave it be...

JGN dropped to 1$ today and I wet myself...